Ponder

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Discussion (51)

Swim_ish on Yarok ETB

15 hours ago

If you have Risen Reef, Zendikar's Roil is a must include for a potentially infinite and always hilarious combo! Take out Brainstorm, that card is stupidly overrated unless your deck focuses on topdecking, otherwise it practically does nothing. I'd also recommend throwing in some landfall cards with the amount of ways you have to get lands onto the battlefield. Try out Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Ob Nixilis, the Fallen, Avenger of Zendikar, and Roil Elemental. I'd also recommended taking out Ponder based off the same reasoning of brainstorm, Steel Hellkite because it's usually not going to get through is too slow with much better targeted removal available to you, Briarhorn because I have no idea why it is in your deck, AEtherize because it is too dependent on the situation (go for Cyclonic Rift which just got the reprint), Barrin, Tolarian Archmage because the theme of your deck isn't bouncing and there are better removal spells out there, Gitaxian Probe because it just shouldn't be in this deck, Thought Scour due to the same reasoning of brainstorm and ponder, and Gray Merchant of Asphodel because your devotion to black doesn't seem like it would be that high to me. Here is a list of some better removal spells to consider, keeping the double etb triggers in mind: Ravenous Chupacabra, Reclamation Sage, Beast Within, Assassin's Trophy, Shadowborn Demon, Agent of Treachery

Also, I'd highly recommend more ramp in the form of the talismans/signets just so the deck can run more soothly, especially with your higher mana curve.

Some final considerations: Sire of Stagnation, Polluted Bonds, Archaeomancer

Xzorgoth on nekusar

1 day ago

Voici quelques changements ''budget'' que tu pourrais faire pour optimiser ton deck.

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Strategic Planning Urgoros, the Empty One Dimir Guildgate Izzet Guildgate Rakdos Guildgate Doom Blade Blood Curdle Annihilate Vampire Nighthawk Curse of Fool's Wisdom Eye of Doom Breaking / Entering

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Jace Beleren Raiders' Wake Megrim Ponder Glint-Horn Buccaneer Dimir Signet Izzet Signet Rakdos Signet Murderous Rider Terminate Dreadbore Dragon Mage

SideBae on Oloro

1 week ago

If you wanna be a grade-A dork-a-saurous, I suggest running Zur's Weirding. With your automatic life-gain, you can filter OPs draws so they never draw a relevant card again.

I also suggest reconsidering your artifact mana. Arcane Signet is a wonderful card -- good you're running it! Similar 2-mana mana-rocks exist that I think are way better than Manalith or even Chromatic Lantern. (I've never liked lantern -- if you're running 2-mana-rocks, you don't need its extra fixing, and being 3 instead of 2 mana is an awkward taco...) I suggest running things like Talisman of Progress, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy, Dimir Signet, Orzhov Signet... In general, landing a 2-mana rock and having 4 mana on turn 3 is better than landing a 3 mana rock and having 5 mana on turn 4. I'm not entirely sure why this is, but it is (almost) infallibly borne out in my play experience.

I think people tend to overlook cantrips in EDH -- I suspect that costing just {u} makes people think they aren't powerful enough. This is unjustified. I recommend running Ponder and Preordain more highly than any other card in this comment -- they're simply too good to leave out. Brainstorm is similar, but unless you're running free shuffle effects (i.e. fetches), it's not going to be better than mediocre. If you don't want to fork over the cash for Flooded Strand and friends, consider running Flood Plain, Bad River, Grasslands and/or Rocky Tar Pit. Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse are good, too.

The majority of EDH games (and magic games in general) are decided by card advantage. Phyrexian Arena is a good start, but there're other cards to consider. Right off, here're a few: Fact or Fiction, Treasure Cruise, Painful Truths (a personal favorite of mine), Sphinx's Revelation, Mystic Remora etc. You can also attack from the other side, preventing other players from drawing cards, though this is more difficult since there're fewer cards to choose from. The best that comes to mind is Narset, Parter of Veils, followed by Alms Collector. I think Narset is way better tho.

Depending on your meta, you may be able to lay out the monarch mechanic for recurring card-advantage without needing a specific permanent. The best card I can think of that introduces this mechanic is Palace Jailer, which doubles as an Oblivion Ring on a stick!

