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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Pioneer | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Drowned Catacomb
Land
Drowned Catacomb enters the battlefield tapped unless you control an Island or a Swamp.
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Last_Laugh on
Wilhelt and Sheoldred unite!
3 weeks ago
Arcane Signet, Dimir Signet, and Talisman of Dominance over Mind Stone, Sky Diamond, and whatever.
Plumb the Forbidden over Read the Bones. Instant speed makes this card.
Feed the Swarm is your only answer to enchantments in black.
Exotic Orchard, Underground River, Drowned Catacomb, Darkwater Catacombs, Morphic Pool, Tainted Isle, and Sunken Ruins are all pretty budget friendly.
fluffyeel on
Help make deck good
2 months ago
Unfortunately, to up the power level, some of the things I will recommend might be pricey (cost-wise), but I'm already seeing some places to improve.
- Entomb and Buried Alive are good options to get your things into your graveyard that you can later reanimate with Scarab God. Alternately, Filth and Wonder are good things to put into the grave that give you added bonuses. (If you go the Filth route, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is super-valuable.)
- For mana rocks, Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, and Chromatic Lantern are all very handy and budget-friendly. If you have them, of course there's also Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, and Chrome Mox, but don't just get them for this deck. (I happen to have opened them, so they move around between decks a lot.)
- The ultimate zombie enabler, to me, is Field of the Dead. You would need to likely swap some basics for snow-covered basics to make it work more, but the condition (7 lands with different names) is incredibly easy to meet. You can also go the route of some fetching (Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds, Fabled Passage, Polluted Delta, Prismatic Vista...). Watery Grave is also highly advised, along with Contaminated Aquifer, Ice Tunnel, Underground River, and Drowned Catacomb. Port of Karfell might also be worth considering.
- The best mill payoff from your opponents is Rise of the Dark Realms. Alternately, Reanimate, Animate Dead, and Extract from Darkness are great for bonus reanimation. Junji, the Midnight Sky is another possible option. Desertion
and Aethersnatch are also good to take your opponents' things before they knew what hit them. - More tutoring. Expedition Map will help for lands; Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Diabolic Intent are good in general; Lim-Dul's Vault is, I find, underappreciated and very handy. Fact or Fiction is also handy to get through your deck and get fun things into the graveyard (or make your opponents wonder what's happening).
- The Meathook Massacre, Damnation, and Cyclonic Rift are extremely handy for removal. The first is also a bonus payoff if your zombies die in the process! Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is also super-useful when it comes to removal, turning your zombies into both extra cards and weakening your opponents' creatures.
- High-cost things: Force of Will, Force of Negation, Mana Drain, and Commandeer are useful for control and making sure things don't stick and Memory Jar for filling up graveyards.
nuperokaso on
Ninjas and Rogues
3 months ago
- 33 lands is too low and will force too many mulligans. Try playing 35 lands. To prevent being mana flooded with these extra lands, add lands that have some activated ability that can be used later in the game. I suggest adding Creeping Tar Pit, Access Tunnel.
- You have too few dual lands fixing your colors. You'll likely end up missing one of the colors. Here's a list of dual lands to consider: Choked Estuary, Darkwater Catacombs, River of Tears, Darkslick Shores, Shipwreck Marsh, Drowned Catacomb, Sunken Ruins, Temple of Deceit.
- Since you are an aggro deck, you need to play untapped lands. Remove The Dross Pits. BTW, you have it listed twice, which is obviously a mistake.
Dead_Blue_ on
This zombie tribal deck needs help
10 months ago
Drowned Catacomb or Darkslick Shores over Bad River you really don’t want lands that come into play tapped
Necramus on
Queza, the Queefer
1 year ago
Okay. So, I think you should really lean into the control/combo shell. This deck could use combos like Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood, with some added redundancy in the forms of Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose and Marauding Blight-Priest, or Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion to close out the game. In order to accomplish this, I think you should cut a ton of the creatures and really lean into board wipes, control spells, and resource denial.
Things like:
You could also do cute stuff like Phyrexian Unlife + Solemnity, giving yourself time to wipe the board again or go for the win with Peer into the Abyss. You should also consider taking a look at your mana base.
I'd suggest going for some fetches, checks, and shocks like:
You also have way too many plains right now. Even before you get the lands I just named, you should cut 6 Plains for 4 Swamp and 2 Island.
I know I've given you a lot of suggestions. I think if you tried putting a list together with all the cards I named, plus some of the bangers from your current list and you'd have a badass deck! Don't worry about trying to do all that right now, though. See which look most appealing/are in your price range and add those first. A lot of these should be long term goals!
