Everflowing Chalice

Artifact

Multikicker (You may pay an additional any number of times as you cast this spell.)

Everflowing Chalice enters the battlefield with a charge counter on it for each time it was kicked.

: Gain for each charge counter on Everflowing Chalice.

Discussion (51)

NorinTheWise on Norin Naughty Nonsense

3 days ago

Yet again, love the deck. I am always happy to see well built Norin decks. Thoughts and suggestions:

1. Cloudstone Curio: although this card can be broken in many ways I actually run it for its card advantage, not to break it. Being able to bounce Dualcaster Mage back to your hand whenever Norin ETBs is incredible. If you had the mana you could cast Dualcaster during each other players turn. Returning cards like Imperial Recruiter or Dockside Extortionist feels like crazy card advantage. I understand that more cards aren't being drawn but in an ETB focused deck it keeps your hand full of answers and powerful effects.

2. Remove Manic Vandal: I honestly don't understand why I keep seeing Manic Vandal, Ingot Chewer, and the like in red decks. I understand that they fit the ETB theme that many go for but I find them to be value suckers. Lets say for Manic Vandal you cast him for 3 and same turn copy him with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. Thats 3 cmc and a Kiki-Jiki trigger, that could have gone to a much more powerful ETB effect, resulting in two artifacts being destroyed. A Shattering Spree could do the same with 2 cmc. A By Force with 3 cmc. Granted you have the possibility of recurring Manic Vandal but it still seems like the resources that go into it could be used better elsewhere when red has so many artifact wrath style cards.

3. I have to say I am with Mitch on this one: Wayfarer's Bauble! It may be a personal preference but I think that the actual ramp of the Bauble outweighs the land fetch of Expedition Map and the sort.

4. Gilded Lotus slows down the tempo of your deck. 5 cmc for ramp is a little much when it isn't a doubling effect. I would recommend Everflowing Chalice. It is far more versatile and fits on the curve whenever you want it to.

5. You said you play in a meta with a lot of pesky lands. I would recommend giving Thespian's Stage a go. It can be a fun card to play around with. Stealing the effects from a Gaea's Cradle or Maze of Ith can be a blast.

minisnow on More stuffs

5 days ago

Platinum Emperion Meteor Golem Hedron Crawler Walker of the Wastes Desolation Twin Reality Smasher Warden of Geometries Ugin, the Ineffable Artisan of Kozilek Worn Powerstone Hedron Archive All Is Dust Titan's Presence Geode Golem Void Winnower Palladium Myr It That Betrays Pathrazer of Ulamog Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Deceiver of Form Spawnsire of Ulamog Crashing Drawbridge Manakin Warping Wail Not of This World Mystic Forge Lightning Greaves Planar Bridge Quicksilver Amulet Mirage Mirror Urza's Incubator The Immortal Sun Helm of the Host Herald's Horn Hedron Matrix Vedalken Orrery Eldrazi Conscription

Lands Shrine of the Forsaken Gods Sanctum of Ugin Eye of Ugin Rogue's Passage Zhalfirin Void Tomb of the Spirit Dragon Spawning Bed Mage-Ring Network Nephalia Academy Sanctum of Eternity Wastes Mirrorpool Mikokoro, Center of the Sea Geier Reach Sanitarium Endless Sands Everflowing Chalice Labyrinth of Skophos

slashdotdash on 5 color no theme deck

1 week ago

Dear Kronhamilton

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim is my favorite commander, and I've been brewing around him ever since he was teased. Let me just say you've chosen an excellent commander.

(I’ve written quite a lot in an attempt to make a sort of guide for you, so if you want the short version, check out the Suggestions panel)

Intro

Golos can be tricky to build around since he can do literally anything pretty well. The easiest way to make an effective Golos deck is to lean into Golos's 7 Mana Rainbow Wheel Of Death. Before getting into that though, we need to cover some EDH deckbuilding basics.

I think the most useful advice I can give someone who is just beginning to explore the deck-building territory of EDH is to structure your deck and mind your Ratios. By this I mean it is useful to categorize the cards in your deck according to the role they fulfill.