Right. That's all I got. Good luck!

SideBae on Derevi, Holder of Lanterns

1 week ago

Yo... I've always loved lantern-control in EDH! I have a few suggestions:

1. So the easiest ways to increase consistency are either to run tutors or to run redundant pieces. I see you're running a lot of tutors already, which is good; one redundant piece I think you missed is Field of Dreams. It's about $60, which can be a lot if you don't want to invest in EDH. Personally, I think proxies are unfairly treated in EDH, since it's not a paid event (typically), so I recommend them. If your playgroup doesn't allow them, tho... well, $60 is doable.

2. Another way to increase consistency is to run cantrips. I highly suggest running Ponder and Preordain. If you run fetches, Brainstorm is also a powerhouse. Of course, the zendikar/onslaught fetches are a fortune; consider Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Fabled Passage, Grasslands, Bad River, Flood Plain and/or Mountain Valley. These are perfectly acceptable alternatives.

3. When games go long, you'll need a way to recoup cards. Consider big-draws like Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time (which are good when you're filling your yard with Ghoulcaller's Bell), Fact or Fiction or even Concentrate.

4. I like that you're running Emry, Lurker of the Loch. Have you considered Academy Ruins as another form of recursion? You can also try using Aether Spellbomb as a cheap recurrable.

5. Speaking of Emry, Lurker of the Loch, have you thought about Mindslaver? I used to play a lantern-control EDH list, and I used Mindslaver with Emry to strong effect. Generally, you can lock out one of your opponents and make him do whatever you want, including win for you. That's generally fun.

6. You're in green -- USE DORKS! This is easily the most overlooked part of green decks, which is sad because dorks are the best reason to be in green. Turn one ramp is better than artifacts can do most of the time, plus it gives you pokers if you need to use them with Derevi later. I highly recommend running at least four of the following: Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Noble Hierarch, Arbor Elf, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic... Even Boreal Druid and Joraga Treespeaker are good. You can also consider non-creature options, like Wild Growth and/or Utopia Sprawl.

7. Winter Orb. You can tap opponents' lands with Derevi. Enough said.

8. Finally, two walkers to consider are Oko, Thief of Crowns and Teferi, Time Raveler. Oko is great removal for opponents' problem cards (he nerfs all fatties into Trained Armodons) while occasionally producing a clock for you. Teferi nails opposing Counterspells, while producing a small amount of card advantage with his minus and allowing you to recast something if you bounce your own permanent.

9. Finally, while they're expensive, I think the latest cycle of free spells from Ikoria Commander are bombs. Fierce Guardianship and Flawless Maneuver are great cards which you should run if you can.

Right. That's all I got. Hope this helps!

RNR_Gaming on This really bugs me (locust god wheels)

1 week ago

Thassa's Oracle, Wheel of Fortune , Mind Stone, Fellwar Stone, Burning Inquiry, Dack Fayden, Dockside Extortionist, Breakthrough, Ponder, Submerge and Sage of the Falls maybe of interest to you.

TriusMalarky on Why are some commander staples …

2 weeks ago

Caerwyn interesting. I typically look at a meta, see what decks are there and figure out their play patterns, then build something deliberately different.

I don't particularly care for heavily used cards as long as they're expensive -- I'll throw down a Gprobe any day, if there was a format that allowed it. It's only $1 and I already have the playset. But I limit myself to $5 max w/out trades unless it's a land or something else I will absolutely be able to use forever. Like Sol Ring.

So, I wouldn't run these -- but not because they're bad. It's entirely because I like the challenge of brewing top tier decks with a minimal budget. I'm the idiot who'll run a $30 deck through a Modern tournament just to see how well I can do with that budget.

That said, repeatable colorless Ponder looks hot. I need me a few of those. Depressing pricetag tho.

Lanzo493 on Yarok ETB

2 weeks ago

Honestly, I’d swap Growth Spiral for Risen Reef. It is true that you don’t have many elementals, but just your commander being an elemental makes it worth it.

Steel Hellkite is a good card in mono color decks that have trouble removing certain permanent types. Like enchantments for red, black, and blue. But your color combo is the best for removing anything that’s a problem.

