Copperline Gorge

Copperline Gorge

Land

Copperline Gorge enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or fewer other lands.

Tap: Add {{R}} or {{G}} to your mana pool.

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Copperline Gorge Discussion

hungry000 on $15 Dredge

4 weeks ago

TheBubbaEA Thanks!

In general, I would reference a non-budget Dredge list (from MTGgoldfish or another website like it) when you make upgrades, since those lists contain all the cards you'll want to get in the exact configurations you'll need. However, the Dredge deck in particular requires large investments alongside certain cards (like sets of fetchlands with Life from the Loam) in order to make them work, which can be difficult to figure out on your own.

I'd recommend making smaller upgrades first; the $25 Mardu version I listed above (Dredge ($25)) adds some white tri-lands to the mana base for Thrilling Discovery, Smiting Helix, and sideboard cards. Any other upgrades you'll want to make are going to be really big investments, so it'll be good to have a solid but fairly inexpensive base to play with while you work towards the more expensive stuff.

Now, it's important to consider which particular variant of Dredge you want to build before you start investing: some decks splash white for Thrilling Discovery and Prismatic Ending, some go for the traditional Jund list, others are straight Mardu. As of right now the most successful Dredge decks are cutting white for 1 mana enablers like Merchant of the Vale and Burning Inquiry for more speed (since graveyard hate is very popular atm). I personally like the white splash, but you do you.

Once you've figured that out, the most important upgrades you'll need to make are to the mana base. Competitive Dredge is heavily reliant on land synergies with Bloodghast, Life from the Loam, and by association Conflagrate (which is usually casted from the graveyard for big X values after filling your hand with lands via Loam). Fetchlands are by far the most important cards to have if you want to go this route. Having a nice suite of lands will also help with casting costs, which is always an issue with budget mana bases.

Other than that, the only upgrade you can really make until you have the lands is adding 3 Ox of Agonas for 1 Haunted Dead and 2 Smiting Helix; it's not too expensive to do this, but it also happens to be better with fetchlands, as they help pay for Ox's escape cost.

For lands, you'll want 8 R/X fetches, 4-5 R/X Dual lands, a couple fastlands, 3ish five-color lands, and one or two basics (~19 lands total). My recommendation for a 4c (RBgw) list:

Other Upgrades:

Hope this helps!

coe98 on RG Thrasta Zoo

3 months ago

A list that i'm trying out right now is a bit different. I have 2 Chatterstorm 18 lands (no Copperline Gorge or Bloodstained Mire and 3 forest 1 mountain 2 Prismatic Vista ) plus 1 Dryad Arbor . I'm also trying it out with 4 Arbor Elf and Utopia Sprawl w/o Goblin Guide Memnite or Mishra's Bauble I have 3 Atarka's Command instead. Lmk how this plays out i'm gonna be doing some testing on it later this week

Forkbeard on Atarka, World Render: Double Dragon

8 months ago

Going to try the following additions + cuts:

  • In: Thought Vessel ; Out: Skyshroud Claim - SC is decent ramp, but this swap makes sense due to minimal forest targets + a general effort to reduce the average CMC. The no max hand size redundancy is just gravy.
  • In: Bonders' Enclave + Castle Garenbrig ; Out: Copperline Gorge + Detection Tower - The probability of Copperline being an ETB tapped land is too great & I've still got Arcane Lighthouse in here if need be. Making room for these 2 superior utility lands feels like a good trade.
  • In: Bala Ged Recovery ; Out: Forest - A bit controversial as this takes my land count down to 35, but I've got a woeful lack of recursion in here and I suspect this will come in handy more often than not. Worst case, I have to use it as an ETB tapped Forest. Best case, a mega threat gets a 2nd shot at life.
  • In: Glorybringer ; Out: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - A tough cut to make as good 'ol KJ has been in here since day 1, but as pointed out, he's a big target and not pivotal the game plan. Glorybringer joins the dragon crew and the additional removal option is a welcomed bonus.
  • In: Harmonize + Rishkar's Expertise ; Out: Feldon of the Third Path + Surge of Strength - A few have pointed out the lack of card draw in here and it's a compeltely valid point. These 2 additional options should add value, even if they are a little on the casting cost steep side. Feldon was a cute idea as a recursion engine, but he's also fragile, conditional and Bala Ged Recovery is going to be preferable in most cases anyway. Surge is a sneaky combat trick, but the discard downside was sometimes annoying.