We’ll begin by looking at some core categories that you’ll want to make your deck function effectively. Then I’ll present the Ratios (how many of each category of card) you will want to make a generic Golos deck function effectively. Next, I’ll include a detailed (but not totally complete, because I’d be here all day) catalogue of cards within some of those categories. I’ll also offer up some suggestions and input about some of your specific card choices. Lastly, since I’m about to unpack a lot of information, I will include a brief list of suggestions (see the bottom) for a generically good Golos ‘Shell’ that should be able to support most Golos strategies.

Categories

Categories

• Draw

• Ramp

• Removal

• Sweepers

• Threats

• Support

• Land

Draw Show

Draw cards are cards that draw you additional cards. There are two subcategories for Draw cards; Draw Spells and Draw Engines.

• Draw Spells are one-time use cards that immediately get you 2 to 3 cards.

• Draw Engines are cards that might not get you cards immediately but will gradually draw you cards as you play your deck and the game goes longer.

Either variety of Draw card may either be generically powerful or may instead be dependent on synergy (meaning you need to do something specific in order to draw cards). Some cards are hybrids that are generically powerful but get better with additional synergy.

Ramp Show

Ramp cards are cards that increase your capacity to produce mana while also accelerating the pace of your mana production. This is generally done by either the card acting as a permanent that creates mana or by finding a land card from your deck and putting it into play. By definition, a Ramp card should be cast within the first 3 turns of the game in order to allow you to cast more/larger spells sooner in the game. For a Golos deck, you should try to ramp once by turn 3 so that you can cast Golos on turn 4 (this won’t always happen, but your deck should be able to do it regularly – see Ratios for more).

There are 3 main subcategories of Ramp; Ramp Spells, Mana Rocks, and Mana Dorks.

• Ramp Spells are one-time use cards that find a land from your deck and put it into play (usually tapped).

• Mana Rocks are artifacts that produce mana.

• Mana Dorks are creatures that produce mana.

Resilience, Speed, and Synergy of Ramp Cards

Ramp Spells are the most Resilient type of Ramp card, as lands are not usually destroyed in EDH. Ramp Spells also trigger Landfall Synergies (Rampaging Baloths, Avenger of Zendikar, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Omnath, Locus of the Roil, Field of the Dead) which can be incredibly powerful over the course of a longer game. Ramp Spells can also “Color Fix” by finding specific basic lands that you might need to cast a spell or complete the Rainbow to activate Golos’s Rainbow Wheel of Death. However, it should be noted that Ramp Spells are purely slower than Mana Rocks as they almost always bring lands into play tapped.

Mana Rocks are not especially resilient due to the presence of cards that destroy artifacts(Reclamation Sage, Bane of Progress, Acidic Slime, Hellkite Tyrant, Hostage Taker). They do synergize with Artifact themed decks though, making them extremely useful in Artifact-heavy decks (Metalwork Colossus, Shimmer Dragon, Padeem, Consul of Innovation, Sai, Master Thopterist, Inventors' Fair). Mana Rocks also possess a distinct advantage in being the fastest type of Ramp, since most Mana Rocks come into play untapped, allowing you to use them immediately.

Mana Dorks are extremely fragile, as they die to Sweepers (Board Wipes like Wrath of God), Combat, and Combat Triggers (Drakuseth, Maw of Flames, Balefire Dragon, Silumgar, the Drifting Death). That being said, Mana Dorks definitely have a place in Green-Creature-heavy decks that enjoy the effects of Creature synergy (Beast Whisperer, Soul of the Harvest, Pathbreaker Ibex). Without haste, Mana Dorks cannot activate their mana producing abilities the turn they enter the battlefield, making them slow like Ramp Spells. Think of them like fragile lands – very risky to invest in.

Removal Show

Removal spells are Instants that destroy a target (typically a creature). These are essential for survival, as you can defend yourself or dismantle an opponent’s plans at a crucial moment and most often during their turn.

The Importance of Instants

Non-instant spells that destroy creatures are never considered Removal because you cannot count on them to save you if your opponent has an explosive turn (for example, they resolve Ghalta, Primal Hunger with Lightning Greaves on the board and they immediately equip the boots and attack you. Only an Instant could respond to the equipping of the boots and destroy Ghalta before it acquired Haste and Shroud.)

Sweepers Show

Sweepers are spells that destroy or ‘bounce’ (return to hand) all creatures and/or other permanents.

These may also be referred to as ‘Boardwipes’.

