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Darksteel Ingot Discussion
3 months ago
Hey, well done on a budget for your first Commander deck. I'm having fun with Veyran with Kalamax, the Stormsire .
You have 111 cards which is too many. Cards to consider cutting to get to 100 cards:
- Temple of the False God : you don't have any land ramp, only relying on land drops to get five or more lands. This land will not be able to tap for mana until turn five or six at the earliest which is really bad.
- Sphinx-Bone Wand : it's too slow for the for payoff even with Veyran. It's seven mana and you then have to cast an instant or sorcery to put a counter on it.
- Siren of the Fanged Coast : five mana 4/4 flier is what this will be every time you cast it which is subpar.
- Brass's Bounty : not worth seven mana for treasures since you don't want to ramp into it. Need at least six lands in your control to make paying seven mana worth six treasures.
- Curator's Ward : you have better hexproof protection (Greaves/Boots) for Veyran.
- Selective Snare : narrow sorcery speed removal since only works on one creature type.
- Violent Impact
- Traitorous Blood
- Darksteel Ingot
- Jori En, Ruin Diver
Some budget cards to consider adding:
- Reiterate : combos with Mana Geyser to make infinite red mana as long as opponents have seven or more tapped lands. Buyback is nice when you want to be casting instants since it lets you after resolving it put it back into your hand to cast again. Mana enablers Storm-Kiln Artist and Birgi, God of Storytelling Flip are excellent with buyback.
Buyback is the reason that Reiterate can be a infinite combo with Geyser. After copying Geyser with Reiterate you resolve the copy of Geyser first and then resolve the original Reiterate which puts it back into your hand. While the original Geyser is still on the stack cast Reiterate again to copy the original Geyser and repeat. Can make infinite storm count for
, infinite cast of instant for
Ral, Storm Conduit
or infinite mana for
Jaya's Immolating Inferno
as win conditions.
- Solve the Equation : tutor for any instant or sorcery.
- Saheeli, Sublime Artificer
- Frantic Search : goes well with High Tide since it can untap lands. Being able to cast an instant to draw and then untap lands lets you potentially cast another instant that you may of drawn to get more out of Veyran and magecraft.
- Brainstorm : staple blue draw spell, instant draw three for one mana.
- Increasing Vengeance : copy your own instant or sorcery. Has flashback which lets you cast it again from your graveyard and if you do copy your own instant or sorcery twice.
- Preordain : Scry 2 before you draw is nice. One mana spell that's a good target to copy.
- Wizard's Retort : Veyran is a Wizard.
- Shivan Reef
- Ash Barrens
- Grixis Panorama
If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
4 months ago
Ok so the changes i made are-
Out- Birds of Paradise , Manaweft Sliver , Leyline Prowler , Yavimaya Elder , Capricopian , Seedborn Muse , Chromatic Lantern , Darksteel Ingot , Replicating Ring , Gilded Lotus , Opulent Palace , Winged Temple of Orazca
I forgot i wanted Worldly tutor and Parallel Lives in the deck.
Check the new build/stats and gimme yer thoughts.
4 months ago
Seriously though, this looks sweet as hell. The infinite mana angle seems nasty, but not overly pushed, which should lead to good gameplay. Freed from the Real tends to be a surprisingly loud threat and my guess is that it's likely going to be a bit too greedy, especially considering you have fairly limited protection. Pemmin's Aura is good enough because the protection is built-in, and the added evasion will help you close some games. I've also found that cards like this tend to suffer quite a bit to the Chaos Orb s in our meta but YMMV.
The first thing that stood out to me was that you have significantly less interaction than you typically play, and I'd bet that it'll feel a bit uncomfortable having to be so selective with your answers. I'd recommend adding Windgrace's Judgment and Assassin's Trophy to improve your flexible removal, and some number of Erebos's Intervention , Battle at the Bridge , Profane Command , and Black Sun's Zenith to up your creature removal and creature count (Hydra tokens) at the same time. Also, these do really well against indestructible threats (cough Blightsteel Colossus + Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger cough) like gods and such.
You could probably also use another counterspell or two, but if you don't want to lean too hard that direction, that's understandable.
The second main thing I noticed is your mana ramp package—I'd look at it fairly critically and consider your goals. For example, I'd keep all creatures that tap for 2 or more mana ( Bloom Tender , Incubation Druid , Selvala, Heart of the Wilds ) as they give you more paths to going infinite. I'd cut the ones that only make 1 mana ( Birds of Paradise , Manaweft Sliver , Leyline Prowler ) as they tend to be a bit of a liability compared to land fetch spells and you aren't inherently taking advantage of the fact that they are creatures.
