Volcanic Island

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DemMeowsephs on Parun Storm

1 month ago

Hey there! I might be able to give you some suggestions though whether they are helpful or not I'm not sure. Let's start off with lands.

Basics aren't BAD but there are SO many options that could be better than them, and personally I don't think its worth it to run that many of them when there are those better options. I would consider some of the following! (If you have the budget)

• Spirebluff Canal
• Fiery Islet
• Cascade Bluffs
• Volcanic Island
• Scalding Tarn
• City of Brass
• Mana Confluence
• Ancient Tomb
• Prismatic Vista
• Fabled Passage
• Gemstone Caverns
• Gemstone Mine
• Strip Mine
• Wasteland
• Tarnished Citadel (ehhh maybe not)
• Reflecting Pool

• Exotic Orchard

• Yeah some of these are on the expensive side, but as you progress with your deck, I do recommend checking them out (maybe not Volcanic Island though XD)! However, I do have a couple more suggestions. Lets look at your ramp. You do have some pretty good ones, especially Lotus Petal, but I may have a couple of better ones I'd consider adding. Now I wouldn't add all of these, but maybe the ones you like, can afford, and work with your deck. Particularly the first seven.

• Ruby Medallion

• Sapphire Medallion
• Mana Vault
• Mana Crypt
• Chrome Mox
• Extraplanar Lens
• Cloud Key
• Mox Diamond
• Fellwar Stone
• Thran Dynamo
• Gilded Lotus

Now usually that's all I help people with, but I can't help but noticing you don't run a Ophidian Eye! It could be a whole other wincon since it goes infinite, and I'd definitely recommend it to all Niv Mizzet players, right along side curisoity and tandem lookout which you already run.

So in the end, I definitely would consider most of the ramp, nearly all the lands, and definitely ophidian. I promise your deck will perform MUCH better with these additions, and though some of them are investments, they are VERY helpful. If this does help you be sure to check out and upvote some of my decks, I would appreciate it! (Double Trouble EDH)! Anyways, I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day!

Lokotor on Marchesa, The Black Rose - Primer

2 months ago

Charlielx

Obvious upgrades would be things like Volcanic Island, Underground Sea, Badlands, Scalding Tarn, Prismatic Vista, Morphic Pool, Luxury Suite, Fiery Islet, etc. Ancient Tomb also would probably be a reasonable add.

As for more impactful upgrades, I would like to get a Toxic Deluge at some point, but it's never been a priority buy for me at ~$35. If I had a second Damnation that might also be something i'd consider adding.

Arcane Signet is marginally better than Fellwar Stone but not enough that I really feel like spending $7.

Fierce Guardianship is also a relatively good addition, since protecting Marchesa is important. Similar free counters are a bit harder to run in this shell given their various restrictions (eg actually having a blue card for FoW isn't as reliable)

Spellseeker could be worth trying out

jeannieboef

I think for card draw, the best options would be either Necropotence or Yawgmoth, Thran Physician depending on what the rest of your hand looks like. (number of black sources and/or creatures primarily) Yawgmoth is probably the less threatening option between the two, and also more useful throughout the course of the game as he's also a sacrifice outlet, so he'll kill two birds with one stone for you.

If you have a sacrifice outlet in hand then you could go for either Baleful Strix or Solemn Simulacrum, depending on what you're looking to get out of them. they'll provide you with a lot of value in the earlier parts of the game. notably strix is a good option since at CMC2 you can get it out early and really be able to capitalize on the card draw (not to mention it's a great blocker.) and solemn obviously has the advantage of also being ramp. it's mostly a tempo call here though.

For your second question, it depends mostly on what I need the ramp for. If I just want to have some extra mana for my next turn's play, then sol ring is fine. If I've got a source of draw, or a hand full of higher CMC threats like Wurmcoil Engine or Nicol Bolas, the Ravager  ^Flip or Dictate of Erebos or something, then Scroll of Fate is good since it'll let me flash them in for free, essentially. if it's more in the earlier part of the game and i'm looking to just get a strong start/lead, then Solemn Simulacrum is great since it'll not only provide me with up to 7 more lands, but also plenty of card draw. (especially if i can pair it with Arcbound Worker for free counters on every other player's turn.) Dockside Extortionist isn't always a great turn 1-4 play, but depending on the table it'll give you a ton of mana, especially if you can do it a few times in a row.

on your last question, like always, it depends. the board has been wiped, but depending on where i'm at, things vary. are all creatures dead but i still have all my artifacts/enchantments? did i pull a classic marchesa move and come out with all my creatures still in play? was it just a weakly positioned enemy Cyclonic Rift that left everyone equally empty?

the deck largely plays by way of card synergy, so there's not quite a one stop win card, generally you'll need a card that creates value, AND a card that takes advantage of that value, so you'll have to base the decision on which pieces you have and which ones can best take advantage of it.

if you run Goblin Bombardment then Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Glen Elendra Archmage are an obvious combo target, if you've got something like Arcbound Worker or Unspeakable Symbol out then you could quickly create a huge army of Wurmcoil Engine tokens to lock the game down with. (on a clear board, having a 6/6 and 8 3/3s with lifelink and Deathtouch is usually gg.) if you've got Grave Pact then you could look for a sacrifice outlet, or something to easily recur to lock out the table.

