Tundra

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Tundra

Land — Plains Island

(: Gain or .)

legendofa on Any cheap mana permanent with …

5 months ago

Yeah, it's good to get out and play in person if you can. Stay safe, meet good people, and enjoy it.

First thought is, as long as there's no proxy limit, use the original dual lands. Tundra, Taiga, and all the rest have all the upside of the shocklands with none of the downside. If you can, the fetchlands (Wooded Foothills, Windswept Heath, etc.) will give you more consistency and precision in your land base as well.

Basically, proxy up the best possible version of the card you have. Another couple of switches could be Idyllic Tutor -> Enlightened Tutor, or Doomskar -> Supreme Verdict, and even these could probably be improved. The goal is to go as fast and hard as possible. If you want to stick with the Shrine core, then maximize the support and land base. Find ways to play two or three Shrines each turn. Skim through the Legacy meta and pull ideas from there. If everyone's allowed to proxy everything, then you have free reign to go wild.

Above all, have fun!

sylvannos on Pattern Recognition #276 - Eternal …

1 year ago

This article is blaming players for problems caused by WotC. There's nothing really stopping them from printing cards that are staples for older formats other than the secondary market. Players only play Modern and EDH because those formats are accessible compared to Legacy and Vintage, which are largely suffocated by the Reserve List. Even EDH feels that. There's a major difference between a deck using Golgari Guildgate and basic Forests vs. the deck using Bayou and Gaea's Cradle.

You're also not considering another reason people don't want formats that rotate: a lot of older formats aren't solved. Standard often becomes a solved format in a matter of weeks, if not days. Extended didn't have this problem because the card pool was large enough. There wasn't a clear answer as to what the best deck was until U/B Faeries followed by Stoneblade killed the format. People are still trying to figure out what the best deck in Vintage is, despite it being MtG's oldest format. U/R Delver is probably the best deck in Legacy, but Delver isn't as dominating as Grixis Control is right now in Standard.

There's an easy solution to these problems, which is switch from a TCG model to something else (like a Living Card Game) or change how people buy product. Imagine if instead of booster boxes, each new set was released as pre-made cubes that had one copy of each card in the set and each set had enough cards for 8-person Booster Draft or 4-person Sealed. Or if they just reprinted the Reserve List with something like the Zendikar expeditions. EDH players would absolutely buy packs if it meant a chance of opening a Tundra or Mox Diamond.

WotC isn't going to do any of that, however, because these solutions don't make as much money as the lottery tickets known as booster packs. They're also not sure what would happen if they got rid of the RL. If they thought it would make them more money than they'd lose, WotC would have pulled the plug a long time ago. So we're just kind of stuck with Modern, EDH, and so on.

Also, I miss Extended :(

marco-online on What is Your Opinion of …

1 year ago

Caerwyn Sorry that I triggerd you with that controversal statement :). As a reminder the company that develops our cardgame is almost dead. They need us collectors and players to pay for the game - I hope we all understand that... I point to the view of alpha investments. I do not want my cards being reprinted so much that they plummet in price. I don't like that everything is budget. I also don't like that every card is 1.50$ from aliexpress with the current holo stamp. I rather enjoy it to open boxes with valuable pulls that can mitigate the price of a box of cardboard either now or in the future.

Many collectors are selling of their collection because of the current advancements of wotc not just since the '30y celebration'. Caerwyn Why do you like your cards being worth significantly less as they are worth now? Proxies and counterfits and their acceptance are lowering the demand so bluntly that whole collections are being sold away for dirt cheap. People are leaving the train no one is buying boxes is what we got now.

I want to give an example for my views. The inclusion of Prairie Stream vs Tundra is silly to you Caerwyn? My silly idea is litterally to just say that Prairie Stream will never be reprinted. Would this be so bad in your book? If guess if so its just very different opinions xD

Or another recent good move ( I think at least ). The inclusion of something sacre

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

1 year ago

Changelog 12/10/22

Original Dual lands are in
2 color man lands are in
upgrades in every color and almost every guild pair

IN

OUT

legendofa on Mana Crypt is bad

1 year ago

I generally assume that somebody genuinely will want to know the answer to any given question in the future.

WotC doesn't directly control the EDH banlist. Some members of the Commander Rules Committee and Commander Advisory Group have been employed by WotC, and the groups coordinate with each other, but WotC chooses to take no direct control and very little indirect control over EDH. They can print cards for the format (which is a policy I don't always agree with, but whatever), but that's it. They can't order the RC to ban Sol Ring, or Tundra, or any other card.

Tryptic on Mana Crypt is bad

1 year ago

The concept of Supply and Demand doesn't apply, because Wizards has near 100% control over both. Maybe there was a brief window of community-controlled EDH, but from the moment Wizards created Commander they have had the power to ban cards AND the ability to print them. It's all artificial scarcity in the first place.

The problem here is entirely in your statement, "This gives players to the same great cards from 10-15-20 years ago..." Sol Ring and Mana Crypt are not great cards, they are pure shit. Just like how Oko, Thief of Crowns is shit, and Tundra is shit. Powerful does not equal good, and Players like powerful cards whether they're good or not, is the problem. If you got rid of the reserved list today, which Wizards seems to be actually considering, and unbanned Ancestral Recall in Commander, players would get hyped for it but you would be teaching players to eat shit and like it.

The design space isn't infinite, but it isn't small either. It's easy to remove early, badly designed cards and add newer, more fair versions of them; Wizards does this all the time. The problem with this is that you don't know what the replacement COULD be as long as the crappy old version is around. What other mana sources could Wizards cook up if LITERALLY EVERY EDH DECK ON EARTH had to dump Sol Ring and Mana Crypt? That's 1-2 cards per deck in an entire format, which could be filled with something more fun to play, and the total monetary value of the system wouldn't decrease by much.

The problem is, Wizards have dug themselves into an awful hole by handing Rings and Crypts out like candy and stupidly expensive candy, respectively. Their shortsightedness has made it so they can't ban these cards without a huge backlash, so they're permanently stuck with this bad design in the Commander format.

jaminfine on ranar

2 years ago

I recommend replacing Conjurer's Closet with Teleportation Circle One less mana for a slightly stronger effect.

I'd also recommend adding Skycloud Expanse as a cheap mana fixing land for Azorius.

Having a Tundra surprises me, as the rest of your mana base seems pretty basic. But if you're willing to spend a bit, I would consider adding Mystic Gate in as well.

I also really like Venser, the Sojourner for this deck as another Conjurer's Closet type effect. If you're okay with infinite combos, I'd recommend you add Peregrine Drake. When combined with Deadeye Navigator, you get infinite mana, ETBs, and LTBs.

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