Sunken Hollow

Land — Island Swamp

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This enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or more basic lands.

Discussion (41)

multimedia on First Is The Best! (An EDH First Sliver Deck)

1 week ago

Hey, well done with your budget version of First.

Some budget upgrades to consider:

• Arcane Signet --> Pillar of Origins
• Fellwar Stone --> Rampant Growth
• Profane Tutor --> Shadow Sliver
• Patriarch's Bidding --> Spinneret Sliver
• Vivien, Champion of the Wilds --> Door to Nothingness
• Cinder Glade --> 1x Forest
• Canopy Vista --> 1x Plains
• Prairie Stream --> 1x Island
• Sunken Hollow --> 1x Swamp
• Smoldering Marsh --> 1x Mountain

Arcane Signet is a staple mana rock in Commander and especially good when playing five colors. Profane Tutor is a budget tutor that has interaction with cascade because it's CMC is 0. Patriarch's Bidding is quick recovery from a board wipe by reanimating all Slivers in your graveyard. Vivien, Champion of the Wilds is another flash effect for Slivers and it has other uses too since playing lots of creatures.

What makes Farseek a good ramp spell is when it can search for a dual land that has two or more basic land types such as Cinder Glade. If all you have is a basic land that Farseek can search for then it's subpar ramp, worse than Rampant Growth. Tango lands: Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, Prairie Stream, Sunken Hollow, Smoldering Marsh are budget and Farseek can search for one of them.

Shadow Sliver is a budget Shifting Sliver and since you have Shifting you don't also need Shadow. Not being able to block with Slivers can be a problem, not able to defend against opponents swingback. Spinneret Sliver is a just a worse effect then giving all Slivers flying.

multimedia on Legends of Death [WIP]

3 weeks ago

Hey, you could bring some more consistency by playing some 4 ofs (4x of cards) of important Zombies you want to consistently cast early each game.

An example:

• 4x Gravecrawler
• 4x Undead Augur
• 4x Diregraf Captain
• 4x Headless Rider

Having the same amount of Islands as Swamps could be problematic because you need black mana much more than blue mana to cast Zombies. 4x Tainted Isle and 4x Sunken Hollow replacing Islands would help. More dual lands replacing Islands would bring more consistency of drawing a black source while not reducing the amount of blue sources in the manabase. Sunken Hollow has interaction with both Drowned Catacomb and Tainted Isle because it's a Swamp.

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on The Zerg 2.0 - cEDH

3 weeks ago

Hey, the CQ decklist is missing Cloudshredder Sliver, who's one of the best budget Slivers especially when Hivelord is Commander. It's missing Harmonic Sliver, who's excellent repeatable removal in multiplayer Commander. Tempered Sliver is good with Hivelord as Commander since it can make him bigger with counters. Blasphemous Act wrecks opponents creatures when Hivelord is Commander, consistently for one mana. Swiftfoot Boots gives Hivelord extra protection, combining indestructible and hexproof makes it very difficult for opponents to remove Hivelord.

• Cloudshredder Sliver --> Muscle Sliver
• Harmonic Sliver --> Steelform Sliver
• Tempered Sliver --> Watcher Sliver
• Swiftfoot Boots --> Quilled Sliver
• Blasphemous Act --> Fumigate

Sol Ring is less price than Wayfarer's Bauble and much better ramp. Arcane Signet, Fellwar Stone and Commander's Sphere are budget five color mana rocks.

• Sol Ring --> Wayfarer's Bauble
• Arcane Signet --> Sphere of the Suns
• Fellwar Stone --> Armillary Sphere
• Commander's Sphere --> Pillar of Origins

The manabases in all CQ decklists are an afterthought, no Command Tower, they're terrible especially with five colors. Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, Unclaimed Territory, Path of Ancestry are all budget lands for five colors with Slivers. The five Tango lands: Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, Prairie Stream, Sunken Hollow, Smoldering Marsh are budget and nice when playing 15+ basic lands. The Tango lands help with color fixing and make Farseek, Mountain Valley and Rocky Tar Pit better since they can search for one of them.

• Command Tower --> Warped Landscape
• Exotic Orchard --> Blighted Woodland
• Unclaimed Territory --> Jund Panorama
• Path of Ancestry --> Grixis Panorama
• Cinder Glade --> 1x Forest
• Canopy Vista --> 1x Plains
• Prairie Stream --> 1x Plains
• Sunken Hollow --> 1x Forest

Good luck with the upgrading.

multimedia on Aminatou, child of the jank

1 month ago

Hey, well done so far on a budget.

