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Burly Breaker
Creature — Human Werewolf
Ward (Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
Daybound (When this enters the battlefield, if it's not day or night, this game becomes day for all players. If a player casts no spells during their own turn, this game becomes night for all players next turn during the untap step. When it becomes night, all permanents on the battlefield transform into their nightbound side if they have one, and any new permanents that enter the battlefield will enter on their nightbound side if they have one. Becoming day/night does not use the stack and cannot be responded to.)
multimedia on Werewolf Raid - Tovolar Commander Werewolf Tribal
2 years ago
Hey, well done, nice version and foil Huntmaster. You're a better deck builder than you think, but you did forget Sol Ring ;)
There's some cards here that aren't as good as others. The only sorcery speed removal you should play are board wipes that can kill more than one thing. Single effect removal is always better as instant that way you can respond to something an opponent does. Rabid Bite is not good when Beast Within and Chaos Warp are options. Decimate is fine since it can target more than one thing among many players. Blasphemous Act is an example of a strong creature board wipe in muliplayer Commander where it can be consistently cast for only one mana. Vandalblast can destroy all your opponents artifacts.
Human Werewolves who are 5, 4, 3 CMC who only have one ability such as trample or reach and don't give you anything else when transformed or on the backside of the card are really subpar compared to all the other much better Werewolves here. Tavern Ruffian Flip, Tireless Hauler Flip, Harvesttide Infiltrator Flip, Bird Admirer Flip, Ulvenwald Mystics Flip, Burly Breaker Flip could all be cut. Some Human Werewolves who could replace these: Reckless Stormseeker Flip, Realmwalker, Breakneck Rider Flip, Village Messenger Flip.
There's 5 sources of ramp here which is low amount with only 33 lands. With 33 lands then you really need more ramp, 10 or more sources. 0-2 CMC ramp is best because ideally you want to cast ramp in the early turns of the game when you don't have very many lands. 0-2 CMC ramp can replace lands since getting two lands is not as difficult as getting three or more. Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are staple budget ramp sources in Commander. Thought Vessel is helpful for more no max hand size and/or Crop Rotation to get Reliquary Tower.
Some colors have problems with having enough ramp options, but when playing green that's not a problem and you can take advantage of land ramp spells that can get a dual land Stomping Ground or Cinder Glade: Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Farseek and Harrow is nice basic land ramp. These ramp sources could replace: Bounding Wolf, Howl of the Hunt, Unnatural Moonrise, Mage Slayer.
Some changes to consider:
- Sol Ring --> Bounding Wolf
- Arcane Signet --> Tavern Ruffian
- Reckless Stormseeker Flip --> Tireless Hauler
- Realmwalker --> Harvesttide Infiltrator
- Breakneck Rider Flip --> Bird Admirer
- Village Messenger Flip --> Burly Breaker
- Thought Vessel --> Howl of the Hunt
- Nature's Lore --> Mage Slayer
- Three Visits --> Ulvenwald Mystics
- Beast Within --> Rabid Bite
- Chaos Warp --> Return to Nature
- Farseek --> Unnatural Moonrise
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Tovolar's Wolfpack
2 years ago
Hey, well done on a budget for your first deck, nice Huntmaster of the Fells Flip.
Some budget cards to consider adding:
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Druids' Repository: each time a creature you control attacks you put a counter. At your post combat main phase you can then remove counters to make mana to cast the cards you drew from your creatures doing combat damage to opponents. You can remove counters at any point of the game to make mana.
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Champion of Lambholt: makes creatures you control unblockable and it triggers whenever a token creature is created. Pair her with Howlpack Alpha, Tovolar's Packleader Flip, Cult of the Waxing Moon, Wolfcaller's Howl, etc.
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Wolfcaller's Howl: in multiplayer Commander this can be a repeatable source of a lot of Wolves for no extra mana cost. It can be quick repeatable recovery from board wipes.
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Breath of Fury: can be repeatable extra attacks that combos with Tovolar's Packleader Flip and a haste enabler for as many extra attacks as you want.
- Regrowth and Dryad's Revival: any card recursion.
- Fires of Yavimaya: haste enabler, even for token creatures, needed to combo with Packleader and Breath.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Arlinn, Voice of the Pack: compare her to Tovolar's Huntmaster Flip for a budget six drop who creates Wolves and she's really lackluster.
- Burly Breaker Flip: vanilla five drop Werewolf.
- Somberwald Alpha: subpar four drop Wolf, you have better trample enablers.
- Fangblade Brigand Flip: subpar four drop Werewolf.
- Moonrager's Slash
- Waxing Moon
- Door of Destinies: expensive price, too slow, not needed because you have Coat of Arms.
Some budget land upgrades to consider:
- Unclaimed Territory --> Gruul Guildgate
- Tyrite Sanctum --> 1x Forest
- Jund Panorama --> 1x Forest
- Naya Panorama --> 1x Forest
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Werewolves on the hunt
2 years ago
Hey, good attempt for a budget version of Tovolar. nice Aggravated Assault. You've mistakenly added two Tovolar's Huntmaster Flip :)
The card that combos with Spellbinder is Savage Beating for extra attacks which is now a $30 card. Without having Beating then Spellbinder is not worth playing because there's only 5 instants here out of 94 other cards.
