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|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Rare|
|Zendikar Expeditions (EXP)||Mythic Rare|
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, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice Verdant Catacombs: Search your library for a Swamp or Forest card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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Verdant Catacombs Discussion
17 hours ago
Title says it all!!
TCG Market on a MM17 Catcombs is $65.52.
TCG Market on a ZEN Misty is $60.55.
I’m not particularly worried about the $5 difference tbh.
1 day ago
So for starters, I think you should definitely include Ponder and Preordain . These two one-mana cantrips don't look like much, but they'll let you run thirty-three lands rather easily and smooth out your draws. There's a reason they're super-banned in Modern, and it's not 'cause no one likes them.
Brainstorm is similar to the aforementioned, but you need shuffle effects to make it good -- getting stuck with two dead cards on top of your deck blows chunks. I think you need at least three fetches to justify running brainstorm, and probably want six plus, really. If the Zendikar/Onslaught fetches ( Polluted Delta , Verdant Catacombs , etc.) are inaccessible (they often are), there're other fetch options. Prismatic Vista is good, but that one can be expensive too... Evolving Wilds , Bad River , Rocky Tar Pit , Flood Plain , Terramorphic Expanse and Ash Barrens are all valid and much more affordable.
Concerning your counter-board, there's room for (a little) improvement without breaking the bank. Disallow , for instance, is a strictly better Cancel . I don't think Thought Collapse is very good... three mana is a lot of pay for a counterspell is a lot, and milling an opponent is frequently good for them in EDH. I think you may be better off using that slot for something like Fact or Fiction (which builds card-advantage) or a low-cost counter like Spell Snare , Spell Pierce or Dispel .
The best way to improve this deck, I think, is to work on the mana-rocks. The best ones outside Sol Ring ( Mana Crypt , Mana Vault , Mox Diamond , etc.) are unfortunately very expensive; however, there're a lot of two-mana mana rocks that are very affordable, and you may already have lying around. In my experience, two-mana rocks are a lot better than three mana rocks. Consider some or all of the following: Talisman of Dominance , Dimir Signet , Fellwar Stone , Arcane Signet (I think/hope the price will drop soon), Mind Stone , Prismatic Lens , Everflowing Chalice ... These'll let you keep up with green decks, or at least have a chance of doing so.
I see you're running Gravecrawler . I feel semi-obliged to point out that Skullclamp is stupidly good with Gravecrawler . Note that if you have a lord like Diregraf Captain out, it becomes slightly less fun; however, with your Carrion Feeder , you can keep it coming.
I think most UB decks benefit from running Ashiok, Dream Render and Narset, Parter of Veils . Their hatebear-like static abilities are super relevant in EDH, and if you pair Narset, Parter of Veils with your Windfall , you're halfway to playing Leovold, Emissary of Trest (who, thank whatever G-d may be, is banned).
Obviously, I don't know exactly how this deck will play -- I've never played this list. However, I suspect you end up with a lot of guys on the field. If that's the case, consider Slate of Ancestry as a draw engine with discard as a perk.
If you run a reanimation package, you can get cards like your Grave Titan down REAL fast. Consider Entomb in addition to your Buried Alive , and two or three cards like Animate Dead , Reanimate , Necromancy , Dance of the Dead , etc. Depending how spicy you want to get, Dreams of the Dead is in your colors... I think it's probably pretty bad, but I figured I'd mention it.
Patriarch's Bidding is around $20 nowadays, but it'll help you recover from a boardwipe real fast. I suggest running it in most black tribal decks, unless your meta is more than 40% to 50% tribal.
Winds of Rebuke is a good bounce effect that also mills you... It'll build card advantage via your graveyard, so you should at least test it.
Right. That's all I got for now. Good luck!
2 weeks ago
Morph is not an activated ability and is not affected by Biomancer's Familiar or Training Grounds. Also I don't quite think Midrange means what you think it means. It's not a measure of quality, but of speed. Midrange is between Aggro and Control, not Competitive and Casual. I'm also not quite sure why you need all these fetchlands. Especially all of the ally color ones and none of the enemy color ones, like Misty Rainforest or Verdant Catacombs . This is a comically expensive deck if it's intended to not be competitive, especially given how inherently silly the core concept of goofing off with morph creatures is. I'd recommend taking a second pass and cutting any card $20 or more that doesn't serve a purpose other than being "The best", like Mana Drain . The core concept of a deck where you drop a free 2/2 every turn is pretty good, but this particular version has a couple of egregious non-synergies, and is liable to attract way too much attention at the table given the money sunk into it.
2 weeks ago
Hey man! Grixis is fun. I've got some thoughts... feel free to ignore any/all of them.
