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Distant Melody Discussion
42 minutes ago
Koka: Vanquisher's Banner only draws cards when casting creatures, not when they enter the battlefield. I only have 13 faerie creatures in this deck. I run Rhystic Study rather than Mystic Remora . I also run Kindred Discovery , Faerie Formation , Rankle, Master of Pranks , Bident of Thassa and Distant Melody for card draw.
14 hours ago
Love the deck tech and this is an archetype I have thought often of, though trying to do both artifacts and enchantments in a three-color format and not restrict your synergies can be tough. You're better off either going full enchantment or full artifact and then you'll be running a more streamlined, combotastic deck by doing so. I think you've gone heavier on the artifact side, or we'd be seeing more enchantment creatures from Theros and the Commander enchantment-creature precon and enchantment removal spells that combo with things like Blightcaster and Grim Guardian (which all combo with enchanting removal like Pacifism and Prison Realm and Dead Weight , etc.). To this artifact-heavy focus, I think Myr Retriever and Workshop Assistant are too redundant and provide only small bodies on the field when there are so many other cards that have this same effect already in the deck here ( Sharuum the Hegemon , Buried Ruin , etc.). Plus, without a sacrifice outlet, Workshop Assistant is definitely not the kind of card you want to be top-decking in situations where you've run out of steam. On the other hand, you may need more card draw rather than grave draw, since you don't self-mill, (especially if you're in a situation where Distant Melody is dead in your hand) and I think Mask of Riddles is an ideal sideboard/budget alternate for this deck. And is Ever-Watching Threshold in the pre-con? It should be. Faerie Mechanist comes to me as a distant budget option (because it only looks at the top 3 cards of your library, it's too limited to be truly useful since this deck also runs so many enchantments and creatures, but it's got tribal, flying, and it is an artifact as such is worth a mention). Finally, if you can make double-black mana work in your casting, Underworld Connections is card advantage that seems to be a staple of commander that also happens to trigger your commander. Sludge Strider can get you that life back on occasions where you have extra mana and are losing artifact creatures or sacrificing artifacts to effects (heck, even Dimir Locket and Orzhov Locket couldn't go wrong as cheap ramp that gets you card draw in the late game and triggers other effects). And take out the Winged Words from the 60-card precon, which gets you nowhere in a 100-card format, and put in at least a Terramorphic Expanse if you don't have access to better quality dual-lands. Campaign of Vengeance and Ethereal Absolution if you're really committed to going wide with your commander (I mean, with Etchings and Ethereal and your commander, you could have at least five or six 4/3 flying faeries threatening to go wider and wider). They could be protected from board wipes by an additional counterspell, like Stoic Rebuttal . I could go on and on, but definitely replace a few of the things in the precon with at least a few of these.
4 weeks ago
Alright, let's get back in the field.
Lords and Anthems
A longtime staple for tribes, dating all the way back to Zombie Master , and almost every tribe wants them. Since you're looking to put a lot of 'Crows on board, Lords of course buff them, and enables your ability to close a game without depending on commander damage. Some come with bells and whistles, and depending on what build you want, not all of these will make the cut. Anthems help with this as well, but vanilla Anthems won't give you the same mileage as a Lord. Nevertheless, it's worth considering everything at your disposal.
Adaptive Automaton - A standard Lord that mixes with any tribe, and maybe not ideal for Reaper, Lords are just good in general
Brass Herald - A little costly, but a recruiter and Lord in one is a nice option; I would only be comfortable recommending this if your creature count is high
Metallic Mimic - A de facto Lord, and is prime for ETB abuse
Etchings of the Chosen - Making your general hard to deal with should always be welcome
Radiant Destiny - I think Vigilance is a little too vanilla to make the cut in EDH, but it's worth considering
Shared Triumph - As far as Anthems go, this one is sold mostly by its appealing mana cost
Door of Destinies - Given that you will cast a lot of Scarecrows, Door will put in work
Cover of Darkness - I think Cover is a little too Voltron-ish for King, but it's an option
Kindred Boon - Mostly just protection for King and at least is worth considering
Steely Resolve - Tribe-wide Shroud seems very good for any tribe that can use it
That Which Was Taken - Protection for anything, plus synergizes with Artifact support
Drawing is strange in EDH. Not everything good is usable here since you still want to find synergy, but there are plenty of options, and most of them will serve you well on a budget.
