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Land — Forest Plains
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Canopy Vista enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or more basic lands.
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Canopy Vista Discussion
2 days ago
Hey, nice version of Thrasios/Tymna :)
Lots of expensive price cards and interesting interactions here, but the manabase is not good. 17 of the 34 lands ETB (enter the battlefield) tapped which is too many for a $600+ deck. The manabase doesn't match the rest of the deck. The Temples, Vivid lands and ETB tapped Fetch lands are not competitive lands. If you're wanting to improve the casual competitiveness of your deck my advice is upgrade the manabase.
Some lands to consider adding:
- Llanowar Wastes
- Yavimaya Coast
- Caves of Koilos
- Underground River
- Exotic Orchard
- City of Brass
- Woodland Cemetery
- Sunpetal Grove
- Hinterland Harbor
- Glacial Fortress
- Canopy Vista
- Sunken Hollow
These are the least expensive price playable land options in these four colors. In fact many of these land suggestions can be further upgraded with more expensive price lands. Adding a Nature's Lore can also help because it can search for one of Pool, Tomb, Garden or Vista.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vivid Creek
- Vivid Grove
- Vivid Meadow
- Bad River
- Flood Plain
- Gateway Plaza
- Temple of Deceit
- Temple of Enlightenment
- Temple of Malady
- Temple of Mystery
- Temple of Plenty
- Temple of Silence
1 week ago
4-8 is the typical number of removal spells decks run. Path to Exile is the card of choice. I've never invested the $$ in it personally.
In terms of lands, you want to look at a few things: 1) what color, if any is most common in the mana cost of your 1 and 2 CMC spells. 2) what color(s) dominate your color wheel 3) how much money do you want to spend. In many cases, 6 dual lands is enough. If you go with Sunpetal Grove , you'd want to keep pretty many basic lands for it to be worth it. I forgot to mention Razorverge Thicket - that's a fantastic land, too. Canopy Vista is nice if you have spells that specify "forest," but otherwise there are better options. I've been experimenting with combining bounce lands with scry lands lately (for budget grins) IE - Selesnya Sanctuary + Temple of Plenty - it's not particularly good, but with Voyaging Satyr it's not bad. The point is that for the deck it's in, Selesnya Sanctuary 's bounce is actually helpful ( Quicksilver Fountain / Eternity Vessel ) - so it's a good land for that deck. You should think of your land-base not only as a source of mana, but as a versatile mechanic entwined with the rhythm of the deck. If you're going up against opponents bringing stuff back from their graveyard, Scavenger Grounds could be added to the mainboard, but 4x Scavenging Ooze in the sideboard is way better. (in reference to your exile vs destroy comment). I can't believe I forgot this one, but Gavony Township is a no-brainer here if you can afford it. (1x)
I think it's better to put down a creature on T1 than it is to play Hardened Scales. My white +1/+1 counter deck Cocaine plays much faster than any mono-green or selesnya build I've tried, and I've tried quite a few: Engorged Weenies, Sage of counters, Nuclear Proliferation, Elvish Dividends, Counter-Elves, Simestrogen, Spinach, Obese Americans - as you can see, I've included varying number of Hardened Scales in each of these (and I've tested them unevenly) - but the reason I haven't tested more is because the mono-white Cocaine build sets the bar pretty high. It's the fastest, most resilient, and consistent so far. I keep trying to make a green or selesnya deck that matches it, but so far, it's been underwhelming. One of the reasons being that green doesn't have the quality 1CMC creatures white has. A 3/3 creature on T2 isn't as good as a 2/3 and a 2/2 with first strike and vigilance on T2. That is, missing a creature drop on T1 is a pretty serious sacrifice. Modern is a pretty fast format. It's not difficult to build a deck that combos off on T3. I build a lot decks here to explore possibilities. One of the strange conclusions I've come to is that Hardened Scales is too slow. (I realize this is counter-intuitive, to say the least and that there are probably a lot of people that would want to fight me about it.) Long story short, I'd encourage you to search very hard for as many 1CMC counter creatures and to include at least 4, if not 6-8.
Also, add Metallic Mimic to the list of benefits to tribal +1/+1 counters, though I think this spell is also over-valued - it's really not very good by T4. It's both slow and timing-sensitive.