Deciding to play Sweepers

The decision to include Sweepers may depend on the state of your playgroup (your Meta). For example, if someone in your playgroup is playing an Ezuri, Renegade Leader deck (or similar) then you will almost definitely need to include Sweepers just to keep the nonsense at bay, because otherwise that opponent will likely overwhelm you with a small mountain of creatures. While that is a fun and powerful strategy, it can be counteracted by the presence of a few Sweepers in your deck. A well-built creature deck with the appropriate amount of Draw will still be able to recover, so this isn’t necessarily going to force your opponent to have a miserable time. Think of Sweepers as a way to buy time against faster, more aggressive decks – something that you’ll need to be wary of since you are playing a 5 color deck with a 5 Converted Mana Cost Commander.

Threats Show

Threats are cards that present a challenge to your opponents, most often in the form of a large creature that is capable of killing them and/or smashing their plans to pieces. Threats may take a different form though, such as enchantments, artifacts, planeswalkers, or even lands.

Golos in particular loves threats because of the simple, spicy fact that he can hit them with his Rainbow Wheel Of Death. This makes building a threat-centric Golos deck both incredibly fun and terrifyingly effective.

Support Show

Support cards are somewhat obscure cards that don’t fulfill any of the usual roles, but instead enhance some aspect of your deck by improving your Engines (such as Draw Engines or other Value Engines like a Token Generator) or Threats.

Generally speaking, support cards are the cards that make your deck go from good to crazy and they often empower you to win the game if uninterrupted.

• An example of a support card is Leyline of Anticipation which allows you to cast your spells at any time, but doesn’t do anything by itself.

• In a Blink deck, Panharmonicon (Yarok, the Desecrated too) makes an appearance as the premium support card, doubling Enter-The-Battlefield effects (ETB’s).

• For a Reanimation deck, you might see Deadbridge Chant or Debtors' Knell make an appearance.

Almost any Golos deck particularly enjoys the inclusion of incredibly powerful support cards such as Zendikar Resurgent, Mirari's Wake, Nyxbloom Ancient, or other options that increase the amount of mana you can create to use with Golos’s Rainbow Wheel Of Death.

Land Show

Lands are an obvious inclusion for most Magic decks, but I will mention them anyway.

I am familiar with three main categories of lands; Basic Lands, Utility Lands, and Color Fixing Lands.

Basic Lands are always useful in small quantities for decks that play many Ramp Spells (I recommend this for most Golos decks).

Utility Lands may or may not generate colored mana (for our purposes, we will assume they only generate colorless mana) but they come equipped with a powerful ability.

Color Fixing Lands are lands that are nonbasic but allow us to ‘fix’ our colors by providing us with an option of mana to choose from. These are very helpful for most Golos decks.

Cascading Cataracts

I will mention right now that Cascading Cataracts is the ultimate Color Fixing Land because it can be immediately fetched by Golos and it allows you to consistently Spin The Wheel regardless of your color availability (note that you need 7 mana plus the Cascading Cataracts, which often implies you need 8 lands). If you are plan on playing a deck with few color requirements (mostly one or two primary colors) then this card can singlehandedly enable The Wheel.

Ratios

The art of Ratios is all about determining what combination of cards from each category makes your deck run the most smoothly.

Please note that these Ratios will not total to 99 cards. This is because you will invariably have extra flexibility to choose how your deck behaves even after establishing functional Ratios. Also keep in mind that although these Ratios do recommend you adhere to the minimum number of cards in each category, you still can choose which cards will fill those slots. The point is not to restrict your options, but instead to create a ‘Shell’ that is reliable enough to power your Threats cards, Support cards, and other cards. Whatever you do, make sure you have at least the minimum number of Draw and Ramp cards. THE MOST IMPORTANT CARDS IN THE DECK ARE DRAW AND RAMP!!!

While I ultimately suggest Ratios resembling the Basic Golos Shell, I will lay out the Ratios for several different Shells;

• Template: a sort of baseline beginner’s guide which is commonly promoted as a place to start.

• Basic Golos: a modified version of the Template that suites most Golos decks.

• Control: a version tailored for a slower game with many Sweepers.

• Aggro: a version designed to act quickly and deploy Threats before the opponents are prepared.

• Big Mana: a version invested heavily into Ramp with the goal of deploying many end-game Threats.

• Mega Mana: an even more extreme version of Big Mana with extremely expensive Threats.

