Elves of Deep Shadow
Creature — Elf Druid
Gain . Elves of Deep Shadow deals 1 damage to you.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Elves of Deep Shadow Discussion
1 week ago
Mana rocks are great, but the biggest advantage of being in green (as far as ramp) is the huge amount of 1cmc dorks. Having access to Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, Elves of Deep Shadow, Boreal Druid, Deathrite Shaman, Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, and also the good 2-mana ones like Priest of Titania, Bloom Tender, and Incubation Druid is a huge boon. Getting the ramp out a turn earlier (or having it tap for multiple colored mana) makes a big difference.
Of course, if you have artifact synergies, that's its own animal and worth going into. For the idea of a boros Phoenix deck, you could also add in a tutor/Sunforger package for good value.
3 weeks ago
Hey, one drop green mana Elves are really good, a big reason to play Elves. They aren't just ramp with Lathril they're also fuel for her activated ability when you don't need them for ramp and lets you get more Elves onto the battlefield quicker.
- Elves of Deep Shadow: can tap for black mana which is helpful with a lot of Forests.
- Fyndhorn Elves
- Elvish Mystic
- Llanowar Elves
- Arbor Elf: combos with Elvish Guidance when it's enchanted to a Forest.
- Birchlore Rangers: lets you tap Elf tokens the turn they're created to make mana, even black mana.
Staff of Domination does everything as a mana sink for Elves and can be an enabler for Lathril to be a win condition. With Staff you first make infinite green mana by tapping and untapping one of Archdruid, Marwyn(with 5 or more power), Priest of Titania, Circle or Wirewood Channeler. When you have infinite green mana then Staff is the mana sink to draw and cast enough Elves to control 10 or more. When you have 10 or more Elves then Staff can be the mana sink to repeatedly untap Lathril and each one the 10 Elves as the win condition.
Quest for Renewal is another enabler for Lathril and 10 Elves to be win condition. When Quest has four counters which is not difficult especially with more mana Elves, you can untap all creatures you control during each opponents turn. With Lathril each opponent loses 10 life on each player's turn, resulting in all opponents losing 40 life in one cycle of all player's turns if you have three opponents.
Chord of Calling is a helpful instant creature tutor since can tap Elves to help to pay for it's convoke, with enough Elves it's a free spell to cast and it puts the creature you search for onto the battlefield. It has nice interaction with Elf tokens since can tap them to convoke the turn they're created. With Chord get Ezuri or Miara, Thorn of the Glade in response to removal, get Archdruid so you can tap him on your turn, get Magistrate so you can tap her on your next turn, get Varragoth so you can attack with him on your next turn, etc.
Patriarch's Bidding is among the most powerful tribal spells for quick recovery. For five mana it reanimates all Elves in your graveyard. Play a Regrowth just to have another potential Chord or Bidding or recur any other card.
An area to consider improving to help with competitiveness is the manabase by upgrading to Golgari dual lands that ETB untapped.
- Undergrowth Stadium --> Foul Orchard
- Llanowar Wastes --> Golgari Guildgate
- Overgrown Tomb --> Jungle Hollow
- Unclaimed Territory --> Darkmoss Bridge
- Twilight Mire --> Cabal Stronghold
- Woodland Cemetery --> Skemfar Elderhall
Cabal Stronghold only works with basic Swamps and there's only 9 here which is not enough to really get much if any ramp making it consistently only a colorless source of mana.
Some cards to consider cutting: Blightbeetle, Mana Bloom, Terramorph, Serpent's Soul-Jar, Return Upon the Tide, Masked Admirers, Wild Pair, Golgari Guildmage, Korozda Guildmage, Rhys the Exiled, Blanchwood Armor, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Harvest Season
If Blightbeetle is tech in your playgroup than nice, but if it's not then it looks out of place. Most if not all mana ramp sources can come from actual Elves instead of other sources like Mana Bloom or land ramp like Terramorph. I would even play one drop mana Elf or Farhaven Elf over Cultivate or Harvest Season.
Serpent's Soul-Jar is not a good card, exiling an Elf when it dies is not a may you have to do it and hoping to be able to cast many Elves later, one at a time with Jar is not going to consistently happen. Instead most if not all your exiled Elves will be stuck in exile for the rest of the game because Jar will be destroyed or removed another way.
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
If I'm seeing this right, you're trying to get Deathbonnet Sprout Flip transformed quickly, and Heirloom Mirror Flip is the primary way to do that. Once that's done, you want to use Orcus, Prince of Undeath to bring back the low-cost creatures that flipped Sprout.
T1 Deathbonnet Sprout, T2 Insolent Neonate, sacrifice Neonate and discard Greater Mossdog, then dredge Mossdog back to your hand instead of drawing. You now have five cards in your graveyard, so if you have a high enough concentration of creatures, there's a good chance you can transform Sprout on turn 2.
1 month ago
Cut the basic lands. Add pretty much any non basic in their place. This will let you mill your entire library with Hermit Druid. If you have Muldrotha out you then cast Thassa's Oracle from your yard to win the game. Or, with 3 creatures on board, you can flash back Dread Return.
