Hissing Quagmire enters the battlefield tapped.
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: Hissing Quagmire becomes a 2/2 black and green Elemental creature with deathtouch until end of turn. It's still a land.
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Hissing Quagmire Discussion
3 weeks ago
It's a solid start, but there are a couple of changes I would make, first, drop damnation, it's about 35% of your budget and only so, so in this deck. Next I would have a look at your removal packages (over the last year standard has done wanders for budget options)
I would seriously consider Bonecrusher Giant as a solid body and nice removal. It's a really nice hit by bloodbraid due to its duel nature
And Vraska, Golgari Queen it's a card draw engin late game and normally 2 abrupt decays. Which is always welcome.
I would also consider 2 copy's of Chevill, Bane of Monsters as he's solid card advantage and your offen going to be killing stuff.
As your not running dark confident or goyf your probably should be running 2 Tasigur, the Golden Fang as it's a solid mid game beater and late game card advantage engin.
Stone rain is ok but far from ideal in this deck, offen it's a do nothing card.
Also if your running blighting I'm a big fan of Chandra, Acolyte of Flame as she's basically a 2 snap casters mages. (She dose need some help for teh double red mana but it's with the range of workability)
On the subject of plainswalkers apart fro vraska (which is your best budget option) your other solid options are Domri, Anarch of Bolas , ramps, protects against control lists, it pumps and it removes stuff. He's probably the best option. After that there's also Liliana, Waker of the Dead (as close to lilly of veil as where going to get) and Nissa of Shadowed Boughs who is deceptively good over a long Grindy match, bringing back your best creature with counters, and being triggered twice a turn but evolving wilds.
Hope some of this helps.
4 months ago
Also, one or two Hissing Quagmire could be good for beat downs on turns you have nothing to do. Plus a great blocker since they have deathtouch.
6 months ago
Very nice. Just before I start talking about cuts and edits, I want to say that your land count is WAY too low. I usually play 35-36 lands, with about 5-10 other mana producers. Only CEDH decks run such a low land count, because they need to play fast with cards like Mana Crypt and such. Add more lands to the deck.
I will start with talking about cuts, because there are a few cards that I feel shouldn't be in the deck.
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is known for being a wincon in CEDH and strategies that want to mill themselves out. However, it's not right here. There is no real upside to adding it to the deck, so this is an obvious cut.
Thirst for Knowledge: I'm not sure why you put this one here. It doesn't work well due to you having such a low artifact count. Also, it's only a one time card draw, which isn't too good in commander. I guess Chemister's Insight goes in this section as well.
Finale of Revelation can be a good card, but it's mainly used as an infinite mana sink. I would not recommend this in a deck that doesn't go infinite and focuses on creatures.
Nyx Weaver is getting worse and worse. It has gotten to the point where it's nigh unplayable. Cut.
Clone, despite being the original clone, is considered to be one of the worst. I would definitely cut this one out.
I know Nascent Metamorph is a fun card, but people overestimate what this card can do. Don't play it in any non-chaos build.
Mirror Shield? Just don't run it.
Ok, so those are the 10 cards I would cut. Now, adding cards is a bit harder. In my suggestions for the forum for this deck, I suggested a reanimator theme, but it looked like you didn't take it, so I won't add too many cards from reanimator strategies. Also, it looks like you are working on a "budget", so I won't suggest anything over ~$20.
Just a quick note; When people are making these clone strategies, they often forget to put enough creatures to copy. This is a common deck building mistake, but something that will cost you games.
As Jimmy showed in the latest "Game Knights" episode, Solemn Simulacrum is crazy in clone decks, and seconds as ramp and card draw.
Finally, speaking about ramp, Rampant Growth is still one of the best ramp cards in the game.
Now, you may have noticed I only suggested 5 cards when I cut 10, and that's because you need to raise your land count. Below are some budget but good lands you should work with. Also, try not to work with too many tap lands, as they slow your game down.
Zagoth Triome: A bit pricy but it's fetchable or can be used to dig through your deck.
Finally, I will recommend my favorite cycle of lands, the pain lands. Llanowar Wastes, Yavimaya Coast, and their more expensive sibling Underground River enter untapped and add any of the two mana you need.
Just cut some basics to add these lands in. But don't cut too many basics! You need about 12 basics at minimum in a casual deck!
If you want to look any further into the clones strategy, take a look at EDHREC's page for clone strategies. (https://edhrec.com/themes/clones)
I like how you chose some interesting cards I have never seen before, and this deck looks fun to play. I hope these suggestions were of some help to you.
7 months ago
10 months ago
Cool deck! You might like these: Animist's Awakening, Kamahl's Druidic Vow, Traverse the Outlands, Squandered Resources, Lotus Cobra, Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Shared Summons, Alhammarret's Archive, Memorial to Unity, Memorial to Folly, Embodiment of Fury, Embodiment of Insight, Hissing Quagmire, Lavaclaw Reaches, Raging Ravine, Waker of the Wilds (strongly recommend this last one. once Om is out, you can pay to pop a land, dealing 3 damage and creating a bigger elemental)
11 months ago
Golgari Rot Farm, Hissing Quagmire, Jungle Hollow, Khalni Garden, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, and Temple of Malady would be immediate cuts from me. I'd run things like City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Overgrown Tomb, Forbidden Orchard, and fetches instead (if you can afford them).
1 year ago
Don't forget the manlands. Including the Zendikar cycle (with Celestial Colonnade, Hissing Quagmire, etc), the monocolor cycle (with Treetop Village, etc), and the other ones (Mutavault, Inkmoth Nexus, etc).