Don't tell Rett I gave you so many suggestions XD
-Blake
legendofa on Self Mill deck mana help
1 year ago
Welcome to the club, wschlobohm!
The win conditions here are Laboratory Maniac and Spider Spawning, is that correct? If so, you're going to want more than one of each. I recommend 3-4 of each.
As Balaam__ says, there are a few cards here that aren't in many self-mill decks, and some of them are pushing your average mana value up. Craterhoof Behemoth, Rune-Scarred Demon, and Resolute Archangel in particular are probably not going to help that much. This deck has almost no way to generate mana quickly, so those cards are going to be sitting in your hand for a long time before seeing use. Cutting them and replacing them with less mana-hungry cards will be a strong first step.
Archaeomancer isn't really living up to its potential here, with a total of five instants and sorceries. It can come out and be saved for a more spell-centric deck.
Third thought, you have only two white cards in here, and I already suggested cutting one of them. If you take out Planar Cleansing as well, that should tighten up your mana immensely.
This point will require a higher budget, but take a look at multicolor lands that enter untapped. Anything from Llanowar Wastes to Drowned Catacomb to Breeding Pool will accelerate your deck, since you can use lands the turn they're played.
My final thought for the moment is to take a close look at every card and ask, Does it put cards in my graveyard? Does it take advantage of cards in my graveyard? Does it directly win me the game? If the answer to all of these for any card is no, then that card can probably be taken out and replaced with a card that does advance your game plan.
Look to get four copies of the cards you want to use most. This will increase your odds of drawing those cards.
If you want to look into more competitive decks along these lines, check out Dredge and Reanimator decks. Both of these strategies are based around filling your graveyard as quickly as possible and using it as a new resource. Alternatively, Laboratory Maniac and its friends Thassa's Oracle and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries are the centerpiece of a common instant-win Commander strategy, if you prefer that angle
And above all, have fun!
RNR_Gaming on New secret lair Alert!
1 year ago
Anyways with that whole kickstarter thing going on I noticed that the professor hasn't made a video so in case anyone was wondering
Some regular guys non-foil/foil
Void Winnower - 16.07/20.46
Vengevine - 10.71/12.95
Collector Ouphe - 5.63/33.07
Goblin Settler - 48.71/N/a
Non foil: 81.12 Foil: 115.19
Foil: B / non-foil: C+
There's a good bit of value with this secret lair. Goblin settlers getting its' first foil printing is definitely noteworthy. Also, if you're into the Adventure Time art style you'll like be picking this up anyways.
Showcase: Streets of New Capenna
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice - 30.77/35.53
Breya, Etherium Shaper - 7.98/9.84
Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder - N/A/8.84
Non-foil: 47.59 foil: 54.21
Non-foil - D foil: C-
This grade pains me because I REALLY think the art on these is beautiful and they'll likely include a Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis in the same style as a bonus card but putting personal preferance and speculation aside the value just is not here.
Special Guest: Matt Jukes Foil Edition
Glacial Fortress - 3.71/11.25
Drowned Catacomb - 7.28/17.46
Dragonskull Summit - 3.79/6.96
Rootbound Crag - 3.81/6.55
Sunpetal Grove - 3.89/5.96
Non-foil: 22.48 foil: 48.18
Non-foil - F foil - D-
The value in these really speaks for itself.
Artist Series: Magali Villeneuve
Mother of Runes - 4.91/Varies
Death's Shadow - 6.12/10.19
Elvish Mystic - .45/9.97
Forest - N/A
Non-foil - 11.48 Foil: N/A
Non-foil - F Foil - D-
The biggest thing out of this lair is the foil Mother of Runes the prices fluctuates so much with the older foils it's hard to set an exact price to obtain a foil one; if we look at the previous secret lairs those versions of Mother of Runes are sitting at about 6-10 a piece.
Artist Series: Sidharth Chaturvedi
Concordant Crossroads - 46.87/N/A
Nomad Outpost - 1.06/5.74
Ghost Quarter - 1.12/16.90
Island - N/A
Non-foil: 49.05 foil: 69.51
Non-foil: D- foil: C
Essentially this lair is being carried by the fact that Concordant Crossroads only has 1 printing and has never had a foil printing. If you need one or would like to get a foil one knows your chance but outside of that its just some bulky cards with nice art.
Artist Series: Wayne Reynolds
Sram, Senior Edificer - .25/6.09
Torbran, Thane of Red Fell - .95/1.89
Depala, Pilot Exemplar - .23/1.65
Balthor the Defiled - 10.95/59.61
Non-foil: 12.38 Foil: 69.24
Non-foil - F Foil - C
This lair is also being carried by 1 card that has only 1 printing the rest is bulk.