  • Those are my trades for now. I'll need to give it a few plays to see how it feels, but I'm hopeful these card swap choices are fun ones and help to smooth things out a little.

    HalbrechtHalbrecht on Werewolves Not Swearwolves

    10 months ago

    I haven't run this through any playtests, but at first glance, it seems to have a decent curve, some interaction / protection, and several anthem effects. Can you give more of an idea of what makes it feel like something's missing? Are you running into snags while playtesting?

    Otherwise, just a couple general comments: I feel like Lambholt Elder  Flip and Mondronen Shaman  Flip are a bit weak. I'd replace them with a stronger creature (see below). And while I like the transformed side of Kruin Outlaw  Flip giving menace to all your dudes, that double red worries me. Have you had trouble casting it on T3? I also don't know if I'm a fan of Instigator Gang  Flip. Maybe I'd feel differently if I playtested it, but +1 to attackers seems low impact for 4 CMC. Sure, you get +3 at some point, but I'd evaluate it more on its front face.

    If you were to cut any of those (potentially up to 9), here's some possible additions:

    • As a 4 CMC replacement for Instigator Gang, Nightpack Ambusher is both an offensive and defensive buff, and its flash speed allows it to be a combat trick as well as allowing you to better control which turn spells are played on for transform. Finally, it can generate you some bodies.

    • For similar reasons, Spirit of the Hunt can be a good 3 CMC replacement.

    • Speaking of 3 CMC, not a creature but Howlpack Resurgence is strong. Again with the flash, but in addition to the buff, you get trample, which can be really important in some matchups.

    • Speaking of trample, Waxing Moon is another way to get it. This might be better as a sideboard card, though, if you ever end up adding one.

    • And lastly, speaking of a sideboard, Silverfur Partisan might be good against certain matchups that want to one-for-one your creatures with kill/bounce effects. Full on hexproof would be better, but this at least makes the transaction more in your favor.

    Finally, as an upgrade to the manabase, I'd replace Kazandu Refuge with one that doesn't enter tapped. Lots of options to choose from, but some of the better ones are Copperline Gorge, Fire-Lit Thicket (cheaper now thanks to its Double Masters reprint!), Grove of the Burnwillows, and of course Stomping Ground. Any of those could replace Karplusan Forest as well.

    Hope some of this helps! +1 from me.

    Balaam__ on

    1 year ago

    Fair enough, but then I’d definitely swap out Copperline Gorge for Rootbound Crag. With only 1 copy, you won’t be drawing the gorge in your opening hand very often, so being able to play a dual that is unlikely to enter tapped is the better option. With 11 potential forests in this build, odds are good the crag won’t be entering tapped whereas the gorge almost certainly will.

    DemMeowsephs on Prossh Food Chain

    1 year ago

    G'day mate! I might have some suggestions that could help you out, so let's start off looking at your mana base. You run a LOTTTT of lands that come in tapped. In my opinion- you should ditch them all. So what could you add-in? Some of these are kind of pricy, but as you build this deck more definitely consider some of these land options.

    There are also some VERY good ramp options in your colors! Ramp is very important, and I would consider all of these

    Now I know that's a lot, and a lot in money, but I promise you its a big step in helping your deck perform a lot better. Once you have a good mana base, things will come a lot easier. If you ever need to find cards to put in Proshh, I recommend checking out EDHREC, which gives you many helpful suggestions for every commander. (Click here to go to your commander on edhrec. If this helps, be sure to check out and like some of my decks, (Double Trouble EDH, A Deal With the Devil EDH, and many more! Anyways though, good luck on your deck, hope this helps, and have a great day!!! Happy tapping!

    Ammonzy on

    1 year ago

    FSims81

    Btw I want to give you credit on my changes of putting in x2 Copperline Gorge over that Blooming Marsh & Cavern of Souls I had. The deck is a lot more consistent at dropping Rhythm of the Wild and RotW minimizes the lack of Cavern of Souls in the first place.

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