Template Show

• Ramp – 10-12

• Draw – 10-12

• Removal – 6-8

• Sweepers – 1-3

• Threats – 8-13

• Support – 5-10

• Land – 35-37

Basic Golos Show

• Ramp – 12

• Draw – 13

• Removal – 7

• Sweepers – 2

• Threats – 12

• Support – 7

• Land – 36

Total: 89

Control Show

• Ramp – 8

• Draw – 15

• Removal – 7

• Sweepers – 6

• Threats – 10

• Support – 10

• Land – 36

Total: 92

Aggro Show

• Ramp – 15

• Draw – 8

• Removal – 6

• Sweepers – 0

• Threats – 20

• Support – 8

• Land – 35

Total: 92

Big Mana Show

• Ramp – 14

• Draw – 14

• Removal – 7

• Sweepers – 2

• Threats – 16

• Support – 8

• Land – 36

Total: 97

Mega Mana Show

• Ramp – 20

• Draw – 13

• Removal – 7

• Sweepers – 2

• Threats – 12

• Support – 8

• Land – 36

Total: 98

Catalogue

Draw Show

Generic Draw Spells

• Read the Bones

• Drawn from Dreams

• Urban Evolution

• Harmonize

• Ambition's Cost

• Ancient Craving

• Syphon Mind

• Concentrate

• Ugin's Insight

• Rush of Knowledge

Synergy Draw Spells

(Many Creatures)

• Shamanic Revelation

• Tishana, Voice of Thunder

• Regal Force

• Voice of Many

(Big Creatures)

• Rishkar's Expertise

• Return of the Wildspeaker

• Soul's Majesty

• Keruga, the Macrosage

(Blink – using effects like Ephemerate to ‘Blink’ or ‘Flicker’ cards for enter-the-battlefield [ETB] effects)

• Mulldrifter (if you cast an Ephemerate after Mulldrifter ETB’s but before it sacrifices itself, you can stop it from dying and draw four cards)

• Cloudblazer

• Cavalier of Gales

• Wall of Blossoms

• Wall of Omens

• Elvish Visionary

• Watcher for Tomorrow

• Generous Patron (I promise you, the two cards is worth giving away two counters)

(Tribal – Many creatures of one type, such as elementals or goblins)

• Risen Reef

• Distant Melody

Generic Draw Engines

• Underworld Connections

• Phyrexian Arena

• Bringer of the Blue Dawn

• Vilis, Broker of Blood

• Mind Unbound

• The Magic Mirror

• Thought Reflection

• Damia, Sage of Stone

• The Ur-Dragon

Synergy Draw Engines

(Many Creatures)

• Beast Whisperer

• Primordial Sage

• Soul of the Harvest

• Guardian Project

• Chulane, Teller of Tales

(Big Creatures)

• Elemental Bond

• Temur Ascendancy

• Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner

• Garruk, Primal Hunter

• Colossal Majesty

• Drumhunter

(Combat Matters)

• Reconnaissance Mission

• Bident of Thassa

• Ohran Viper

• Ohran Frostfang

• Keeper of Fables

• Oakhame Adversary

• Cold-Eyed Selkie

• Coastal Piracy

Ramp Show

Ramp Spells

• Rampant Growth

• Farseek

• Into the North

• Nature's Lore

• Search for Tomorrow

• Sakura-Tribe Elder

• Growth Spasm

• Beanstalk Giant

• Far Wanderings

• Harrow

• Cultivate

• Kodama's Reach

• Explosive Vegetation

• Skyshroud Claim

• Migration Path

• Circuitous Route

• Wood Elves

• Springbloom Druid

• Yavimaya Dryad

• Farhaven Elf

Mana Rocks

• Sol Ring

• Fellwar Stone

• Arcane Signet

• Simic Signet (also see signets for: Azorius, Rakdos, Gruul, Golgari, Dimir, Boros, Izzet, Selesnya, Orzhov)