Deep Analysis - Its initial cost can be rough, but Flashback is great,
Dig Through Time - Given how long EDH games can go, Dig usually has plenty of Delve fodder to be affordable
Distant Melody - A decent choice for any EDH tribal
Thoughtcast - Solid in anything Artifacts
Greed - It's an option
Mind Stone - Doubles over as a mana rock, but its draw ability is mainly what you want for late game
Thopter Spy Network - Generates fodder and enables draws, and while maybe not great, is nice nonetheless
Tutors and the Like
Consistency in function is crucial to your deck, and depending on who all you play with, the tempo of games could afford you time for otherwise less ideal options.
Scheming Symmetry - Better with more people at the table, but is an option
Planar Portal - Maybe a little costly, but it tutors anything and is a personal favorite
Planar Bridge - Even more costly than Portal, but can just churn a permanent out of the deck
Saheeli's Directive - Costly, but powerful, plus it gives a little extra utility to Artifacts that you don't immediately have use for or don't tap
I'm no expert in juggling lands for multicolor EDH, but there are some solid good stuff lands for such a format. This is probably where most of your attention is going to go because Shocks, Fetches, and the like are outside your budget, leaving you working with more strict cards. I'm including transforming cards because the Land forms are mostly what will concern you, although keep in mind their original forms should provide some utility as well.
Arch of Orazca - A colorless land can suck, but one that can keep cards in hand is worth noting
Command Tower - Don't question it
Glimmervoid - Staple for Artifact EDH
Mirrodin's Core - Super budget and requires some planning, but is flexible
Opal Palace - Decent fixing, plus it softens the pain of casting your general for the sixth time in a game
Path of Ancestry Color fixing with perks for casting your general
What to Ditch
This is where I start to fall off, since I've only ever built Voltron and Superfriends EDH decks. But I do have solid overall advice for deck building, period: consider what cards bring to the table. If you find that a card doesn't quite work well, look for something to better get this machine working. Try to get as much synergy out of your cards as possible, so things with linear and okay-ish function may not be worth keeping. Always test and see what happens. A lot of things that are good on paper don't iron out in practice, and likewise things that don't iron out on paper are great in practice.
Hopefully this all helps you find your way with the deck. Of course, since I'm no expert in this field, feel free to do further research for tips and cards. There are plenty of other King EDH decks on TappedOut, and people love to build things differently, so there likely are going to be things I've missed that someone else considers a no-brainer inclusion. Additionally, utilize Google and MTGSalvation for more ideas. Lastly, deckcycling puts it on the front page for people to see, and possibly give you a hand. There's a lot of room to build here, and there are likewise a lot of people who can advise you.
1 month ago
I highly suggest Preordain to accompany your Ponder and Brainstorm . One-mana cantrips are great: They'll dig you to lands if you need them, or past them if you don't. Note that these Xerox-style cards allow you to run fewer lands, as it becomes easier to find the lands when you really need them. I suggest you run around thirty-three or thirty-four lands, at most. Similarly, Faithless Looting is great.
Windfall deserves to come out of the Maybeboard into the main. I think it's better than Skyscribing , as you can cast it after an opponent tutors and make them discard whatever they got; additionally, if an opponent has more cards than you, Windfall becomes card-positive. Additionally, pairing Windfall with your Narset, Parter of Veils is... good.
Mass-draw is always good. Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time are great, though running both is slightly questionable (delving one makes the other tougher to cast). If you run Dack Fayden out of the Maybeboard (I suggest doing that), then delving becomes easier. I see Distant Melody in your Maybeboard; I think the effect is powerful, but Slate of Ancestry is better.
One-for-ones like Outnumber are alright in one-on-one games, but in a usual EDH game you typically have three opponents. I think boardwipes, in addition to your Cyclonic Rift , are probably the way to go. Rolling Earthquake is a great red boardwipe in most decks, but I think straight Earthquake is better in this one (it lets your bug-things live). Similarly, By Force is great as artifact-hate.
Coat of Arms is an interesting include. I think Shared Animosity is probably better deserving of that slot, if only because it is asymmetric and more affordable mana-wise. Typically you'll have a lot of bug-duders, so not pumping toughness isn't a big deal (they're disposable). However, this may be a meta-call.
