Creeping Tar Pit
Creeping Tar Pit enters the battlefield tapped.
Gain or .
: Until end of turn, Creeping Tar Pit becomes a 3/2 blue and black Elemental creature and is unblockable. It's still a land.
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Creeping Tar Pit Discussion
4 months ago
4 months ago
Hoooookay. You said you were new, so this is a good try, but we're gonna basically entirely revamp this list.
First, you literally cannot use Mystic Sanctuary in a 3-color deck without fetches, and I do not mean Evolving Wilds . Lose that idea, you can't make it work with the budget you appear to have. (of course come back to it once you can afford 4x Flooded Strand , 4x Polluted Delta , and 2x each Hallowed Fountain and Watery Grave .)
Your(budget) manabase should look something like this:
2x Celestial Colonnade (as a win con)
2x Creeping Tar Pit (as a win con)
4x Port Town
The core of a budget Esper control deck is 4 each Serum Visions, Opt, Fatal Push, Path to Exile, Day of Judgement(or other 4-mana wrath), Archmage's Charm,
The other cards in that list that you should absolutely run are Esper Charm, any Teferi, most Jace walkers, Silundi Vision(run all of those if you can), Saw it Coming, Doomskar.
Chromium is a fine finisher, but don't run 3. Use 1, possibly 2 if you somehow have problems finding it.
I also recommend using Thassa's Intervention and any 5 cmc or less planeswalker with the text 'draw a card' on either of its first two abilities.
Quick edit: shadow63, no, control can stand taplands. But the manlands and MDFC lands are the only real lands that are worth entering tapped. (basically, they end up being extra lands that do a lot but aren't just lands.)
Also, you may want to tinker with how many manlands are used. Additionally, any spell double-faced lands are definitely playable if their spell side is worth casting at any point. Just don't cut lands for them.
You're control -- the things you're doing turns 1-2-3 are mostly Opt, Serum Visions, Path and Push.
6 months ago
8 months ago
Thanks for looking at the mana. I'm not sure about it since I haven't played yet (and next get together is probably in a month or so), but I think you make a valid case with the tapped lands. I want to try out the new MDFCs and I found out i have the U/R and U/B duals lying around. I've swapped them and Interplanar Beacon for Temple of Deceit, Vivid Crag and Creeping Tar Pit. What others would you recommend cutting for more basics?
Perhaps you're right on the 3cmc artifacts too, even though I'd say commander's sphere is decent because it cycles for free when you don't need it anymore. I might add Rakdos Signet and cut Chromatic Lantern.
True that's a combo. I don't think I'll run it beause I don't have the cards currently interesting loop for sure though!
That play pattern appeals, so maybe I'll find room for it later. A bit of randomness like that can make games more fun
Beacon is in now :)
The idea with most artifacts is that they either ramp, proliferate or benefit from proliferation (see the section Card by Card). Which other cards do you feel are part of the subtheme but don't contribute?
If you're talking about Saheeli, Tezzeret and (now x2) Daretti: I think the Business Artifacts in the list (the chain veil, contagion clasp/engine and lithoform engine) are worth fetching / copying even just on their own, but maybe your idea is they don't do enough?
Let me know because I'm curious what you think on the topic, if you have suggestions to spice up the artifact theme I'd gladly hear them!
9 months ago
also I would do some small mana fixing that is cheap like:
10 months ago
Secure the Wastes is a bomb, abuse it ;)
The best dual tapped manlands are really Celestial Colonnade, Lumbering Falls, and Creeping Tar Pit, abuse the heck out of them! Mishra's Workshop, Inkmoth Nexus, Blinkmoth Nexus, and Mutavault are also all amazing, so do as you wish with those! Otherwise Treetop Village, Faerie Conclave, and perhaps even Frostwalk Bastion are good enough to test ;)
11 months ago
The best end game wincons so far: Angel's Grace/Ad Nauseam, Field of the Dead or Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle with Scapeshift or on their own. Dark Depths/Thespian Stage also is amazing in the format. Remember to use manlands, like Creeping Tar Pit or whatever you find fun. I know I'll look at Mutavault heavily for the format. Tokens can also do well, Commence the Endgame seems great!
Engines outside of it that can grind games are Mystic Sanctuary and Cryptic Command/Tragic Lesson/Daze/Gush, Life from the Loam and Horizon Canopy/Tranquil Thicket (Or any other cycling lands, but honestly Lftl works amazing on it's own).
What cards are really good to know about? Unsummon and effects like it should really be good, as all non-land permanents are tokens. Sinkhole and land destruction must be realized to be a very powerful effect, and Thoughtseize style discard is great!
Remember that Negate is just a cheaper Cancel and Miscast is a cheaper Mana Leak. Additionally Muddle the Mixture can both be a Counterspell or a Life from the Loam, and can be returned with Mystic Sanctuary.
Veil of Summer, Lightning Bolt, Silence, Stifle, Miscast, Flusterstorm, Dovin's Veto, Surgical Extraction & Cling to Dust (Amazing against Loam decks and some Sanctuary decks, as well as shutting off backup combos from recursive loops)
Currently Noxious Revival, Echoing Truth, Divert/Misdirection (against discard and burn), most discard, burn, Merchant Scroll, Entreat the Angels (Works well with Brainstorm, Mystic Sanctuary, etc.), and more are all strong.
Overall, it seems like a format where blue dominated, with green engines and tutors like Crop Rotation or Sylvan Scrying can set up the easy combos. Entomb for Life from the Loam, maybe Mission Briefing can do well too.
The best decks seem to be Bant Control, Simic Scapshift (sultai?), Sultai Loam Depths, Golgari Depths (Hymn to Tourach style list), Azorius Control (Entreat Sanctuary style) and Dimir+ Control (No idea the wincon, but a 2-4 color list, aimed at Miscast, Cling to Dust, and Thoughtseize as a base). A ramp build for field outside of Scapeshift, perhaps running it as only a backup, or perhaps a Sultai Loam Field Ramp list could work.
Sadly if you memorize the 6ish real wincons, the 4 bases, and understand the few counterplays the format is solved