Expedition Map usually isn’t worth running unless you have utility lands or super powerful lands. It doesn’t really ramp, which is what holds it back.

Frost Lynx doesn’t really impact the board much. Especially since some of the greatest threats don’t need to attack or tap to be a pain.

Narset, Parter of Veils, Snapcaster Mage, Ponder, Preordain, Gitaxian Probe seem like cards that fit a spellslinger deck rather than a good stuff value deck. I don’t know if you’re trying to do that with your deck or not. Just be careful to not do so many different things with your deck that it ends up doing none of them well.

Snips500 on [PDH] Tatyova Combo

2 weeks ago

Hi, I just recently brewed up a Tatyova list that is aiming to be competitive and I wanted to ask about a few of your choices. I acknowledge that you have likely tested and played this deck more often but I am mostly curious about some of your card choices and the direction that you took this list. You can find my deck here: ~PDH~ When Lands Came to Value Town (Tatyova)

1. Why do you include so much card draw? I actually run zero spells or otherwise that draw me cards other than lands through Tatyova. When I first was putting the list together I had a bunch in the form of Ponder, Gush, and so on but ended up cutting them for other cards.

2. Some of your Land fetchings spells just seem bad. I don't mean to offend but cards like Nature's Lore, Search for Tomorrow, Shoreline Ranger, Spoils of Victory, Farseek, Kodama's Reach and Rampant Growth just don't seem worth it to me. Instead of some of these fetch spells, I run 40 lands. I was also surprised that you are not running Dreamscape Artist (Springbloom Druid just seems like a worse version). It's like a repeatable Harrow and gets you two Tatyova triggers. I would argue that that card is one of the most powerful cards in my deck behind Tatyova ofc and Mystic Sanctuary.

3. I decided to include more utility lands such as Bojuka Bog, Khalni Garden, and Sejiri Steppe. This decision on my part to include these was in spite of some of them not being in Green Blue but I though their value outweighs that downside. Bojuka Bog for example is better than Relic of Progenitus in this deck because you can flash it in with a creature like Walking Atlas and exile a target players bin and draw a card like relic. The thing is though that Bog is repeatable through your creatures that bounce your lands. Sejiri Steppe is similar in the way that its repeatable protection for Tatyova or another important creature.

4. I noticed you only ran 1 land bouncing creature. In my deck, these guys power much of the value. With them and Halimar Depths I can basically ponder each turn at least once, it allows me to repeat the ETB effects that I mentioned above, and It also allows me to get a land drop in if I missed one for some reason. Floodbringer, Oboro Breezecaller, Soratami Rainshaper are the ones I run in addition.

5. Now a few suggestions I have: Whispersilk Cloak, Power Sink, Universal Solvent, Vines of Vastwood, Scaretiller, Explorer's Scope (This works well in conjunction with Adventuring Gear and Aqueous Form), Seat of the Synod and Tree of Tales can be tutored with Trinket Mage, Library of Leng, Stone-Seeder Hierophant/Krosan Restorer, Spidersilk Armor (So the majority of your board doesn't die to Shrivel, Electrickery or something like that and harder for Pestilence and Crypt Rats.) Also Snap can ramp you is you have a land that taps for two and same with Frantic Search if you do want to play cantrips. Another win-con that will win you the game as soon as you combo off is Sage's Row Denizen that is assuming that you are not using Mystic Sanctuary.

Thank you for hearing me out. I am sure that there is a good reason for many of the cards I just questioned and I am excited to hear them to understand your deck better. If you have questions about my choices and reasoning I would be more than happy to explain further. I am trying to make the best Tatyova deck that I can and just wanted to know why a list with a similar end goal is running certain cards that I cut out.

Lastly, I just wanted to say that after looking through your list I am considering running: Lull and Moment's Peace because sometimes this deck has a problem stabilizing early because my playgroup sees my deck as a very large threat. Merchant Scroll, I don't know why I was not running it. Mystic Remora and Rhystic Study are just too good to pass up and I probably should have been running them. I have just one problem and that would be cutting cards. I would apreciate it if you could take a look at my list and tell me what you think.