In colors outside green, ramp is difficult to find but still important. I suggest reexamining your rock-package; there're a lot of good rocks out there. Talisman of Creativity , Mind Stone , Fellwar Stone , the soon-to-release Arcane Signet , Coldsteel Heart , Fire Diamond and Sky Diamond are all good. In general, two-mana ramp is better than three-mana ramp, since by turn three you want to be casting more powerful cards and/or landing a threat. If you have access, Mana Vault and Mana Crypt are excellent ways to turbo-out your general.
Depending on your budget, your mana-base can be improved. Prismatic Vista seems really good, especially since fetches massively improve your Brainstorm . Steam Vents is around $11 these days, and is also a good include.
If you don't want to run a lot of non-basics, you can craft a sort of blue-moon package into this deck; in my experience, this can shut down a lot of opponents. Back to Basics , Magus of the Moon and Blood Moon are all good ways to take advantage of a basic-based land-base, and punish suckers like me for playing more complicated mana-bases. Cutting a bunch of your colorless lands, like Ghost Quarter or Tectonic Edge , for Snow-Covered Island can end up allowing you access to your colors while still running non-basic hate.
I don't think Arcanis the Omnipotent is very good. Six-mana is a lot to pay, and having to wait a turn-cycle before you can start drawing cards is a big drawback that gives your opponents a long time to kill him. For six-mana, you want a bigger punch; I suggest bringing out your Consecrated Sphinx or Niv-Mizzet, Parun from your Maybeboard instead.
Finally, Mr. Steal-yo-Gurl cards are great as a form of spot removal. Vedalken Shackles , Control Magic , Sower of Temptation and Treachery are all great ways to make opposing threats into your threats.
Good luck! Love this general.
1 month ago
I see a few areas for improvement:
So one of the main reasons to play green is the mana dorks. You should at least be running Birds of Paradise , Llanowar Elves and Elves of Deep Shadow , and you should probably be running a few more as well. Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Priest of Titania , Arbor Elf , Bloom Tender , Boreal Druid and Deathrite Shaman are also worth considering.
Card-draw is a big part of EDH. Distant Melody is good in any tribal deck, and depending on your typical board presence Slate of Ancestry may be worth considering, too. Fact or Fiction , Painful Truths , Treasure Cruise , Dig Through Time , Night's Whisper , Windfall , Harmonize and Concentrate are also good draw-spells. Sylvan Library and Phyrexian Arena are good pieces of permanent-based card-advantage. Mystic Remora is excellent, if transient, and at more inexperienced tables it can easily be an Ancestral Recall .
Your mana-base is worth rethinking, too. Overgrown Tomb , Breeding Pool and Watery Grave are all relatively affordable these days (because of the reprint), and City of Brass and Mana Confluence are worth running in a three-color deck, too. Depending on your budget, you may want to run fetch-lands like Polluted Delta or Prismatic Vista ; lower-budget options include Bad River , Flood Plain or the other slow-fetches. Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse , too. Llanowar Wastes , Yavimaya Coast , Underground River , Waterlogged Grove , Nurturing Peatland , Hinterland Harbor , Woodland Cemetery and Drowned Catacomb are more good dual-lands.
If you do end up running any sort of fetches, you'll have a bunch of shuffle-effects. This means Brainstorm becomes a powerful spell, as you can shuffle away bad cards while digging for the ones you want. Ponder , Preordain and Impulse are great as well.
Tutors are great -- then you don't even need to bother digging, as you can just go get what you want. Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are the gold standard, but as a pair they'll likely run you around $100. Diabolic Tutor , Lim-Dul's Vault and Dark Petition are all far more accessible. Mystical Tutor and Worldly Tutor are also good, though I don't think they'd be as good as the non-restricted tutors.
You also need to consider removal. Toxic Deluge , Pernicious Deed , Damnation , Decree of Pain and Cyclonic Rift are all great boardwipes. Nature's Claim , Krosan Grip , Casualties of War , Assassin's Trophy , Abrupt Decay , Windgrace's Judgment and Ashes to Ashes are good forms of spot-removal.
Finally, you might want to consider a reanimation package. Entomb or Buried Alive paired with Animate Dead , Reanimate , Dance of the Dead or Necromancy is a great way to get fatties out fast. Reanimating Grave Titan , Massacre Wurm or Inkwell Leviathan can swing the game in your favor real fast.
1 month ago
1 month ago
I don't think you need more combos... I think you need better mana, tutors and card draw to make your current combos more consistent. Running one or two combos is probably good enough, especially since zombie decks tend to be good at the beat-face plan, too. Counter-magic is worth considering, though not everyone likes running it.