When you control five or more lands then Bear Umbra enchanted to a creature who can keep attacking can pair with Aggravated Assault for extra attacks. Attacking with five or more creatures makes Druids' Repository combo with Assault. Savage Ventmaw who can keep attacking combos with Assault and also makes infinite green/red mana. Umbra could replace Spellbinder, Repository could replace Mantle of the Wolf and Ventmaw could replace the other copy Huntmaster.
Consider more one, two, three drop Werewolves to replace the vanilla four and five drop Werewolves?
- Scorned Villager Flip
- Realmwalker: changeling, it's a Werewolf and a Wolf.
- Kruin Outlaw Flip
- Geier Reach Bandit Flip
- Daybreak Ranger Flip
- Breakneck Rider Flip
- Village Messenger Flip
- Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip
- Reckless Waif Flip
- Lambholt Elder Flip
- Wolfbitten Captive Flip
Some of these could replace:
- Tormented Pariah Flip
- Tavern Ruffian Flip
- Tireless Hauler Flip
- Burly Breaker Flip
- Villagers of Estwald Flip
- Harvesttide Infiltrator Flip
- Bird Admirer Flip
- Spellrune Painter Flip
- Fangblade Brigand Flip
A couple of reasons for these changes is to get three or more Werewolves onto the battlefield to transform Tovolar quicker and have more Werewolves that can give you value rather than just only being Werewolves.
Some lands to consider adding, replacing of some basic lands.
- Karplusan Forest
- Unclaimed Territory
- Cinder Glade
- Rockfall Vale
- Rootbound Crag
- Fire-Lit Thicket
- Game Trail
- Naya Panorama
- Jund Panorama
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Gruul Werewolf Pack
2 years ago
Hey, interesting high budget version of Tovolar with less Werewolves.
Human Werewolves that don't have day/night still count towards and transform when Tovolar upkeep triggers. The better Werewolves not having day/night is not really a drawback with Tovolar. Because Tovolar can repeatedly change from day to night then you have more chances to transform nonday/night Werewolves. If you play a nonday/night Werewolf after Tovolar transforms that's fine because more than likely Tovolar will flip back daybound giving you another chance to transform all Human Werewolves you control at your upkeep.
If you want to play a small amount of Werewolves then the ones you play really should give you more than just being a Werewolf.
- Mayor of Avabruck Flip
- Huntmaster of the Fells Flip
- Tovolar's Huntmaster
- Duskwatch Recruiter Flip
- Kessig Naturalist
- Scorned Villager Flip
- Reckless Stormseeker Flip: day/night Werewolf
- Outland Liberator Flip: day/night Werewolf
With such a high budget you can do better than the vanilla Werewolves who don't give you anything when they're Humans as well as when they nightbound transform? Many of the Wolves are also subpar compared to all other cards here. If you're playing the Wolves just to be able to upkeep trigger Tovolar faster any Human Werewolf will do the same thing and give you more than any of these Wolves.
Wolves and Werewolves to consider cutting:
- Pestilent Wolf, Bounding Wolf, Lambholt Harrier, Snarling Wolf
- Tireless Hauler Flip, Burly Breaker Flip, Spellrune Painter Flip
Really nice Fetch lands, but consider playing a Forest/Mountain dual land to fetch: Stomping Ground, Cinder Glade, Sheltered Thicket? Adding these lands will also give Farseek a dual land to search for instead of only being able to search for a basic Mountain. Also by adding some Forest/Mountain dual lands then you could improve the land ramp spells with Nature's Lore and Three Visits.
Some changes to consider:
- Stomping Ground --> Vivid Grove
- Cinder Glade --> Thriving Grove
- Sheltered Thicket --> Temple of Abandon
- Nature's Lore --> Lay of the Land
- Three Visits --> Rampant Growth
Some other lands that would improve the manabase by cutting some basic lands especially Mountains:
- Spire Garden
- Grove of the Burnwillows
- Karplusan Forest
- Rogue's Passage
- Cragcrown Pathway Flip
- Fire-Lit Thicket
- Rootbound Crag
- Game Trail
Arcane Signet could replace Herald's Horn since Horn doesn't do much if you're not tribal. With so few Werewolves or Humans as well as many different creature types then a mana rock would make more ramp.
Door of Destinies is another tribal only card and it's very slow with so few Werewolves or Humans to cast. Could cut Door for Beastmaster Ascension since it's an anthem for all creatures you control.
Good luck with your deck.
Color_pie14 on The Music of the Nighthowling
2 years ago
Thank you, Ziabo! My friend recommended cutting Arlinn and Waxing Moon, but I was waffling on them, so thank you so much for giving a second opinion! I cut those and Burly Breaker Flip, but I cut Silverfur Partisan instead of Sword of Body and Mind. I’m keeping that in there for now, since it gives my commander protection, evasion, and token production. I will keep it mind for future cuts, though! Thank you!
Ziabo on The Music of the Nighthowling
2 years ago
I'd drop Burly Breaker Flip he's a heavy cost for little to no reward.
Arlinn, Voice of the Pack cost quite a bit for what she does.
Sword of Body and Mind I see why you added it but it has pro green which means you lose interaction with equipped creature as well. The token creation is cute but has to make contact with a player which might not always happen.
Waxing Moon Just cuz you need 1 more card out and Idk what else I'd drop lol.
Hopefully this helps. This is just my opinion.
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