Your mana base is better than most, but it can still use some work. Consider City of Brass and Mana Confluence . Paying one life for an ETB untapped, chromatic land to generate mana is a great rate, and these two are functionally a second and third command tower. Generally, the one life cost-to-activate is irrelevant.
Similar to your land-base, mana rocks are a great way to hit your colors and ramp yourself faster than your opponents. Since you don't have access to dorks, you need to consider more two-mana mana-rocks; these are, in my experience, vastly superior to three-mana rocks. Consider running a few of the following: Talisman of Indulgence , Talisman of Dominance , Talisman of Creativity , Fellwar Stone , Arcane Signet , Mind Stone , Prismatic Lens and/or Coldsteel Heart . The diamonds ( Sky Diamond , Charcoal Diamond and Fire Diamond ) are really just worse Coldsteel Heart s. If you wanna go and bust the bank, Grixis decks often have the critical mass of artifacts necessary to make Mox Opal good; Mox Diamond and Chrome Mox are also great. Also Mana Crypt .
In general, one-for-ones like Hero's Downfall and Dreadbore are not going to be powerful enough in a format like EDH. You have three times as many opponents, meaning you're facing approximately three times the number of cards you yourself have available. So you're probably going to want to be able to remove multiple threats with one card -- this is part of the reason Wrath effects are so good. I like that you're running Damnation ; consider Toxic Deluge as another, similar effect that dodges Gaddock Teeg 's restrictions. I've always been a big fan of By Force as mass artifact removal, and Cyclonic Rift is always worth including. Finally, Fire Covenant is a great piece of mass spot removal.
One card especially good with Cyclonic Rift is Windfall . Pairing Windfall with a Narset, Parter of Veils (which I think you should definitely run) leads to instant fun. More generally, mass, repeatable card-draw and/or selection is a great thing in EDH and decides most games. Phyrexian Arena is probably the most common way to generate card-advantage in black, but also consider Graveborn Muse , Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time (I don't recommend both, as delve can get in its own way), Fact or Fiction , Painful Truths (which is quickly becoming one of my favorite cards), Faithless Looting , Dack Fayden and the like.
Adding more cards to your counter package seems like a plausible route for improvement. If budget is no object, Mana Drain and Force of Will are the two best counters available. Also consider Force of Negation , which is excellent against combo decks, Dispel , which is great against Ad Nauseam decks, Pyroblast , which is good usually against at least one or two of your opponents and (on the off chance you run Dack Fayden and ult him) can steal a permanent, Flusterstorm , Spell Snare , Spell Pierce and other such cheap 'n efficient counter spells. If you want to go REALLY deep, I've found Counterbalance to be a high variance EDH card that tends to be good more often than not; you're already running Sensei's Divining Top , which is what really makes Counterbalance busted.
Lore-wise, Nicol Bolas is good at enrapturing and manipulating other, lesser creatures. Consider a Mr. Steal-yo-Gurl package, which is both flavorful and powerful. Sower of Temptation and Control Magic can both make opposing Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre s into your own threats; Bribery is similarly busted, and does not risk getting removed by a Toxic Deluge or (more likely) Nature's Claim . Also consider Treachery and Corrupted Conscience .
Since you're in blue, you have access to the best cantrips in magic. I highly, highly recommend running Ponder and Preordain -- These two don't look like much, but they'll dig you to what you need and past what you don't more efficiently than any other card. Brainstorm is also good, but I'd suggest holding off adding it until you get some more fetch lands in your deck. (Fetch lands' shuffle effect will make sure you don't get stuck with two dead cards on top of your deck.) Prismatic Vista and the off-color fetches like Flooded Strand or Verdant Catacombs are good ways to fill this role.
Your general has built-in discard. Another package to consider, therefore, is a Waste Not package. This is a relatively unique package in that it actually does not need the namesake card in order to be good; Raven's Crime , Words of Waste and Syphon Mind are all good in their own right, and made busted when Waste Not is on the field. Stick a Geth's Grimoire in the mix, and you can really go to town (especially with Words of Waste ).
Finally, as a kinda fun-z last suggestion, there's a 'Words' combo I've always liked that you may find interesting -- remember, though, it's really not the best. If you pair Words of Wind with Baleful Strix and a lot of mana, you can repeatedly return Baleful Strix to your hand with Words of Wind 's ability and make your opponents keep returning permanents. This would likely work best if your Omniscience was on the field, as it would end up effectively reading: ': Each opponent returns X permanents they control to their owners' hands.' However, this is likely a win-more type of thing.
There're some cards I think you should consider cutting in order to make room for my above suggestions. Wasp of the Bitter End strikes me as likely too weak in a format with three opponents; similarly, since Toll of the Invasion only hits one opponent, this should likely be considered on the chopping block. I think a boardwipe like Toxic Deluge is probably a lot better than Tyrant's Scorn . Lazotep Plating is probably worse than a regular hard counter. Finally, if you like the idea of artifact-based ramp in (2), thirty-eight lands is too many. I recommend cutting three to five, depending on how aggressively ramp-heavy you want your deck to play.