Some suggestions to improve the manabase on a budget.

• Exotic Orchard --> Transguild Promenade
• Arcane Sanctum --> Dimir Guildgate
• Caves of Koilos --> Forsaken Sanctuary
• Prairie Stream --> Silverquill Campus
• Sunken Hollow --> Submerged Boneyard
• Mystic Sanctuary --> Jwar Isle Refuge
• Port Town --> 1x Swamp
• Choked Estuary --> 1x Swamp

Good luck with your deck.

zapyourtumor on Mill help!

1 month ago

Wtf wallis again

Anyways, wallis already covered most of what I was going to suggest (namely cutting the slow cards, going 8crab, adding Fatal Push and Drown in the Loch) although to be honest I'm surprised that they are running Maddening Cacophony over Tasha.

If you want some repeatable mill, I don't recommend stuff like Isochron Scepter which is very mana intensive, and stuff like Fraying Sanity which relies on your other mill spells. Mesmeric Orb should be your go to. It isn't run in a lot of the most competitive mill lists anymore, but the card is still quite strong.

Since most of your 3+ cmc permanents are slow anyways, I recommend cutting them all and running Lurrus of the Dream-Den as companion. It gives you a free card and can help you recur dead crabs, or maybe a destroyed Mesmeric Orb.

For the manabase, I assume you want to keep it somewhat budget, but there are still some good options for dual lands I think you should consider. Sunken Hollow is decent but becomes worse if you run more other duals. Fetid Pools has cycling for when you're manaflooded. Temple of Deceit is a tapland also but lets you filter a bit. I thougth the midnight hunt slow lands would be cheap (most are like 2-3 bucks) but for some reason Shipwreck Marsh is 9 bucks so.

multimedia on No don’t kill my Slivers.

2 months ago

Hey, well done on a budget while having Overlord, First, Legion and Hivelord. The area of your deck that needs the most improvements is the manabase and lands are my first budget suggestions to consider.

Exotic Orchard, Unclaimed Territory and Path of Ancestry are three more Rainbow lands. The five Battle lands have good interaction with lots of basic lands: Canopy Vista, Cinder Glade, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream and Smoldering Marsh. You're better off playing more Tri lands than the Thriving lands: Jungle Shrine, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel, Crumbling Necropolis, Opulent Palace, etc.

A Tri land gives you three choices of colors, not two, which is better when playing five colors. Being able to choose the second color with a Thriving land is nice, but with five colors not as good as having three choices. If you have the Pathways then that's good, but if not they're too expensive price for lands for five colors since you can only choose one color of mana with them. The Battle lands could replace them.

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Cloudshredder Sliver is a two drop Sliver that gives flying and haste, it's one of the best Slivers. Shifting Sliver makes all Sliver unblockable unless an opponent controls some Slivers. Quick Sliver lets you cast Slivers at instant speed during your opponents turns or at any point of the game. Flash is excellent with The First Sliver getting to cascade at instant speed is powerful because the card you cast from cascade doesn't have timing restrictions meaning you can cast any card.

Crypt Sliver can protect Slivers from most board wipes, from removal that destroys, from dying in combat from damage and interacts well with vigilance from Sentinel Sliver. Hibernation Sliver can protect from all board wipes, other removal most importantly exile for the cost of 2 life each Sliver.

Hibernation interacts well with The First Sliver by bouncing it as well as other Slivers to cast again and cascade again. Dormant Sliver has nice interaction with Hibernation because Dormant can draw a ton of cards and when you want to attack with Slivers bounce Dormant with Hibernation.

Diffusion Sliver helps to protect Slivers from targeted removal, making an opponent have to pay two more mana to target a Sliver. Striking Sliver is another one drop Sliver and first strike is nice to have when attacking.

Amoeboid Changeling is a Sliver because Changelings are all creature types even when in your hand, library or graveyard. Amoebiod has really good interaction with Sliver Overlord because Overlord can gain control of a Sliver. Amoeboid can make any opponent's creature who you can target a Sliver and then Overlord can gain control of that creature permanently. This is especially powerful to gain control of opponents Commanders. These two combine to gain control of all your opponents creatures over a course of many turns. Because Amoeboid is a Silver while in your library then Overlord can tutor for it.