Finally! Left-Handed Magic Cards
Sisay, Weatherlight Captain - .98/6.02
Empress Galina - 18.31/206.82
Geralf's Messenger - 9.89/34.48
Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh - .26/.41
Garruk, Caller of Beasts - 8.20/23.41
Non-foil: 37.64 foil; 271.14
Non-foil - C Foil: A
While Empress Galina is definitely the chase card out of this; it still has value in the other slots too outside of Roger - but even Roger is still highly playable.
Anyways, after doing all the math and putting this all together I appreciate the professor doing this and compiling it a video format. Also, which secret lairs if any are you planning to get?
azja on
Yuriko (Optimized) Primer
1 year ago
Hey @Spirits, sorry for taking so long to get back to you! You asked such detailed questions, so I wanted to make sure I had time to write out detailed answers :D
Karn's Temporal Sundering vs Capture of Jingzhou:
Like you said, just a budget consideration. Yuriko is my pet deck so I don’t use any proxies, but I highly encourage it for others! While the bounce effect of Karn's Temporal Sundering is nice, I’m thinking of replacing it with Time Warp or just cutting it altogether for Treasure Cruise.
Enablers:
Since I don’t have any combos, I’m all in on the Yuriko damage plan. So having an enabler at all times is much more crucial for me, which is why I play 15 of them. Comparing my list to others, it seems 15 is on the higher end, so you could probably get away with cutting a couple. You’re correct about Tormented Soul, it can’t be pitched to Force of Will, as well as the mana base being more blue-heavy. As for the flying enablers, they’re included for redundancy (since there aren’t 15 unblockable 1-drops). It’s pretty rare for every opponent to have a flying/reach blocker, and we don’t really care who we attack, so flying does a pretty good impression of unblockable. Plus, many of them have relevant abilities, especially Faerie Seer’s scry 2 and Wingcrafter which can give Yuriko flying. If you’re mainly trying to win with combo, I wouldn’t play any of the 2 mana enablers except Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive. But don’t underestimate Augury Owl in the “winning with big spells” shell!
I haven’t tried him out yet, so I’m also unsure whether he makes the cut. Normally I wouldn’t consider playing a planeswalker, since we’re not very good at blocking to keep them around for longer than one turn. But with Kaito, we’re guaranteed 2 activations since he phases out eot, so I think he’s worth testing out for sure.
Win-Cons:
I think the wincons you described are all totally viable. Most of the cEDH Yuriko lists win with Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact since it’s only 2 cards and 3-4 mana (and tough to interact with outside of counterspells). Doomsday is significantly weaker than fish-consul, but its also a reasonable win-con. It’s convenient that cards that would go in the doomsday pile such as Gitaxian Probe and Street Wraith are already good cards for the deck anyway. When I first built this deck, I didn’t include doomsday for power level considerations. Now, I doubt doomsday would be too powerful for my playgroup to handle, but I decided to leave it out since I prefer to win with Yuriko’s ability.
Scheming symmetry is pretty much my budget replacement for Imperial Seal until we get a reprint. It’s true that you can do some cute plays with Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion or Fallen Shinobi. But most of the time, I save it until someone is below 16 life, choose them to tutor with me, put Draco on top of my library, and eliminate them before they can use the card they grabbed.
I’m a big fan of Mutavault since it allows me to rebuild a turn earlier after a boardwipe, or just to have an extra ninja that usually goes unnoticed by your opponents. Unfortunately, colourless lands are really, really awkward in this deck, so I wouldn’t play more than 1 or 2 at the most.
Drowned Catacomb, etc.
Since I’m currently playing 10 basics, I usually don’t have any problems with Drowned Catacomb and Sunken Hollow entering tapped. As for Mystic Sanctuary, it definitely sucks when you draw it and have to play it as a tapped island. But, imo it makes up for it in the late game when you can grab it with a fetch land and put an expensive spell on top of your library in response to a Yuriko trigger. If you’re including Tainted Pact, or just playing less basics in general, I would definitely cut those lands for City of Brass or River of Tears, like you mentioned.
Colourless Mana
I touched on this a bit in the Mutavault discussion, but you definitely want to stay away from colourless lands as much as possible. Although Ancient Tomb and Gemstone Caverns are really powerful lands in a vacuum, the early mana they provide isn’t worth it imo. I definitely agree with you that Reliquary Tower is a trap. I wouldn’t play it in very many decks in general, especially not in Yuriko. As for Glacial Chasm and Maze of Ith, they aren’t played enough in my playgroup for me to need an answer for them. But if they did become more popular, my plan would likely be to cut Mutavault and include Strip Mine/Wasteland instead.
I hope everything I explained made sense and was helpful to ya! Don’t hesitate to ask me more questions!
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