Right. That's all I got. Good luck!
3 weeks ago
Nice Deck, Abzan is one of the best tri colors for tokens, the only problem I can see regards the lands. I would consider adding some of the following lands: Godless Shrine , Temple Garden , Sunpetal Grove , Isolated Chapel , Silent Clearing , Concealed Courtyard , Marsh Flats , Fetid Heath , Caves of Koilos , Nurturing Peatland , Blooming Marsh , Llanowar Wastes , Verdant Catacombs , Twilight Mire , Scattered Groves , Razorverge Thicket , Canopy Vista , Brushland , Windswept Heath , Wooded Bastion , and possibly Prismatic Vista . Having these should help your deck out a lot! If you found any of these suggestions helpful I would appreciate it if you upvote my deck: A Deal With the Devil EDH! Nonetheless, I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a nice day!
3 weeks ago
Nice Deck, but there is some room for card improvement in it. Start off by adding Hinterland Harbor , and Breeding Pool , since you already have the other check and shock lands. And don't forget Watery Grave either. I would also consider adding fetch lands: Polluted Delta , Verdant Catacombs , and Misty Rainforest . Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is also pretty much a better version of a swamp as well. Filter lands would also be useful like Twilight Mire , Flooded Grove , and Sunken Ruins . You don't really need Bounce Lands like Simic Growth Chamber , but they are ok if you want to keep them. I would prefer to have fast lands though: Blooming Marsh , Botanical Sanctum , and Darkslick Shores . The other Horizon land would also be helpful, I believe it is called Waterlogged Grove . These lands should hopefully make your deck a lot better! If you find any of these suggestions useful I would appreciate it if you upvote my deck: A Deal With the Devil EDH! Have a great day, hope these suggestions help, and good luck on your deck.
3 weeks ago
The only thing I check in peoples decks (99.99% of the time) are their lands. Lands are my favorite part of magic, so I'm very particular about them. I'd recommend you add the following lands to your deck: Overgrown Tomb , Woodland Cemetery , Nurturing Peatland , Blooming Marsh , Verdant Catacombs , and Twilight Mire . I would also consider adding cards like Giant Growth , because if hypothetically you attacked with Glistener Elf , and played Giant Growth on it your opponent would get 4 infect instead of 1 for only 1 mana more. Otherwise though, nice! Infect is a great ability to build a deck around. If you found any of my suggestions useful I would appreciate it if you upvote my deck: A Deal With the Devil [EDH]. Good Luck on your Deck, and Have a Nice Day
1 month ago
Love this deck! I'm in the process of building a very similar one. I wish thrumming stone weren't so darn expensive! I'm sure when I buy one they'll immediately reprint it, or ban it...
I've compiled a list of cards I'm considering that aren't in your deck. I expect that many of them are cards you either: 1. Thought about and decided against. 2. Didn't want to shell out the cash for, (I feel ya) 3. Don't use in your play group. (I noticed you've got no tutors. A card like Mausoleum Secrets is very affordable and super strong in this deck. If your playgroup or you personally avoid tutors for balance/powerlevel/gameplay reasons, I commend you.) Hopefully there's a card or two in this list that make you say "oooh!", because your deck certainly got that reaction from me! Bloodbond March is INSANE and it's only 50 cents!
If any of these cards are like... aggressively bad, let me know so I don't put them in my deck, haha. I'm assuming you've actually assembled and playtested the deck, whereas I am still residing in the magical christmas land of my mind.
Erebos, God of the Dead
Archfiend of Depravity
Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
Butcher of Malakir
Journey to Eternity Flip
Dictate of Erebos
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
I haven't put much thought into what you would cut if you like any of these, aside from Blighted Fen . Once you get Bontu's Monument , Herald's Horn , or Jet Medallion out, Blighted Fen and any basic forests you end up with are gonna feel bad. Initiates of the Ebon Hand and Bog Initiate are spicy ways to fix the issue, but they are also... bad.
Side note: I'm curious how Rancor would be in this deck. It's a weird cost/benefit analysis because of course you want as many rats as possible, but when you can rancor to boost your sac creature +2/+0, then it pops back into your hand every time, it seems like the recursion value might add up. Also allows you to trample through extra damage on one player if they're gaining life. Anyone feel free to explain why Rancor is a dumb idea in this deck :)
Verdant Catacombs occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.14%
GU (Simic): 0.47%
WUB (Esper): 0.53%
BRG (Jund): 1.15%
BGW (Abzan, Junk): 2.67%
UBR (Grixis): 0.5%
BUG (Sultai): 1.12%
All decks: 0.41%
All decks: 1.27%