1 week ago
These are your best creatures: Evolution Sage, Hexdrinker, Huatli's Raptor, Managorger Hydra, Mistcutter Hydra, Tuskguard Captain. I suggest you increase most of those creatures to a full set (4x each) and cut the rest.
You currently have 69 cards included. That number should be reduced to 60. I suggest cutting all the Instants, Sorceries, and Enchantments except Pledge of Unity. If after all the cutting there is room left over, I've outlined a number of spells that will add dynamism and range both with the creatures above and with other spells below.
I believe good lands are more important than Planeswalkers. Llanowar Reborn and Oran-Rief, the Vastwood are perhaps valuable enough to consider. Sunpetal Grove , Canopy Vista , Temple of Plenty , Fortified Village , Temple Garden , Windswept Heath are all worth considering, depending on your budget. Swapping out your slow lands for those listed above will improve both speed and reliability.
My thoughts on +1/+1 counters decks: Hardened Scales is overkill, over-rated, and slow. It's a very powerful card that doesn't necessarily speed decks to a win. The best +1/+1 counter decks include only low CMC creatures that can repeatedly provide their own counters. Creatures, especially any that get really big, will get removed pretty consistently. So getting lots of creatures down and swinging quickly and consistently is essential. This is all, of course, just my 2 cents.
I'll point out that there are enough creatures and spells that it's very possible to build solid mono-white or mono-green +1/+1 creature decks. I actually think it's easier to build a solid deck staying mono-colored - it's possible to go mono-color tribal with Humans, Soldiers, Elves, Allies, Oozes etc. The advantage to going tribal is more than just synergy - it's also a handy framework to round out a deck with advantages while also keeping the deck focused. Going tribal also opens the door to Cavern of Souls and Unclaimed Territory . I'd go so far as to say there are so many really solid +1/+1 counter spells, one of the hardest things about building a deck is narrowing it down to a well-honed point. I'm not saying I think you need to go mono-colored and/or tribal here, just pointing out ways to help focus the deck.
1 week ago
Brushland is much better than Canopy Vista (they're Budget if you get them used) because your turn 2-3 attacks are crucial to put your opponent on a short (2/3 turn) clock. Also, I would add 2 more Hyena Umbra and 2 Unflinching Courage in place of Gryff's Boon . Gryff's Boon should be used against a heavy control or a deck you might suspect uses Back to Nature ; keep it in the sideboard.
For a budget deck, you should run 4 Isolate in your sideboard, and should have at least 4 sources of creature removal in your main-board like the $10 Path to Exile but a very cheap replacement that usually works when you need it would be Chained to the Rocks , about a Dollar for a playset; Blazing Hope is another good budget option. Otherwise, I think Spirit mantle should be removed, It's too slow. Good Luck!
1 week ago
I don't understand why people like these cards so much? I normally feel like I am wasting mana with them. Sure they get you two lands, but they are only basic lands and one is just in your hand. Why aren't people playing more of Nature's Lore and Farseek ? They cost one less mana to cast and can fix your colors more efficiently. Farseek can grab any shock land in the game along with others like Canopy Vista or Scattered Groves , which I think is just more valuable than a card that take an extra turn to play. Nature's lore is even better because the land fetched can enter untapped, so if you fetch a Temple Garden or something, you can use it immediately to cast another card. That makes effectively cost 1 to search up a nonbasic land.
I guess what I'm saying is I don't think cultivate deserves to be in 47,000 decks on EDHREC when nature's lore is in 10,000. There are things I would rather do on turn 3 than ramp 1 basic land and put one into my hand.
If you disagree, then tell me why. I want to understand why these cards are so popular.
1 week ago
Cards I think you would appreciate in this list:
Nimbus Maze because... Nimbus Maze
Farseek to fetch dual land types.
Skyshroud Claim see above, and they can come in untapped if they are shock-lands.
3 weeks ago
-- Divine Intervention - replace with a full wipe, rather than something that lets your opponent keep their best creature.
-- Leonin Arbiter - with the amount of searching you do, I'd re-think the search denial, as it hinders your own searching for lands too.
-- Jedit Ojanen of Efrava is just... not the greatest. He's pretty lackluster.
-- Curse of Vitality is very minor lifegain.