A copy of Phyrexian Delver will let you form a back up hulk pile around the Mikaeus, the Unhallowed Walking Ballista combo by using Protean Hulk to find Delver and Viscera Seer, using the delver to bring back Hulk, sacking hulk to seer, and finding Mikaeus and ballista.
As for non combo related additions, Nihil Spellbomb is pretty much a strictly better version of Soul-Guide Lantern in this deck where you can recur them. Your only playing 9 peices of ramp in the deck with a 6 mana commander that seems to be your main value engine. I would recommend adding more with cards like Millikin and Deranged Assistant.Also run Simic Signet and the talismans in your colors like Talisman of Curiosity. ETB effects like Wood Elves and Elvish Rejuvenator may also be good. Your in green so mana dorks are very good. Elves of Deep Shadow and Arbor Elf in particular. Expedition Map may be worth playing due to your ability to recur it and find any land you want to your hand.
At 6 mana you also have to be able to protect your commander once she hits the board to keep from getting blown out. You have a few cards that do this already but Voidmage Prodigy is a very versatile card that can sacrifice itself and be recurred. Swiftfoot Boots is also a good effect for this.
As for general cuts, Avenger of Zendikar, Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, Tombstone Stairwell don't help you get to your combos faster, don't slow down your opponenets, and arent involved in any combos I can see myself. While Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat can be used as replacements for Disciple of the Vault in your persit combo, they can't be included in the hulk pile and don't contribute to any of your other combos.
I don't think you need 3 edict creatures in the deck so maybe cut Merciless Executioner. If you find you need that density than keep it but its going to kind of be a dead card if you can cast one of the others from your graveyard already.
I generally want my removal to actually get rid of the thing in EDH though it is worth noting you can use these effects to bounce your own commander to save it if need be. Aether Spellbomb and Seal of Removal are possible cuts but not neccessarilly. Recommend something like Shriekmaw or Executioner's Capsule if you do feel like removing it. Beast Within is also a good card, even if it doesn't synergize extremely well with your commander.
1 month ago
Ok, to be honest there are only four cards I would remove without being too concerned here: Grizzled Outrider, Sarulf's Packmate, Snarespinner, and Pride of the Perfect. They aren't all bad, they just aren't as good as your other options essentially. When I broke it down, you have a pretty fair amount of each archetype I look for. Not including the four I mentioned above, you have 16 "Ramp" spells, 12 "Interaction" spells, 10 "Draw" spells, and 19 "Raw Value" spells. Not all of these are as efficient as you may want, but each are what I would consider acceptable for sure. One thing I would recommend is looking for additional means of recurring draw, or large draw spells. More cards like Beast Whisperer and Pact of the Serpent. I would also be wary of cards that draw for a death trigger like Twinblade Assassins and Miara, Thorn of the Glade. They are good recurring draw spells, but you really only run one sacrifice outlet with Pyre of Heroes, so you will be relying on your opponents to kill your things for you which isn't ideal. They are still solid options unless you find another card similar to Beast Whisperer which triggers on casting a creature spell. Any time you have a consistent means to keep your hand full is a great time given how many spells you want to be casting each turn and how much mana you will have access to at any given time. I would honestly look at increasing your draw capabilities so you dont empty your hand and just have to sit there playing whatever you draw each turn. Effects like Mind's Eye are good, but slightly worse for you because it isnt also on an elf, so you wont get full value like you will with something like Beast Whisperer. I wrote all the cards down on a sheet of paper to do this, I will throw it in my carrying case so I can give it to you either friday or if i see you before, then. From my earlier recommendations, based on where your deck is currently, I would drop Elves of Deep Shadow and Harvest Season. Both are good cards, but you have plenty of ramp, and most of it is also on an elf which makes it better for you in this list. Tutors (anything that allows you to search your library for a specific card) inherently make a deck more powerful, because you can fetch whatever you need at any given time, so the more of those you include, especially the ones already on elven bodies the more consistently you will hit the cards you really want to see every game. Prime examples would be Elvish Archdruid, Ezuri, Renegade Leader when you get him, and Ruthless Winnower would be the ones that pop up in my mind as amazing cards pretty much every game. Realmwalker would be a really good spell that would fall under the "draw" category because it essentially lets you use the top card of your library as if it were in your hand whenever that card is an elf. I still like Copperhorn Scout and Seedborn Muse here, especially if you do decide to pick up Yeva, Nature's Herald. You dont run many instants, but scout would let you tap down your elves for Lathril's ability your first main phase, you can go to combat swing scout, then untap all your elves and just do it again. Assuming you just do that twice, you drain each opponent for 20 life and gain 20 life yourself. With Seedborn Muse, you can do it at the end of each of your opponents turns, in one rotation of the board, you can drain 30 life and gain 30 life. With Yeva, Nature's Herald you would be able to utilize your land on each opponents turn to cast any green creature spells currently in your hand in addition to tapping them all with Lathril and dealing damage. The synergies that are possible in this deck are somewhat terrifying if I am being honest. Haha. There may come a time when you have to decide if you want to dedicate to combat or tapping with Lathril to really focus the deck down and get it to that next level, but honestly you could make this deck very scary without having to do that. Elves are so good that you can make this at least a 7 on my power scale with a little work (and unfortunately money, elves are a really powerful tribe, and they are popular enough that the good cards for them reflect that in their price). For reference, that is as strong as my Meren of Clan Nel Toth deck and I have spent literal years tuning that one, it is my strongest deck with the exception of my competitive list i built. Haha. Elves are good man.
