, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Arid Mesa: Search your library for a Mountain or Plains card and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
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Arid Mesa Discussion
5 days ago
So, here are my thoughts about the deck:
Manawise, your landbase should rather consist of lands that come into play untapped. It's important to have your mana available asap. I would suggest replacing karoo lands like Orzhov Basilica and also Opulent Palace with battlelands like Sea of Clouds and painlands Adarkar Wastes. The storage lands are also not ideal (e.g. Dreadship Reef), because they do not provide colored mana at start. And of course the more fetchlands you can add the better, missing Scalding Tarn, Arid Mesa, Verdant Catacombs, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, Flooded Strand, Bloodstained Mire.
I would suggest you to cut even the three remaining creatures and add additional card advantage and lock pieces. Im missing Sylvan Library, Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora... all important ways to get extra cards.
Since your main wincon is the Consultation combos, I suggest you definitely run Thassa's Oracle as a main, cheap combo piece.
Lightning Greaves, boots and Helm are not necessary, since protecting Atraxa should not be such a priority to warrant extra cards for it. Also Mana Tithe, Mana Leak and Opt are not that relevant in a multiplayer format. I would advise to replace them with general, cheap countermagic, for better utility. Dovin's Veto, Delay, Swan Song, Tale's End can serve both to protect your cards and your combo, but also disrupt your opponents from winning.
Also with the amount of manarocks, you could play Winter Orb to stall and buy bit more time for your 'walkers.
5 days ago
This deck looks like a blast to play and looks like a solid list overall. I do have some suggestions/feedback though. You should be able to go wide enough that the buffs you get outweights the buffs your opponents get with Coat of Arms. If you buff other tribal decks, which seem to be relatively rare IME, they're less likely to attack you, so it's a great politics piece. I'd add the relevant shocklands (think Sacred Foundry, fetchlands (think Arid Mesa), and/or checklands (think Clifftop Retreat) to upgrade the manabase, & I think Chromatic Lantern would be a good addition. I'm not too hot on Skyshroud Claim, Mowu, Pridemalkin, or Longshot Squad. The latter three don't interact with the deck too well and Claim only gets forests, which isn't great in a 3c deck imo.
1 week ago
Modified to add Suppression Field to slow down PW's and, well, just about everything. So I subbed out my Blasting Station for Purphoros, God of the Forge and Impact Tremors. These go infinite with Solemnity and Murderous Redcap.
2 weeks ago
one last thing, I hate that you can't edit these comments, anyways, instead of "Scalding tarn", there are cheaper fetches you could add, it just depends on the colours you want. Arid Mesa is the cheapest of the fetches and that fetches Boros colours. you already have Windswept Heath. so yeah. I would add Arid Mesa Before Scalding Tarn, as that is cheaper.
2 weeks ago
My girlfriend just asked me to put Slivers back together. Anyways, as far as the land base goes I'm gunna list. Things out by cost/relevancy
duals I know eww reserved list but if you got em or can proxy em play em
fetches they're getting their reprint in modern horizons 2 but still stupid expensive - but the fixing is just so good!
Reflecting Pool, Cavern of Souls, City of Brass, Tarnished Citadel, Mana Confluence, Forbidden Orchard, Exotic Orchard, Meteor Crater, Pillar of the Paruns, Ancient Ziggurat, Path of Ancestry, Thran Quarry, Gemstone Mine, Aether Hub and Tendo Ice Bridge
I'm not a mega fan of the depletion lands but they're excellent if you're on a budget :)
shocks - you already got a few I'll recommend getting the rest
Utility lands very overpriced cardboard but the power is definitely there
From there, if those cards are out of budget/you cannot proxy I'd go with the Triomes, battlebond lands Sea of Clouds, check lands Hinterland Harbor, and lastly the painlands Battlefield Forge beyond those the lands start becoming too inefficient and you will be targeted playing slivers. Even if you're not the threat having a slow land base is a death sentence. Hope this helped :)
3 weeks ago
I'd say all of the lands you listed except for Maze of Ith. Fetchlands and shocklands are the best thing you can do your for landbase outside of the original duals (which are hundreds each). In a 5-colour deck you're already limited on how many types of lands you can have, and Maze of Ith doesn't do much notable for a deck like this IMO. If you're going this deep into expensive lands and tutors, I highly recommend picking up a Mana Confluence, City of Brass, and Forbidden Orchard. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is an auto-include in any 2+ colour deck that features Black and can be tapped for Black itself. Ancient Tomb is amazing in decks with lots of colourless requirements like this. Prismatic Vista is very good too though less on the priority list for its price.
