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1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
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Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
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Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
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Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
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Planechase Legal
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Standard Legal
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WhatInTheWhoNow on Cut-CO knives are ehxpensive!

1 day ago

wallisface,

I agree about Thoughtcast. It definitely seems though that digging will be important since the deck needs a decent variety of each kind of card, so I went with Impulse instead of Consider.

wallisface on Cut-CO knives are ehxpensive!

2 days ago

WhatInTheWhoNow Yeah the deck defiantly looks a lot stronger now! The only card i'm suspicious of is Thoughtcast - you don't have a lot of artifacts in the deck, and if you can keep the ones you do have on the board you're probably already winning, so this feels a bit like a "win more" card. I think Witch's Oven could be a good replacement for it, but if you're not a fan of that then something simple like Consider will probably still provide you more value than the Thoughtcast, in that it can be used on those earlier turns that matter more.

wallisface on Krakens

1 week ago

Looks like a fun deck! My only thoughts are that you're going to often be in an awkward position where you're unable to hold up mana for your countermagic, because soo much of your stuff is sorcery speed (and you're land count is too low to be leaving-up excess mana). I'd suggest either ditching Counterspell and Spell Pierce, or play waay more of your cards as instant-speed versions (for example, Consider instead of Serum Visions, and Thought Scour or Fleeting Distraction instead of Slip Through Space).

I'm also very skeptical about Thing in the Ice  Flip - it's a nonbo with all your own creatures (especially the creature-tokens that you'll lose completely), and doesn't feel massively helpful in general. It might be better-off as just being more draw cards.

PauperPundit on Night City

2 weeks ago

Hey there!

I'm a newbie so I apologize in advance if it's a silly question...

Do you think this deck could benefit from splashing Blue? Nightsky Mimic could be replaced with Esper Stormblade for a more consistently powered up creature, and you could add Consider or Brainstorm or even Deep Analysis for card draw. And something like a Spell Pierce can be more proactive than an Unmake.

Then again, maybe I just am not so good at building decks lol

zapyourtumor on Grixis Delirium Shadow

3 weeks ago

Not running 4 Expressive Iteration is almost definitely suboptimal.

A deck like this is able to achieve delirium fairly easily, so running cantrips that help full the yard like Consider and Thought Scour aren't really needed (which is why the MH2 era shadow decks never ran scour, while the old ones with Gurmag Angler did). You should be able to get Land + Creature + Instant very easily, and there are 13 Sorceries + Artifacts + Enchantments for the fourth type. Instead of running cantrips, it is probably better to just increase the general card quality by running better cards. 4th Drown, 4th heat, Inquisition of Kozilek, or the aforementioned copies 2-4 of Iteration.

I assume you have some sort of reason for not running Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer? It is probably one of the best cards you can cascade into.

wallisface on Blue/black mill

1 month ago

Some thoughts:

  • It looks like you're currently trying to do 3 different things here: mill your opponent out, combo-off, and deal them 20 damage. This is just going to weaken your overall gameplan because whichever way to try to win, only half of the cards you draw are going to help with that. I would suggest you reorganize the deck to be entirely-focused on the mill plan, entirely focused on the Duskmantle Guildmage combo, or entirely focused on the beatdown plan.

If you're wanting to build a Mill Deck:

  • There are no creatures at all worth running except for Hedron Crab and Ruin Crab. Nothing else is even remotely worth the effort of running, because nothing else really helps with the goal of milling your opponent.

  • Also something to be aware of, is that you need any card that is milling to get at least 8 cards from your opponents deck (try to compare mill spells as burn spell, except you need to do 53 damage instead of 20 - so the same way that burn can never justify running Shock, mill can never justify running Tome Scour). Any less than this, and you just end up empty-handed with your opponent still alive. So I would suggest ditching Mind Grind, Tome Scour, Traumatize, both the planeswalkers, and your artifacts. I would also say to get rid of Fraying Sanity because that card is just bad. Instead look to add things like Fractured Sanity, Maddening Cacophony and Archive Trap.

  • You'll want a decent amount of interaction in the form of Surgical Extraction and Fatal Push, as well as Drown in the Loch. Crypt Incursion is also great to keep yourself alive longer

  • An example deck of how this looks here

If you're wanting to build a Combo Deck:

  • you'll want to up your copies of Mindcrank to a full playset. You also want ways to fetch both your combo pieces in the way of cards like Dimir Infiltrator and Muddle the Mixture, as well as draw spells like Consider or Serum Visions.

  • Duskmantle Guildmage is the only real creature you need to run, though its worth also considering Spellskite as a way to protect your combo pieces, and Vendilion Clique as either a way to fix your own hand, or mess with your opponents.

  • Your other cards should mainly be focused on ensuring your opponent can't disrupt what you're doing. Spell Pierce and Counterspell will be great here, as well as proactive cards like Inquisition of Kozilek. Because you only really want to slow your opponent down, stuff like Vapor Snag can be decent too (note this card can also start the combo triggering once you have the pieces in play).

  • A budget dechtech example with description, list & video this deck here

If you're wanting to build a Creature-beatdown Deck:

  • You probably don't want to be doing much milling at all, or at least you don't want to be running any cards that only mill. The most practical route to go down is probably using Rogues, with cards like Thieves' Guild Enforcer and Soaring Thought-Thief.

  • A budget dechtech example with description, list & video this deck here

Arrzarrina on Roon Shenanigans

2 months ago

19/01/2023 changes: There have been a few rounds of changes. Removed counterspells to attempt to make the deck to make more fun to play against, sold the Mox Diamond because it's become worth a mint in the last 7 years, added more draw and refocused the deck on creature ETB based interaction instead of something like Oblivion Ring. It's a good card but I don't get the value that I could get out of a Fiend Hunter. You know where I'm going with this. I've also added more mana fixing to the land base and adjusted colours for the new balance.