You have an awful lot of slow lands, that come in tapped. Canopy Vista is pretty much strictly better than a Guildgate.
Soul's Majesty should be replaced with Rishkar's Expertise - it's one mana more, but can't be countered by killing the target, and it lets you cast something in your hand (even if it's not one of the things you drew).
I find Hunter's Prowess is outclassed by its uncommon counterpart, Hunter's Insight - it lacks the +3/+3, but the instant speed means you can just choose any unblocked creature, your opponents not getting the ability to block the target more to deny you cards. Also, it's 2 mana cheaper.
I'd try to find a slot for Rancor - it's a recurring way to grant trample, and +2/0 for one mana is sweet.
Lightning Greaves has screwed you over so many times in our games. Consider Swiftfoot Boots instead? The two differences are it costs mana to equip, at the trade-off of you can still target the creature later on without opening a vulnerability window with re-equip/etc, or locking you out of targeting it if it's your only creature.
3 weeks ago
I highly suggest investing a little more into your mana base. Temple Garden is good to fetch out with your Windswept Heath (as it's a dual), along with your Canopy Vista . Scattered Groves is another land to consider here, along with Savannah , if you want to blow $150 on a marginal improvement. Off-color fetches are similar; they are effectively duals as they allow you to fetch your Canopy Vista and friends. If you choose to run fewer fetches, Suppression Field can be plain brutal against a lot of decks.
I see you're running a few dorks; I advise adding a few more, as they're one of the best aspects of your colors. Arbor Elf and Llanowar Elves would be good additions. If you want more one-mana ramp spells, Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth are options that also act synergistically with Arbor Elf . Priest of Titania , Shaman of Forgotten Ways and Somberwald Sage can be great too.
Swords to Plowshares is better than Path to Exile . In EDH, giving an opponent five to ten life is unfortunate, but not terribly bad; ramping an opponent, on the other hand, can be very dangerous. I advise against spells that can help speed up your opponents.
Along that vein, slowing your opponents down is a good idea. Vryn Wingmare , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Glowrider are all good tax effects identical to Thorn of Amethyst that also can come in for damage. Gaddock Teeg is great for holding off board-wipes, as Damnation , Wrath of God and Supreme Verdict are all uncastable while he's on the field. Kataki, War's Wage is a powerhouse as well.
Depending on your meta, you may have a lot of options for color-specific interactions. Carpet of Flowers is excellent if your meta is really blue, and Choke is a pretty mean card with essentially the opposite effect.
In green, you might way to consider adding a land-recursion package if you have access to it. Ramunap Excavator is good for bringing back your fetch land(s), and thereby guarantees land drops. Exploration is an excellent card, if you're willing to spend $25 to get ahold of it, that accelerates you like crazy from turn one. Sticking a Wasteland or Strip Mine into the mix is pretty spicy too.
In creature-heavy decks, Slate of Ancestry is a powerful card-draw engine.
Natural Order is busted in Legacy Elves; it'd also be busted here. Grabbing Craterhoof Behemoth for four mana tends to end games fast, or at least put your opponents into the five to ten life range. Similarly, but significantly worse, Green Sun's Zenith , Finale of Devastation and Chord of Calling can all end games. Worth noting is that if you include Dryad Arbor in your deck, you can grab it with GSZ on turn one for one mana. Along the lines of finishers, Overwhelming Stampede is good, but I would run Triumph of the Hordes first. Be weary, as people can be salty about losing to infect in EDH.
If you choose to run some equipment in your deck, Stoneforge Mystic is good. It is approaching $40, but as you already run Sylvan Library I figured I'd mention it. I don't advise running more than two or MAYBE three equipments in your final list, and Stoneforge both fetches then and provides a body to carry them. In this vein, I do like Dragon Throne of Tarkir in your list; you should consider running Batterskull and/or Sword of Fire and Ice . Sword of Truth and Justice , from Modern Horizons, is another card you may want to consider -- I think its price will go down, at least a little.
Deftblade Elite is an interesting creature you should consider. It's good for removing the single blocker your opponent might have, especially if the blocker would kill something important of yours.
That's all I got. Good luck with deck building!
Canopy Vista occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
GW (Selesnya): 2.37%
RGW (Naya): 2.68%
GWU (Bant): 1.34%