Wurmcoil Engine is the most powerful creature in the deck as far as individual threats go, so with nothing else on board at all, that would probably be my pick, but i think if you're ever in that position then you're probably not going to win that game regardless.

TriusMalarky on Lands choice

2 months ago

Glad I could help!

Of course, that's just a 5-minute rundown. There are theoretically infinite situations in which you'd rather have fetchshock, and same for not having fetchshock.

For instance, if you're actively milling yourself and/or removing cards from your deck, then fetches aren't as good because there's a chance that they'll fizzle because the best shock isn't there. But if you have Life from the Loam you like fetches to make sure you hit your land drops. Which means the Dredge archetype, while it wants some fetches, should also be using a manabase that functions fairly well without fetch-shocking, so they have to create a weird manabase that accommodates both aspects.

I'd also say that sometimes, painlands are actually better than unfetchable versions of the og duals(Shivan Reef v Volcanic Island). There are situations where they are just better -- and situations in which they're terrible.

Also note that filter lands(Mystic Gate and friends) immediately lose to Damping Sphere.

One more note: budget really influences your manabase. Most of the time, it is correct to go fetch-shock. I'd say fetchshockcheck is the best for your average 2 color deck(example for UW: 4x Flooded Strand, 2x Hallowed Fountain, 4x Glacial Fortress). This is because most decks in modern really benefit from fetches. In fact, a lot of the cards on the modern banlist would be fine if fetches didn't exist. Additionally, a lot of the best cards in Modern are only all that good because Fetches exist. Think Fatal Push. Even Tireless Tracker is far less powerful without fetches.

arcane_trouper on MagicalHacker - List of All Good Colorfixing Lands

2 months ago

I agree that Urburg turns other non-swamps into color fixing lands. But it's not just basic lands it helps; it even turns non-black producing color fixing lands into even better color fixing lands. What's better than an ABU Volcanic Island? A "Swampy" Volcanoc Island.

What other utility does Urburg have besides color fixing?

TypicalTimmy on Winota of Drannith

3 months ago

Check out the rulings for Volcanic Island on Gatherer, where it states that just because a land has the basic land subtypes does not make it a basic land itself.

Basic is a supertype. You are looking for a land with the supertype "Basic" when you use cards such as Evolving Wilds.

Destroyerbirb on SILENCE, Please.

3 months ago

Nice deck! I would recommend the following changes;

Swap the 3x Dark Betrayal and 1x Beseech the Queen in the mainboard for the 4x Opt in the sideboard.

Cut 3 lands for 3x Snapcaster Mage.

Change some of the basics and maybe even the Fetid Pools and Canyon Sloughs for lands the Alpha Duals in your colours (Badlands, Underground Sea and Volcanic Island), or, for a more budget friendly option, the Shock Lands from Ravnica in your colours (Blood Crypt, Steam Vents and Watery Grave).

DemMeowsephs on Niv-Mizzet, Minigun Mode

4 months ago

Nice deck! I would consider gving your land section an upgrade. Maybe consider cutting some of the tapped ones for some of these!

• Sulfur Falls
• Spirebluff Canal
• Shivan Reef
• Fiery Islet
• Volcanic Island
• Prismatic Vista
• Ancient Tomb
• Fabled Passage
• Exotic Orchard
• Forbidden Orchard
• Reflecting Pool
• Gemstone Mine
• City of Brass

• Mana Confluence

• I noticed you have Scalding Tarn, Cascade Bluffs, and Steam Vents. besides these and the obvious stapels (Command Tower, Reliquary Tower, and the basics, I would honestly cut all the other lands, for ones above. It would make your deck perform WAYYYYY better, that I can guarantee. Anyways, if this does help be sure to upvote and possibly give me feedback on my deck: Double Trouble EDH, I would appreciate it! So hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day!

greyninja on Nekusar

4 months ago

Looks fun +1 from me

I'd suggest you include 32-37 lands. Anything under 30 will be really tough. The 8-10 pieces of ramp you have is decent, but you will struggle without enough lands. I usually auto-include 36 lands, unless I have like 12-20 pieces of ramp

Budget options would be Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Crumbling Necropolis, Bloodfell Caves, Swiftwater Cliffs, Dismal Backwater, Sunken Hollow, etc

High cost: Steam Vents, Watery Grave, Blood Crypt, Fabled Passage, Prismatic Vista, Polluted Delta, Bloodstained Mire, etc

Expensive af: Scalding Tarn, Badlands, Underground Sea, Volcanic Island