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Flooded Grove
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Miirym’s Temur Dragons
2 weeks ago
Hellkite Charger could replace Skanos Dragonheart? Both these Dragons want to attack to trigger abilities, but Skanos needs other Dragons to make it good, Charger doesn't. Skanos can't pump itself and doesn't have evasion, Charger can be part of a combo Skanos can't. Thrakkus the Butcher is a better five drop Dragon with trample who pumps itself as well as all other Dragons you control.
There's another combo you could add that creates infinite Dragons with Astral Dragon and the enabler Cursed Mirror provides a wincon, haste to attack. Could of course have other wincons: Scourge of Valkas, Dragon Tempest or Warstorm Surge. Mirror is a good card, you wouldn't just be adding it for the combo, it's a mana rock that if it becomes a Dragon when it enters then Miirym can copy it.
When you control Cursed Mirror that's not a creature have Astral Dragon enter and copy Mirror. The Mirror tokens then enter as Astral and copy original Mirror that's not a creature and repeat. This creates a loop of Astral and Mirror making copies of each other, each copy of Mirror is a 4/4 Astral Dragon with haste. To break the loop stop copying Mirror with Astral, copy something else.
Sarkhan Unbroken would be another fine upgrade, but not when on a budget. $25 for a nonDragon creature card when on a budget seems not a good use of funds. For $25 you could improve the manabase with many land upgrades Reflecting Pool, more Pain lands (Yavimaya Coast, Shivan Reef), some Bond lands (Spire Garden), some Filter lands (Flooded Grove) or some Check lands (Sulfur Falls, Rootbound Crag). In my opinion when on a budget allocating some of the budget for good lands is more important than adding flashy cards such as Sarkhan.
Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner is less powerful than Sarkhan, but it's also less than $2. Kiora can still do much work as another Temur Ascendancy draw effect as well as give you 7 turns of ramp that can untap any permanent including Sol Ring or an Orb.
Shamanic Revelation could be a cut for some lower mana cost draw since you're more likely to have a higher power Dragon then that same number of Dragon creatures. That's what makes Return of the Wildspeaker and Rishkar's Expertise good draw with Dragons is they have high power. Revelation is better when playing little tribal creatures such as Elves which tend to have quantity of creatures rather than single creature with high power.
legendofa on
Death to Tokens
1 month ago
I think you could add something like Flooded Grove. The only cards that require multiple colored mana are Hunted Troll and Hunted Phantasm, so the double color can help you there, and it can convert a Watery Grave into a Sylvan Scrying.
And as I look at this again, I realize the only white card is Mercy Killing. My gut suggestion is to drop the Reflecting Pools for a Flooded Grove and a couple of Twilight Mires. In my experience, you can get by without for the first couple of turns, and that's when you really need and here.
If it works for your budget, I also recommend at least one more Overgrown Tomb. My impression is that the land sequence should be something like T1 Watery Grave or Overgrown Tomb, T2 shockland, Twilight Mire, or Woodland Cemetery, T3 Watery Grave or Flooded Grove.
cyeRunner on
Mono-Blue-Merfolk
2 months ago
Since you run 2x Lands that Produce only (Forest and Boseju) I recommend exchaning 2x Breeding Pool for 2x Flooded Grove so you can produce even with a Forest in play.
vecuu on
Bant Commander
8 months ago
Mana talk:
Minimizing taplands is generally good but expensive (as you know). Plan to eventually replace stuff like the Vivids, snow-duals, and whatever the shorthand for Transguild Promenade is (which, btw, this is twice as slow as a normal tapped land and should 100% be replaced). Yes, even eventually replace the 'gain 1 life' lands that I love :(
I don't know the exact recommended land count. I see as low as 29 (with lots of 0cmc extra expensive cards) and as high as low 40s. I've been targeting 35ish with another 7-8 mana rocks, but I'm not in Green. In Green, you can run 2cmc ramp spells instead of 2cmc mana rocks. like Rampant Growth, Sakura-Tribe Elder, and Farseek.
With all of your land-tutor creatures, make sure you have enough targets. Since you're Chulane, erring on more lands overall might be better?
2 mana rocks like Azorius Signet and Arcane Signet are going be substantially stronger than 3cmc stuff like Selesnya Locket.
Cheatsheet and hyperlinks:
Shocklands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Shock_land
Fetchlands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Fetch_land
Filterlands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Filter_land
Checklands: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Check_land
Niob_Mordodrukow on
Fast Animar
9 months ago
Made some changes. - Coiling Oracle since it costs 2 color mana, and we dont have much lands to abuse his landdrop ability.
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Destiny Spinner since Rhythm of the wild included now, and also we have Veil of Summer and Cavern.