• Everflowing Chalice

• Mind Stone

• Chromatic Lantern

Mana Dorks

• Birds of Paradise

• Arbor Elf

• Llanowar Elves

• Llanowar Tribe

• Faeburrow Elder

• Elvish Mystic

• Paradise Druid

• Sylvan Caryatid

• Ilysian Caryatid

• Leafkin Druid

• Leyline Prowler

Removal Show

• Swords to Plowshares

• Dire Tactics

• Heartless Act

• Rapid Hybridization

• Pongify

• Terminate

• Despark

• Putrefy

• Mortify

• Price of Fame

• Path to Exile

• Utter End

Sweepers Show

• Wrath of God

• Day of Judgment

• Fumigate

• Supreme Verdict

• Flood of Tears

• Sublime Exhalation

• Coastal Breach

• Time Wipe

• Duneblast

• In Garruk's Wake

• Plague Wind

• Cataclysmic Gearhulk

• Mythos of Snapdax

• Massacre Girl

Threats Show

• Quartzwood Crasher

• Avenger of Zendikar

• Rampaging Baloths

• Artisan of Kozilek

• Kogla, the Titan Ape

• Tendershoot Dryad

• Many, many, many more…

Support Show

• Zendikar Resurgent

• Nyxbloom Ancient

• Mirari's Wake

• Sunbird's Invocation

• Maelstrom Nexus

• Support cards often depend on the deck…

Land Show

Utility Lands

• Field of the Dead

• Reliquary Tower (only if you expect to draw a billion cards)

• Westvale Abbey  ^Flip

• Kessig Wolf Run

• Slayers' Stronghold

• Vault of the Archangel

• Alchemist's Refuge

• Temple of the False God

• Halimar Depths

Color Fixing Lands

• Command Tower

• Evolving Wilds

• Terramorphic Expanse

• Ash Barrens

• Exotic Orchard

• Krosan Verge

• Sandsteppe Citadel

• Savage Lands

• Seaside Citadel

• Opulent Palace

• Nomad Outpost

• Crumbling Necropolis

• Arcane Sanctum

• Jungle Shrine

• Mystic Monastery

• Frontier Bivouac

• Indatha Triome

• Ketria Triome

• Raugrin Triome

• Zagoth Triome

• Savai Triome

• Cinder Glade

• Canopy Vista

• Prairie Stream

• Sunken Hollow

• Smoldering Marsh

• Fabled Passage

Suggestions

Please remember that any suggestions I make are because I am trying to help. Ultimately, the choices you make with your deck are up to you, and I can only provide constructive criticism based on my own experience and opinions.

Good luck :)

Ratio Fixing

The most effective change to your deck would probably be adjusting the Ratios, especially with regard to your Draw cards. Applying the most basic Template Shell, you want to have at least these three quantities nailed down for a smoother and reasonably powerful deck;

• Lands – 36 --> You have 40 Lands (Cut 4 Lands)

• Ramp – 10 --> You have 5 true Ramp cards (Add 5 to 8 Ramp cards)

• Draw – 10 --> You have 3 true Draw cards (Add 7 to 10 Draw cards)

Ramp & Draw Additions Show

Ramp

• 1 Rampant Growth

• 2 Farseek

• 3 Sakura-Tribe Elder

• 4 Sol Ring

• 5 Cultivate

• 6 Kodama's Reach

• 7 Springbloom Druid

• 8 Search for Tomorrow

Draw

• 1 Read the Bones

• 2 Harmonize

• 3 Drawn from Dreams

• 4 Syphon Mind

• 5 Ugin's Insight

• 6 Ambition's Cost

• 7 Ancient Craving

• 8 Underworld Connections

• 9 Elemental Bond

• 10 Urban Evolution

What I counted in your deck Show

Under the Ramp category I counted:

• Humble Naturalist

• Fertilid

• Dimir Locket

• Ketria Crystal

• Raugrin Crystal

These cards are NOT Ramp cards:

• Farfinder

• Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (fantastic Support card)

• Migratory Greathorn

• Parcelbeast

• Adventurous Impulse

Under the Draw category I counted:

• Reconnaissance Mission

• Chevill, Bane of Monsters (this is not a good Draw card)

• Dreamtail Heron (well, maybe)

These cards are NOT Draw cards:

• Farfinder

• Adventurous Impulse

• Cathartic Reunion

• Channeled Force

• and others

I see a few cards that Recover cards from the graveyard and that is fine but it is not Draw.

Cycling cards are not Draw cards if we define Draw cards as being able to find you 2 or 3 cards and thus help refill your hand.