I'd also focus on the curve of your mana ramp. I think you should prioritize 2 cost spells like the three on-color signets, and the land fetch spells Nature's Lore , Farseek , Rampant Growth , and Sakura-Tribe Elder . Swapping these for your 3-5 cost mana ramp will give you more chances to cast Zaxara on turn 3 and get the ball rolling on both bigger mana and generating hydras. The way I see it, you could have a signet + Zaxara to use on turn 5 or spend that same turn casting a Gilded Lotus which is the same mana output but a turn slower. Basalt Monolith is the exception here as it goes infinite.
The final thing I'd encourage is to play more land. You really need to always hit Zaxara early for your deck to do it's thing, and maximizing your potential to consistently hit 4 mana on curve is going to pay dividends. At 34 I'd say you're 2-3 short of what I'd recommend for a mana-hungry deck like this, and you're actually at 33 right now because Winged Temple of Orazca starts as a Hadana's Climb Flip and likely shouldn't be counted as a land.
Here are the baseline swaps I'd recommend:
Out - Birds of Paradise - Manaweft Sliver - Leyline Prowler - Yavimaya Elder - Freed from the Real - Capricopian - Seedborn Muse - Chromatic Lantern - Darksteel Ingot - Replicating Ring - Gilded Lotus - Opulent Palace
In + 2 Forest + 1 Island + 1 Swamp + Farseek + Nature's Lore + Sakura-Tribe Elder + Golgari Signet + Simic Signet + Dimir Signet + Profane Command / Erebos's Intervention + Windgrace's Judgment / Assassin's Trophy
These aren't super exciting changes but they'll massively help your initial consistency. I'd play the deck a buch before deciding what swaps would be best beyond this.
Stoked to see the deck in action!
4 months ago
Made a number of updates - 20 cards changed in total including commander (Roon removed in favor of Chulane):
Removed Roon of the Hidden Realm , 3x Island , 2x Forest , 2x Plains , Selesnya Signet , Simic Signet , Telling Time , Brainstorm , Ponder , Preordain , Foresee , Time Reversal , Terminus , Kiora, the Crashing Wave , Tamiyo, Field Researcher , Darksteel Ingot , and Terastodon
Added: Chulane, Teller of Tales , 2x Snow-Covered Island , 2x Snow-Covered Plains , 2x Snow-Covered Forest , Flooded Grove , Arcane Signet , Teferi's Ageless Insight , Tatyova, Benthic Druid , Ice-Fang Coatl , Reveillark , Prime Speaker Zannifar, Brago, King Eternal , Vesperlark , Glen Elendra Archmage , Seedborn Muse , Soulherder , Beast Whisperer , and Commander's Sphere
4 months ago
Hey! Sounds like you have two cool decks brewing!
I'd recommend playing around 37-39 lands in a deck like this! Your average mana curve is between 5 and 7 mana, meaning that you really want to play a land every turn for the first 4-5 in addition to your ramp so you can start playing your big creatures!
On the first look, I'd suggest cutting the following:
Also some minor budget upgrades: I'd switch out Manalith for something like Pristine Talisman or Darksteel Ingot , as it acts like a manalith with an upside. And Trading Post is an awesome utility card that just does a little bit of everything!
Also, with your abundance of big mana producing rocks, Voltaic Key and Manifold Key accelerate your plan further, so maybe cut some of the more expensive creatures that produce mana for a few of these smaller cmc stuff!
Good luck with your brew!
4 months ago
and first off: i updated the description a bit, so some things i didnt mention and i feel might be a concern of yours, are better shown.
I will definitely look for Hoarding Dragon , Shared Summons and i might have an Inventors' Fair lying around. Kuldotha Forgemaster is a card i purposefully did not include, since i think it would scream combo time to loud (he plays it himself a lot).
The thing is i dont want it to be too obvious and too focused on that combo win. I want him to play a few games and eventually stumble upon it. Hoarding Dragon is a nice flying body as well, so it would camouflage nicely as a value creature. Nantuko Elder and buddies also might have a place. Though i want the animated mana rocks to play role still.
Arcane Signet could be added in, i just didnt see the necessity in two coloured decks. But, is a valid suggestion. Chromatic Lantern i dont think i want to get, the list already did cost me a bit both in cards i added from my own collection and money. Also since the commander makes artifacts and the deck is somewhat vulnerable to artifact removal, i like Darksteel Ingot a lot in here.
Another instant artifact removal like Ancient Grudge would be good, i agree.