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zapyourtumor on The Art of Deflection

2 months ago

The deck could definitely use some tuning, but I like the concept a lot, especially the flavor bonus of Jeskai plus a deflection theme.

Cards to Cut

First off I would cut a lot of the straight up bad cards. Divine Reflection obviously fits with the theme but the card just takes too much mana and offers too little for what it costs.

Shu Yun doesn't really do much for the 3 mana he costs, and his double strike effect even makes you pay two more mana every time.

Boros Charm is really more of a burn card, and I don't think it does very much in a tempo list like this. The indestructible choice can come in clutch sometimes, but the 4 damage or double strike options seem pretty mediocre. There are loads of great cards to run in Jeskai, and I don't think this is one of them.

Snapcaster Mage is obviously a great card. However, assuming you're on a budget, you also have to consider the fact that this card is taking up 1/3 of your decks price (for only 2 copies). More importantly, I'd actually argue that Snappy is far too slow for your tempo deck, which wants to be relatively aggressive with early threats like Swiftspear and Delver. The extra $40 you save can go towards some really nice upgrades for the deck, some of which I will suggest below.

The Manabase

I've had to build manabases for multicolor budget decks before, and I feel your pain. This is always easily my least favorite part of deckbuilding on a budget, and it just feels bad in general that your deck can't even run smoothly without spending a ridiculous amount of money on lands. But that's what WotC decided its going to make half its profit from so it is what it is.

I'm not going to make any specific card suggestions here, but your manabase is pretty clunky. This isn't really a criticism, since any manabase below a triple digits is going to be clunky, and I think the combination of basics+checks does an okay job all things considered. Thank god none of your cards have double pips of one color. I think any number of shocks are going to be out of your price range. Check lands are nice, but they basically require shocks to work well. Some other land cycles you can look into are Painlands, Innistrad Slowlands, Temple (Scry) lands, Amonkhet Cycle lands, and Pathway lands.

Maindeck Card Suggestions

Path to Exile: While some of the deflection cards can hit creatures, you technically only have three copies of bolt in the removal department. In my opinion, you should definitely expand that to a more diverse suite of removal spells which can cover all the bases. Path is probably the best catch-all creature removal you can run. It excels in the midgame, removes annoying threats like Murktide, Archon of Cruelty, Primeval Titan, Yawgmoth etc, and only costs one mana. It's also affordable! I think running around 1-2 copies would be good, with potentially another in the sideboard.

Prismatic Ending: A very strong removal spell that compliments Path very well. While path takes out all the high cmc creatures, ending deals with the cheap creatures easily while also dealing with any other problematic permanents. Most 3+ color decks of this kind that run white should run this card in my opinion. Ending also dropped in price a lot so it's quite cheap.

Lightning Helix: I definitely think you should max out 4 copies of bolt first, but helix would be like copies 5+. It also kind of fits the deflection theme since it gains you life (equivalent to preventing damage) while also dealing damage.

Monastery Mentor: Definitely on the more expensive side of my suggestions, but still a lot cheaper than Snappy. If you want to run a 3 cmc threat, I would highly recommend Mentor over Shu Yun. With all the noncreature spells you're slinging around, you will quickly amass an army of monk tokens with prowess.

Sprite Dragon: My replacement of choice for Stormchaser Mage. One of my favorite cards, Draggy is a threat that your opponent must answer quickly, or risk getting run over. Definitely a very solid 2 drop in this kind of deck.

Expressive Iteration: Iteration is a bit slower than most of my suggestions and most of the cards in your deck (besides Snap), but what we get for being slower is grind power and card advantage. EI is such a strong card that most decks from the aggro-midrange-tempo-control spectrum in UR colors choose to run it. Of course, if you are short of card slots then I think my earlier suggestions fit the deck a little better.

Consider: While I don't think you have space to add Consider in addition to Serum Visions, I do think it is worth cutting Visions for this card. You lose a little bit of digging power, but the instant speed is invaluable in a deck that wants to hold up mana for counterspells and instant speed removal/deflection effects. Opt works if you want to save a little bit of money since you have no graveyard synergy besides Snappy (which I think you should cut anyways).

Sideboard Card Suggestions

Tormod's Crypt: Grave hate.

Spell Pierce: Additional copies of Pierce are always good for decks with lots of those noncreature spells.

Wear / Tear: Remains some of the best artifact/enchantment removal in these colors, especially good against saga decks. Cheap also.

Hallowed Moonlight: Hits a surprisingly large number of decks right now, from Creativity to Scam to Rhinos to Yawgmoth to Living End--you get the idea.

Dress Down: This card is just crazy versatile and absolutely hoses saga tokens, and it is probably relevant in more matchups than you would expect. You can cast it in response to Murktide to make it a 3/3, you can shut down hammer and Yawg, stop Titan and Archon from using their ETBs, cast it in response to a Thassa's Oracle, etc.

Alpine Moon: Mainly for Urza's Saga, but it also stops Tron and hits some random stuff like Valakut Scapeshift and Lotus Field shenanigans.

Mystical Dispute/Aether Gust: Just decent color-hate options, if you need more flexible sideboard pieces and have extra space.

Blossoming Calm: Another card I like in decks like this, great against Burn and Rakdos Scam but also stops stuff like Archon and Yawg Combo from targeting you.

Deck Description Suggestions

Each person usually has their own style of deck descriptions, but I can give some suggestions based on my own deck descriptions.

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