1 month ago
Some extra cards to consider include Triumph of the Hordes, Elves of Deep Shadow, Copperhorn Scout, Seedborn Muse, Elvish Harbinger, End-Raze Forerunners would be a super budget Craterhoof though no where near as good either...does give your creatures trample though, Allosaurus Shepherd is stupid expensive, but insanely good because it makes your green elves uncounterable and can give you a huge bump in power as well, Fauna Shaman, Chord of Calling, Harvest Season, Overwhelming Stampede, Beastmaster Ascension, Doubling Season and Parallel Lives are both very expensive as well, but double the number of tokens you produce, and Tyvar Kell. Feel free to ask my why to any of these, they just seem solid for the combat elves strategy, not all of them necessarily belong in your list, just some options to consider. some of them are very expensive, i think i mentioned that with each though...
1 month ago
Hey, well done on a budget, nice foil Goldspan and SL Dreadbore :)
Consider more ramp with Korvold? More one and two drop ramp sources:
Korvold is powerful as Commander when playing lots of ramp since it helps to cast him faster and then that ramp can fuel his sacrifice. This makes playing lots of redundant ramp actually a strength.
Animation Module + Ashnod's Altar + Korvold is a combo to draw as many cards as you want, make Korvold huge, make as much colorless mana as you want. Without the combo Module is a nice repeatable source of tokens for sac fodder because of Korvold.
Add Pitiless Plunderer to create tons of treasures. Plunderer and a different sac outlet such as Viscera Seer or Goblin Bombardment could replace Ashnod's Altar since it only costs 1 mana (1 treasure) to make a Servo with Module. Bombardment is an excellent low CMC budget sac outlet.
Ramunap Excavator lets you abuse lands as the permanent to sac with Korvold. Caustic Caterpillar and Seal of Primordium are upgrades for artifact/enchantment removal spells because they can sac themselves as well as be saced at instant speed. Plaguecrafter is a nice creature removal effect in multiplayer Commander who sacs himself.
Prossh, Skyraider of Kher as the high end has synergy with Korvold. It's a sac outlet and it makes Kobold tokens to sac. Farseek is an upgrade for Rampant Growth because you have Overgrown Tomb and Stomping Ground. Harrow is an upgrade for Cultivate because you sac a land to cast it.
If interested I offer more advice including suggestions of cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Wanna play a not super $$$ deck but benefit off of everyone else's 0 mana accelerants, Docksides, etc? Run Culling Ritual. It's a great card.
I'm pretty new to cEDH, but I like to think I understand some of the basics. So take my advice if it appears sound. cEDH is mainly about speed and interaction. By utilizing 2 card combos, you can use just a small number of cards to win and use the rest of the deck to interact and prevent your opponents from winning. That is cEDH on average outside of high speed combo decks.
To translate that ideology into cards, it means that slow mana is bad. Lands that enter tapped and mana rocks that enter tapped don't allow you to keep up Counterspell mana at the same time as you mana ramp. This puts you incrementally behind until the crucial moment comes and you lose in a counterspell war due to lack of mana. For this reason mana rocks like Fellwar Stone are much preferred to Sky Diamond. However, a turn one Elves of Deep Shadow is still worth it even if it's slow on any other turn, so I would add that.
Another thing about cEDH that differs from high power commander is the shift from card advantage to card quality. You don't need to draw a lot of cards to win (think of cards like Genesis Wave or Recurring Insight), but rather just need the right cards. Tutors are great for this. Ponder, Preordain, and Brainstorm are fantastic as well since they're cheap, letting you keep mana up for interaction, while also giving you quality cards. I would recommend all of them. Wishclaw Talisman is a solid tutor that you can probably afford, too.
Honestly, with Tasigur on a budget, I would go for infinite mana combos, which you're already doing. Isochron Scepter and Dramatic Reversal is on the moderate side as far as costs go, but it's powerful since you also have a lot of instants. You also already have Muddle the Mixture which basically only sees play in cEDH to assemble a scepter combo anyway while being a counter when needed. Well, that's at least why I run it. You can even search up Pili-Pala with it.
On a side note, if you run into Thassa's Oracle a lot, I would consider trading for an Endurance. Not only can this card trick an opponent into exiling most of their deck and alternate wincons in the process, it can also shuffle your own deck back into your library if it gets too full and your opponents only give you trash cards when activating Tasigur. And if you wanted to pull off a Tainted Pact win, you can use 3 normal basics and 3 snow-covered basics. Of course, you'll need lots of different lands, too, but it's not impossible on a budget.