Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite

Legendary Creature — Praetor

Vigilance

Other creatures you control get +2/+2.

Creatures your opponents control get -2/-2.

Discussion (46)

DevoMelvminster on Bounce and Ye Shall Be Healed

2 weeks ago

Lots of changes in this revision:

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is out for Heliod, Sun-Crowned . Heliod will make things bigger and bigger as we gain life, which may help us with a combat win, which is all Elesh norn really did, but also can stack a ton of counters on one creature to sac to Altar of Dementia . Yay mill wins!

Cavalier of Dawn is out for Skyclave Apparition . Apparition was a great suggestion by muddbones and is more abusable than Cavalier. Lowers the cmc curve, and I am not going to miss the possible enchantment recurral. We got that covered.

Odric, Lunarch Marshal is out for Mardu Woe-Reaper . Odric helps with combat wins, but Akroma's Will does it better, and doubles as protection. I hardly ever swing for the win anyways, and the reaper is another cheap creature, and it’s ability will be triggered by ever zombie God-Eternal Oketra makes. Should keep graveyards nice and empty and help against decks that rely on them being filled. Did I mention it gains us LIFE too? Sweet card.

Return to Dust was dropped for Suture Priest . I keep going back and forth with Return... I’ll probably find another spot for it, since I’m a but light on non-creature removal anyways, but for now I wanted more Soul Warden effects. The bonus damage to opponents is nice too.

Austere Command and a Plains were dropped for Ancient Den and Flagstones of Trokair . Den is mostly for turning on Inventors' Fair to tutor out a win, and flagstones synergizes really well with Lotus Field .

Still thinking about adding Test of Endurance or Felidar Sovereign but not sure where. Let me know what y’all think of the changes.

sleepcuck on Avacyn, Angel of Hope

2 weeks ago

thanks for all those suggestions Lanzo493 and ya I found out Iona, Shield of Emeria was banned Just after I bought the last card I was missing. Also I'll defiantly put in Ondu Inversion  ^Flip in there and possibly Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite . cvarena21989 sure put some land destruction in there.

Lanzo493 on Avacyn, Angel of Hope

2 weeks ago

In the past few years, there have been a lot of nice new angels. Archangel of Tithes , Lyra Dawnbringer , and Emeria Shepherd are some of them. Smothering Tithe is a fantastic newer card. Generous Gift is a great piece of interaction. Hour of Revelation is a strong boardwipe that we got a few years back. I like Ondu Inversion  ^Flip, too, since it's a land and doesn't take up deckspace if you replace a plains. Akroma's Will can be a great finisher. Urza's Incubator and Herald's Horn are great ramp for an angel tribal deck, if that's what you want to go for. If you're not hung up on angels, I'd say Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite fits the stax theme well.

psionictemplar on Is there a reason why Armageddon is Good??

2 weeks ago

This reminds me of champions of kamigawa era, when people would use Lifespark Spellbomb and Eradicate (iirc) together. Side note, you could also wrath like this with an Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite and the natural affinity.

bamoli on Sisay's Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Friends

3 weeks ago

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Thought you'd appreciate the true singleton format for this one. As for why Vorinclex, well it seems like Spike and Timmy have helped you figure that out ;)

Urza's Ruinous Blast and Primevals' Glorious Rebirth : Originally these were contestants, but this started out as a Party Matters deck (Wizard, Cleric, Warrior, Rogues) but I ended up not having enough of a balance of those types to warrant focusing heavily on the mechanic.

Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain : The point of the deck is to not cast the legendary spells. Also, she has her own deck.

Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage : This is one that was cut after deciding I had too many Wizards when I was still looking at Party Matters. Might warrant revisiting.

Kamahl's Druidic Vow : The primary reason this isn't in the deck is I don't have it. Otherwise I dunno what I'd cut.

Marchesa, the Black Rose and Shalai, Voice of Plenty : Damn that's a good combo. I'll need to source a Marchesa, but I have a Shalai coming in the Secret Lair drop. WHAT TO CUT?!

Day of Destiny : Don't has. Would be glorious w/ Arvad the Cursed .

Anafenza, the Foremost : Similarly, don't has. Will have to source as it's glorious.

Blackblade Reforged : Too many other good options to include this, unfortunately.

Heroes' Podium : I really like this one. Didn't know it existed. Will have to source.

Farseek : No idea what to cut. Also probably didn't find it when going through cards and was giving priority to LEGENDS

Thran Temporal Gateway : I've no excuse as to why this ain't in except that I wanted to use Sisay to cheat, not anything else. Which isn't a good excuse but it is mine.

Fblthp, the Lost : Wow yeah I do need one of these.

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite : Wouldn't go in here anyway. She'd go into Mono-White. And I'm not gonna get my hopes up on getting more than one.

Avacyn, Angel of Hope : If I had an extra, lol. She's basically an auto-include in any white deck.

Sigarda, Host of Herons : See above.

Eerie Ultimatum : Another card that...I wish I had.

Ruinous Ultimatum : Ehh,, I feel like one ultimatum is a bit much for the deck and I'd rather Eerie.

Weatherlight : Valid point. Now, ugh gotta figure out how to fit it in.

Legacy Weapon : Bad Vorthos. Bad.

Rhystic Study : Bad Spike. Bad

Curiosity : ...bad Johnny, bad.

griffstick on Are there any old cards …

1 month ago

Erza420 I see your point but I'm the token deck I likely destroyed creatures my opponent controlled that were much more scary than ones I have. They could have say for instance a Beast Whisperer , a Eternal Witness , a God-Eternal Rhonas , and a Voracious Hydra . And I have 10 1/1 soldier tokens, a Selvala, Explorer Returned and a 0/1 eldrazi token. I cast March of Souls and basically replace all those creatures with 1/1 flyers. Now that player has downgraded to 5 1/1 flyers and I have not downgraded and stayed then same with 12 1/1 flyers. But I'm a token deck I prepared for the wipe. So I have casted Cathars' Crusade prior to it. Or I casted Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite the next turn. Or I had Doubling Season out before casting March of Souls . Or I cast Beastmaster Ascension befor I attack with them. This is why it's perfect Erza420 and that's why more people should be playing it in the right token deck and build.

AgileFlame on Mirror march and Elesh norn, …

1 month ago

Say my opponent has 2, 6/6 creatures on the field and I have a Mirror March . I then play Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , mirror march triggers and I win 2 coin flips giving me 2 copies of Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , applying -6/-6 to my opponents creatures.

My question is would my opponent's creatures die before (or at the same time that) the legend rule takes place and removes 2 of the Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite 's?

Starsky2814 on Omnath, A Song of Creation and Chaos

2 months ago

Omniscience_is_life, there is a possibility that I include Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath again. Especially since I just preordered the secret lair version the other day. I could remove Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite since that is my flex card.