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Lotus Cobra for Tireless Provisioner, because elf and treasures are better in most cases.
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Slithermuse, because depends on opponents hand a lot.
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Soul of the Harvest, since we have a lot of those effects anyway (i concider Vizier and Augur as those effects also).
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Stratus Dancer, because it is a 2 mana counterspell just for sorcery or instant. It is good, but free counters are better.
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Wall of Roots, because 2 mana dork, giving only 1 mana per turn, and it is not even an elf.
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Hardened Scales, because we dont have much creatures requiring tons of counters (In fact, it is two eldrazi and ballista. Everything else works well without this card), and it is better to have some card which does something useful instead.
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Exotic Orchard, because sometimes will not give us correct color.
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Flooded Grove, because filters can be bad sometimes.
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2x Island, cause we needed 2 more slots.
Now i wanna check how good is Rhythm of the Wild and return Destiny Spinner if it is not. And also find a slot for Ramunap Excavator, since we have 9 fetchlands and Lotus Field
nbarry223 on
5c Neoform Value (Suggestions Wanted)
10 months ago
Ok, here's a landbase to try out (tried not to change too much and make it work a little better life-wise while still maintaining the ability to get most any color combination by the turn you need it):
1x Reflecting Pool
1x Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
1x Ketria Triome
1x Zagoth Triome
1x Breeding Pool
1x Stomping Ground
1x Temple Garden
3x Windswept Heath
3x Wooded Foothills
1x Misty Rainforest
2x Forest
1x Plains
1x Island
Below can be 4 of anything from fast lands like you have now to vivid lands etc. I'll just list a few + lesser options in case you like any, but the core is above. You should concentrate on having access to then / then then lastly (couple exceptions which I explained). I tried to put them in order of relevance.
Vivid Grove (there's other vivid lands, this is the green one though, and you don't want many tapped lands)
Fire-Lit Thicket (there's other of this cycle, but this is first choice because it will help with your costs)
Barkchannel Pathway
 Flip
Branchloft Pathway
 Flip
Temple of Mystery (lots of temple options, sometimes the scry is worth the tapped land)
Wooded Bastion
Flooded Grove
Hengegate Pathway
 Flip
Cragcrown Pathway
 Flip
Grove of the Burnwillows
Lair of the Hydra (manland that you could transform at low cost, or large beater for endgame)
Nimbus Maze
Simic Growth Chamber (maybe it is worth waiting a turn to reuse a land, but probably not in most cases)
River of Tears
Exotic Orchard
Pillar of the Paruns
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hannah's Ezuri deck
1 year ago
Hey, Shared Summons is an instant speed budget tutor to get Sage and Plaxmanta to protect the combo or any other pair of creatures. Siren Stormtamer is another budget creature who can protect the combo. Vedalken AEthermage instant wizardcycling can get Sage or Fathom or any other Wizard. Neoform is a powerful budget spell, it consistently will not be able to get Sage, but it can tutor for another creature and cheat it onto the battlefield.
By adding Rimewood Falls than Farseek, Lore and Visits have a Simic dual land to search for. Yavimaya Coast , Vineglimmer Snarl , Ash Barrens , Bant Panorama are more budget lands to consider adding especially Coast since it can ETB turn one to cast Birds.
When I build two color decks I allocate much of the budget within reason to lands. If this means I don't play a few expensive price cards such as Arachnogenesis then that's fine. Arachnogenesis is not a bad card, it's actually quite good and can be a blowout against opponents infinite attacking token army, but it isn't worth $34 when budget is a concern. For example, if I was building this deck on the budget you have I would play a Breeding Pool , Flooded Grove and Hinterland Harbor instead of Arachnogenesis.
Good luck with your deck.
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Chulane, the Value Train
1 year ago
Made a number of updates - 20 cards changed in total including commander (Roon removed in favor of Chulane):
Removed Roon of the Hidden Realm , 3x Island , 2x Forest , 2x Plains , Selesnya Signet , Simic Signet , Telling Time , Brainstorm , Ponder , Preordain , Foresee , Time Reversal , Terminus , Kiora, the Crashing Wave , Tamiyo, Field Researcher , Darksteel Ingot , and Terastodon
Added: Chulane, Teller of Tales , 2x Snow-Covered Island , 2x Snow-Covered Plains , 2x Snow-Covered Forest , Flooded Grove , Arcane Signet , Teferi's Ageless Insight , Tatyova, Benthic Druid , Ice-Fang Coatl , Reveillark , Prime Speaker Zannifar, Brago, King Eternal , Vesperlark , Glen Elendra Archmage , Seedborn Muse , Soulherder , Beast Whisperer , and Commander's Sphere
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