If you're going to be investing a lot into lands, make sure you make a faux list before buying anything since you don't want to get excess that you won't use. My personal general priority for 5-colour (ignoring OG duals) goes:
Assuming you take just what I listed there that puts you at 30 lands (minus basics). That gives you room for cards like Cavern of Souls, Reflecting Pool, Exotic Orchard, etc. Of course it totally comes down to how much you want to sink into your landbase, but it's a good place to start before tweaking things to your preference. You should keep at least one of each basic, or at least your main colours' basics for backup fetching. Battlelands like Sunken Hollow lose value the more you optimized your landbase due to lack of backs but are still good to take over say, bondlands. Since you already have them they'll do fine while also having the bonus of being tutored out by fetchlands.
Now that the wall of land-related text is over, time for the other cards you listed. Demonic Tutor is top tier, definitely get it if you have the money. Also look at Vampiric Tutor and Worldly Tutor. I personally like Dromoka, the Eternal, Kaalia of the Vast you already know how I recommend it, and Nesting Dragon is decent as a card but I don't think it'd work well here since you don't have a way to easily pop the eggs yourself. Future Sight is okay but I personally wouldn't run it in Ur-Dragon. Herald's Horn and Urza's Incubator I personally just take more mana rocks over but in your slower meta they could be decent picks. Mirari's Wake is amazing, and Nature's Lore you already know.
Since you're going this much into the deep end, once you get everything else set up first there's always the $$$$$ rocks like Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Chrome Mox, and god forbid Mox Diamond waiting for you. Just, you know, they're worth entire decks alone so only go for them once you're fully satisfied on the rest of the deck lmfao
3 weeks ago
No problem! It just comes down to experience really. If you're playing on Cockatrice, I wholly recommend running Tundra and a full set of fetchlands:
Fetchlands hit any card with its land type in its description. For example Arid Mesa hits any Plains, meaning not only can it fetch basics but also can get you Tundra and Hallowed Fountain. They're one of the best things you can do for a deck's consistency. I recommend cutting Evolving Wilds and Fabled Passage to start, and then decide on what else you want to drop for the rest.
Next you'll want to be adding fast mana. Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, and Chrome Mox will help a tonne. Keep Sol Ring and Arcane Signet alongside them, altogether they'll speed the deck up a lot which especially helps due to your higher average cmc.
On top those you could add Fierce Guardianship and Pact of Negation as great counterspells, as well as Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora for card draw. Of course the more stuff you add in general the more you have to remove, so it's up to you.
Ojutai is a great commander though, so have fun!
1 month ago
Hey there mate! From what I see, you have all three shock lands (Pay 2 on ETB), all the filter lands (Pay X/Y get combination) and the check lands (ETB tapped unless X/Y). These are all great lands, but I think almost everything else can get a nice sweet upgrade. Note some of my suggestions may not be in your budget
- Blackcleave Cliffs
- Concealed Courtyard
- Inspiring Vantage
- Bloodstained Mire (Budget: Rocky Tar Pit
- Marsh Flats
- Arid Mesa
- Sulfurous Springs
- Caves of Koilos/Silent Clearing
- Battlefield Forge/Sunbaked Canyon
- Luxury Suite
- Vault of Champions
- Spectator Seating
- Ancient Tomb
- Prismatic Vista (A better Evolving Wilds)
- City of Brass
- Mana Confluence
- Reflecting Pool
- Strip Mine/Wasteland (A better Ghost Quarter)
- Gemstone Caverns
Glacial Chasm (For Pillowfort?)
Now I know that is quite a lot, but don't worry- I have an idea. I personally believe all of the following could and should be cut for some of the suggestions below, as you progress with your deck. Akoum Refuge, Bloodfell Caves, Evolving Wilds, Ghost Quarter, Nomad Outpost (Maybe Savai Triome instead?), Opal Palace, Scoured Barrens, Smoldering Marsh (it's only good in decks heavy with basics), Wind-Scarred Crag, etc!
Hope this helps! If you like my suggestions be sure to support some of my decks (Double Trouble EDH *PRIMER*). Anyways though, hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day! Happy tapping!