Mutate

Depending on how strong your Mutate subtheme is, some of your Mutate inclusions may act as engines. However, I must state that Mutate is a VERY risky and even fragile strategy since your Mutate ‘Pile’ of creatures will all be destroyed at once if your opponent uses a Removal spell or a Sweeper. For that reason, I recommend leaning out of the Mutate theme (unless the Mutate card is just straight-up insane, as in the example of Nethroi, Apex of Death).

With that said, playing a Mutate theme is your decision and I totally respect that and if you want to stick to a Mutate theme then by all means do so. I just want to be sure you know that Mutate is a risky strategy that you cannot depend on to fulfill your Ramp and Draw slots (so you’ll just need to supplement it with other cards).

Cut or Include?

At a glance your deck seems like something you have created using just your collection – and that’s great! However, if you want to incrementally upgrade your deck, then I recommend replacing most of the cards in your deck with more powerful options over time.

Here is a list of cards you should probably keep playing: - Barrier Breach (Removal, because exiling 3 enchantments is helpful in some situations)

• Reconnaissance Mission (Draw, especially if you plan on attacking constantly)

• Ruinous Ultimatum (Sweeper)

• Mythos of Illuna (Other, sometimes Removal)

• Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger (Threat)

• Klothys, God of Destiny (Support)

• Dryad of the Ilysian Grove (Support)

• Drakuseth, Maw of Flames (Threat)

• Extinction Event (Sweeper)

• Titanoth Rex (Threat)

In my opinion, there are other, better options for all of the other nonland cards in the deck, however it is up to you to decide on how you would like to proceed so I won’t intrude.

I strongly recommend cutting the Planeswalkers though – Calix, Destiny's Hand doesn’t seem to synergize much with the deck and I feel that Lukka, Coppercoat Outcast is not very potent.

Lands

Just as a recommendation, I would suggest the following spread of Basic Lands;

• 8 Basic Forests

• 3 of each other Basic Land

The remainder of your lands could be either more basics (which is really, really, risky if you don’t have tons of Ramp – think like 15 Ramp cards and about 12 Basic Forests) or Color Fixing Lands (see the Catalogue for more options). It is rough to have your lands enter the battlefield tapped, but unless you want to either lean into Green or spend a lot of money on lands, you will just have to live with it (I play around 5-10 tapped lands in a normal Golos deck and it isn’t really that bad).

Shell

In this section, I will list out an example of the Basic Golos Shell complete with the necessary Ratios and some examples of good/fun cards in each category. I’ll try to keep it relatively Budget sensitive and most of these cards will be relatively random – this won’t be based on any particular theme so don’t expect it to be optimal.

As a reminder:

Basic Golos Show

• Ramp – 12

• Draw – 13

• Removal – 7

• Sweepers – 2

• Threats – 12

• Support – 7

• Land – 36

Total: 89

The Shell

Ramp – 12

• Farseek

• Rampant Growth

• Springbloom Druid

• Wood Elves

• Sakura-Tribe Elder

• Cultivate

• Farseek

• Sol Ring

• Search for Tomorrow

• Paradise Druid

• Into the North

• Migration Path

Draw – 13

• Harmonize

• Read the Bones

• Syphon Mind

• Ancient Craving

• Ambition's Cost

• Drawn from Dreams

• Ugin's Insight

• Rush of Knowledge

• Urban Evolution

• Elemental Bond

• Underworld Connections

• Kumena's Awakening

• Concentrate

Removal – 7

• Dire Tactics

• Heartless Act

• Despark

• Beast Within

• Terminate

• Price of Fame

• Reality Shift

Sweepers – 2

• Ruinous Ultimatum

• Plague Wind

Threats – 12

• Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger

• Quartzwood Crasher

• Kogla, the Titan Ape

• Artisan of Kozilek

• Drakuseth, Maw of Flames

• Sephara, Sky's Blade

• Vilis, Broker of Blood

• Tyrant's Familiar

• Teneb, the Harvester

• Scute Mob

• Blood Tyrant

• Rampaging Baloths

Support – 7

• Klothys, God of Destiny

• Dryad of the Ilysian Grove

• Inspired Ultimatum

• Genesis Ultimatum

• Emergent Ultimatum

• Eerie Ultimatum

• Brainstorm

Land – 36

• Command Tower

• Ash Barrens

• Exotic Orchard

• Krosan Verge

• Terramorphic Expanse

• Evolving Wilds

• Sandsteppe Citadel

• Savage Lands

• Jungle Shrine

• Frontier Bivouac

• Opulent Palace

• Temple of the False God

• 4 Forest

• 2Snow-Covered Forest

• 1 Plains

• 2 Snow-Covered Plains

• 1 Mountain

• 2 Snow-Covered Mountain

• 1 Swamp

• 2 Snow-Covered Swamp

• Cinder Glade

• Scattered Groves

• Prairie Stream

• Smoldering Marsh

• Sunken Hollow

• Nomad Outpost

• Mystic Monastery

• Crumbling Necropolis

• Cascading Cataracts

Good Luck :)