Mana: Ramp is a big part of EDH. Having fast, reliable access to your colors is indispensable -- this is part of the reason two-cost rocks are better than three-cost rocks. I think Talisman of Dominance is probably better than Commander's Sphere . It comes down a turn earlier, and it allows you to cast your general turn three. Cards like Charcoal Diamond , Sky Diamond and Coldsteel Heart are also good, though their coming into play tapped is a real setback. Underground River is a land you should consider, as are Morphic Pool and Drowned Catacomb .
Tutors: Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are the gold-standard here, though they're also rather hard to get ahold of. I like Dark Petition and Diabolic Tutor ; you might want to consider Entomb or Buried Alive to get your Gravecrawler and friends into the 'yard. If you include Animate Dead , Reanimate , Necromancy , Exhume and/or Dance of the Dead you can get out your Grave Titan or Overseer of the Damned real fast. Reanimation packages are good.
Card Draw: There're a few cards I think you either didn't know about or overlooked in this area.
Graveborn Muse : This card is BUSTED in zombie decks. Even staying out for just one turn cycle can get you four or five cards easily, making it a way better Phyrexian Arena . If you choose to run something like Whip of Erebos , you can pretty easily recoup the life.
Cantrips: Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm are all excellent cards; in Vintage, these are signatures of Xerox-decks. They'll dig you to lands if you need them, and get you past lands if you don't. Note that Brainstorm goes from OK to really good with the inclusion of shuffle-effects, like your Evolving Wilds . Running more of these lands, like Prismatic Vista , Flooded Strand , Polluted Delta , or even just Bad River or Rocky Tar Pit is a good idea.
Treasure Cruise / Dig Through Time : These are good ways to utilize lands or similar non-functional-in-graveyard cards you mill with Gisa and Geralf . Depending on how full your yard typically ends up, running one or both of these is probably a good idea.
Distant Melody : I'm not sure how many zombies you have, but having an average of four or more zombies will make this worth including.
Undead Augur : This card will help you out-draw opponents.
Corpse Harvester : While not technically card-draw, it is a good form of card-advantage. It'll get you both swamps and whatever creature you need. If you include Fetid Pools , Sunken Hollow or Watery Grave , you can fetch those, too.
Fact or Fiction : This is card-draw and self-mill all packed into one card.
Patriarch's Bidding : This is a great way for tribal decks to come back from a boardwipe.
Coat of Arms : This is a lot of mana to invest in an easily-killed artifact, though it is worth considering. This can rather easily pump your guys with +5/+5.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel : This is a good way to recoup life, while at the same time pressuring your opponents' life totals.
Rot Hulk : I'd run this in any zombie deck.
Exclude : In a creature-heavy meta, this is probably worth running as it does not cost card advantage.
Right -- that's all from me. Good luck!
1 month ago
So, a couple things: 40 lands is too many for this deck, I'd go down to 38 or maybe even 37 because of the new mulligan rule. I'd also work on the balance of mana based on the colors you have in the deck, taking out some Swamps and replacing them with Islands, and maybe trying to find a few more dual lands because you don't really gave too many and having mostly basics will make it easy for you to get color screwed. Maybe a few more artifacts like a Dimir Signet , Sol Ring for obvious reasons, and Fellwar Stone , stuff like that.
It also seems like you're stuck between Faerie tribal and mill. Personally I'd go with mill, because it's probably cheaper. You can take out cards like Final-Sting Faerie , Nectar Faerie , Quickling , Thornwind Faeries , Wasp Lancer , Distant Melody , Bident of Thassa , Violet Pall , and Faerie Tauntings . You could put cards like Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , Fraying Sanity , Jace, Memory Adept , Sire of Stagnation , Hedron Crab (I have one of these that you can use), Lazav, Dimir Mastermind , Notion Thief , and Nemesis of Reason in order to strengthen your mill plan, and if you wanna win with tokens out of nowhere, you can put in Scion of Oona to keep your tokens safe.
I would also put in some more removal, like Murder , Cast Down , Rapid Hybridization , Go for the Throat , Hero's Downfall , or similar cards. I really like the inclusion of cards like Crypt Incursion and Startled Awake Flip, because those are just really cool cards. This deck has potential, I think you made a really solid first draft.
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