If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on Sliver Beats

3 months ago

Hey, well done budget version of Silvers, nice Sliver Legion. You forgot Sol Ring.

Manaweft Sliver is another two drop mana Sliver. Shifting Sliver makes all your Slivers unblockable. Venom Sliver gives all deathtouch. These three Slivers could replace three of the higher CMC Slivers that have redundant effects. Blasphemous Act wrecks your opponents with Hivelord as Commander.

• Sol Ring --> Universal Automaton
• Manaweft Sliver --> Groundshaker Sliver
• Shifting Sliver --> First Sliver's Chosen
• Venom Sliver --> Fury Sliver
• Blasphemous Act --> Lymph Sliver

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Consider more draw?

• Reconnaissance Mission
• Elemental Bond: if you control an anthem effect, that effect counts to increase the power of a Silver who ETB. Many Slivers only need one anthem effect to have 3 power.
• Return of the Wildspeaker
• Brainstorm
• Pact of the Serpent
• Distant Melody
• Painful Truths

Wild Pair and Pyre of Heroes are powerful budget repeatable effects to tutor for and cheat Silvers on the battlefield.

Consider cutting a few of the lesser Slivers for more draw?

• Reconnaissance Mission --> Fungus Sliver
• Wild Pair --> Watcher Sliver
• Pyre of Heroes --> Talon Sliver
• Elemental Bond --> Steelform Sliver
• Return of the Wildspeaker --> Evolution Charm

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Nice Shock lands. On a budget you can do better than the Gain lands such as Blossoming Sands and Cycle lands such as Sheltered Thicket. Consider the Tango lands? Since there's 14 basic lands here.

• Cinder Glade --> Sheltered Thicket
• Canopy Vista --> Blossoming Sands
• Sunken Hollow --> Temple of Mystery
• Prairie Stream --> Wind-Scarred Crag
• Smoldering Marsh --> Canyon Slough

Good luck with your deck.

multimedia on Zombie

3 months ago

Hey, well done for first deck on a budget, nice Demonic Tutor. You've definitely done research into the better budget cards for Varina and adding win condition combos. Liquimetal Torque + Binding Mummy is interesting tech.

I see Wonder which is great with Varina, but it's going to be difficult to consistently activate Wonder needing an Island land with only 4 Islands + Wilds/Expanse for a total of only 6 Island sources. There's several dual lands here that could be replaced by budget Island dual lands to help Wonder and make Marsh Flats better.

Some budget land upgrades to consider:

• Command Tower --> Rupture Spire
• Exotic Orchard --> Crumbling Vestige
• Esper Panorama --> Orzhov Guildgate
• Sunken Hollow --> Dimir Guildgate
• Prairie Stream --> Azorius Guildgate
• Ice Tunnel --> Dismal Backwater
• Irrigated Farmland --> Tranquil Cove
• Glacial Floodplain --> Meandering River
• Caves of Koilos --> Forsaken Sanctuary
• Tainted Isle --> Dimir Aqueduct
• Tainted Field --> Orzhov Basilica
• Choked Estuary --> Scoured Barrens

Command Tower and Exotic Orchard are two staple rainbow lands. By adding Sunken Hollow and Prairie Stream then Marsh Flats has an Island dual land to search for that can potentially ETB untapped.

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Graveborn Muse is amazing repeatable draw with Zombies and the life lose doesn't matter much because of Varina. Muse can repeatedly refill your hand at the beginning of your turn giving you lots of choices for looting with Varina. Vile Entomber can tutor for Wonder or Gravecrawler and put it right into your graveyard. Patriarch's Bidding is another spell for mass reanimation of your Zombies.

Shepherd of Rot can wreck opponents life totals, who don't have life gain and it doesn't hurt you as much because you have a lot of life gain with Varina. If you're trying to win with Rooftop Storm then Lazotep Plating is excellent instant protection. Hordewing Skaab is a Zombie upgrade for Eternal Skylord to give all Zombies you control flying not just tokens.

• Graveborn Muse --> Corpse Augur
• Vile Entomber --> Tymaret Calls the Dead
• Patriarch's Bidding --> Necromancer's Covenant
• Shepherd of Rot --> Cemetery Recruitment
• Lazotep Plating --> In Oketra's Name
• Hordewing Skaab --> Eternal Skylord

Good luck with your deck.