-Slashdotdash

jacobpmesser on Karn and Urza, Saing in a Tree

1 week ago

I added Coretapper that can be brought back with Emry, can be sac'ed for free, and helps with Everflowing Chalice, Engineered Explosives, Chalice of the Void shenanigans opponents aren't prepared for.

jaymc1130 on Emry Forgeworks [cEDH Primer]

2 weeks ago

Sultai_Sir

For the most part, the combos in Emry Forgeworks are it's engines that generate infinite mana/card draw. The basic functions and components are discussed because they are simple and will see use in a lot of games. I don't think it's all that worthwhile to get into some of the more niche combo set ups that will rarely happen for a couple of reasons: first, half the fun of playing Emry Forgeworks is solving the puzzle of how to assemble a game winning engine combo with the tools a pilot currently has access to, and second, the crazy narrow combos won't be relevant in 95% of games because they often require very specific circumstances to function. I suppose the looping kills could also be considered combos of a sort, and that's why they got descriptions too.

As for a budget build, I can't make specific recommendations without a list to parse over. However, I can make some general recommendations about cards that have some merit in competitive settings that don't break the bank. There are a lot of low cost artifacts out there with sacrifice abilities that can be useful and these types of cards are wonderful Emry synergy pieces. Your spellbombs, lanterns, eggs and other such pieces are capable replacements for some of the more expensive pieces, particularly the expensive card advantage pieces when replaced with cheap card draw on sacrifice artifacts. Some of the combo engines could be cut entirely for a budget build that doesn't expect to be playing against $10k dollar decks on a regular basis, such as the Mystic Top combo that requires Sensei's Divining Top. The deck will still function fine without it even if it will be slightly less consistent or have more difficulty in certain game scenarios. The expensive interaction pieces like Force of Will and Mana Drain can definitely be replaced with more budget friendly options like Stoic Rebuttal. The expensive mana rocks can easily be substituted for with options like Everflowing Chalice or Jeweled Amulet. None of the fetch lands are a requirement for a budget build, and the same goes for some of the luxury lands like Gemstone Caverns and Ancient Tomb. Replacing these cards with some good old Islands is perfectly fine. Just with these types of budget replacements you could easily bring the deck's cost down under $500.

jaymc1130 on Emry Forgeworks [cEDH Primer]

2 weeks ago

Sultai_Sir

For the most part, the combos in Emry Forgeworks are it's engines that generate infinite mana/card draw. The basic functions and components are discussed because they are simple and will see use in a lot of games. I don't think it's all that worthwhile to get into some of the more niche combo set ups that will rarely happen for a couple of reasons: first, half the fun of playing Emry Forgeworks is solving the puzzle of how to assemble a game winning engine combo with the tools a pilot currently has access to, and second, the crazy narrow combos won't be relevant in 95% of games because they often require very specific circumstances to function. I suppose the looping kills could also be considered combos of a sort, and that's why they got descriptions too.

As for a budget build, I can't make specific recommendations without a list to parse over. However, I can make some general recommendations about cards that have some merit in competitive settings that don't break the bank. There are a lot of low cost artifacts out there with sacrifice abilities that can be useful and these types of cards are wonderful Emry synergy pieces. Your spellbombs, lanterns, eggs and other such pieces are capable replacements for some of the more expensive pieces, particularly the expensive card advantage pieces when replaced with cheap card draw on sacrifice artifacts. Some of the combo engines could be cut entirely for a budget build that doesn't expect to be playing against $10k dollar decks on a regular basis, such as the Mystic Top combo that requires Sensei's Divining Top. The deck will still function fine without it even if it will be slightly less consistent or have more difficulty in certain game scenarios. The expensive interaction pieces like Force of Will and Mana Drain can definitely be replaced with more budget friendly options like Stoic Rebuttal. The expensive mana rocks can easily be substituted for with options like Everflowing Chalice or Jeweled Amulet. None of the fetch lands are a requirement for a budget build, and the same goes for some of the luxury lands like Gemstone Caverns and Ancient Tomb. Replacing these cards with some good old Islands is perfectly fine. Just with these types of budget replacements you could easily bring the deck's cost down under $500.

Mike94 on Alela The Queen of Faerie's

2 weeks ago

Your artifact ramp could be more optimized.

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Take out all the Diamonds and put in Signets, they don't come into play tapped and are great for fixing your mana. Lotus Petal could be considered since it plays well with your commander, Fellwar Stone is also great or even Mind Stone. Just don't play mana ramp that comes into play tapped.

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I would also try to leave some creatures out for powerfull enchantments/artifacts since your commander is focused on them, if you cast them you'll get a creature for free. I would consider these enchantments/artifacts: Grasp of Fate, Search for Azcanta  ^Flip, Darksteel Mutation, Estrid's Invocation, Mirrormade, Copy Enchantment, Skullclamp, Sword of the Animist, Lightning Greaves.

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Alela goes infinite quite easy with cards like Banishing Knack or Retraction Helix combined with a Battered Golem, Mirran Spy or Traxos, Scourge of Kroog and any 0 drop atrifact; Tormod's Crypt, Ornithopter, Everflowing Chalice, Memnite orvSpellbook. Making infinite faeries and infinite casts (Storm). Put an Aetherflux Reservoir next to this combo and BOOM.

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If you don't like to go infinite you could also play Coat of Arms making your faeries lethal on the spot or Magister Sphinx to mess with someone specifically.

Mortlocke on Grixis Infection

3 weeks ago

Hey SevynnthDimension,

First things first - you need to have a proper deck description. I have no idea what you're really going for with this deck outside of:

1. Play a bunch of random infect cards
2. Get some stax pieces out
3. ???
4. Hope for a Win?

Writing a thoughtful deck description will not only help everyone who randomly visits your page (like me), but will help you gain a better understanding of what you're trying to accomplish with this deck. A general guide you can follow would be answering the following questions:

1. What turn can my deck consistently threaten to win the game?

2. What are the themes in this deck? (Obviously Infect, and +1/+1 counters)

3. Are there any cards deemed controversial or salt inducing among opponents? (Obviously all infect cards, especially Blightbutt and Skittles)

These are also questions you should be asking your opponents before you sit down and start a game (those three questions you would be discussing with your opponents are known as the turn 0 talk). One thing that does help alleviate some of the salt Infect produces is ensuring that your opponents know what they are signing up for. I guess the term "social contract" applies here. But yeah, you need to be doing this before starting a game - especially with an infect deck.

Another resource to consult is Epochalyptik's Do you want to write a primer?. There you have an expanded list of topics to address and questions to ask yourself. I know it's easy to throw together a bunch of cards - but if you really care about your commander, and the deck you're constructing then you'll go deeper and ask yourself

A suggestion: Cut about 5 to 8 lands, and include more interaction, ramp, and rocks - especially the latter. Grixis has few cheap ramp staples, but the usual suspects i'd recommend are: Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Fellwar Stone, Arcane Signet, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Creativity, Talisman of Indulgence, and Mana Crypt (Sorry, I know the last one is dumb expensive). If you're playing infect, then usually you're playing some form of prolifeation. That doesn't seem to be much of a subtheme here, but if you do decide to lean more into it then you could try out Everflowing Chalice as well.

As for interaction, you have some very strong color options. Imp's Mischief, friggin Toxic Deluge, Damnation, Black Sun's Zenith, Deadly Rollick, Counterspell, Fierce Guardianship, Negate, Mana Leak, Vandalblast, Blasphemous Act, Faithless Looting, and Countersquall. All very good options. Also, you could do with a bit more draw options as well - Windfall, Wheel of Fortune, (Expensive, I know - sorry) and Rhystic Study are all great staples.

Infect/Poison counters can only get you so far in commander. Take it as an inevitability that you will outright lose due to the mechanic being so politically weak. Assume that at the start of every game you will be isolated and that players will more often than not band together to remove your infect creatures/sources. To better compensate, you need to have a reliable secondary theme built into your deck that can help you get to victory.