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1 hour ago
I'm not sure what kind of budget you're looking at, so I'm going to try to keep from suggesting anything too up there.
I'd swap out Purphoros for Reckless Fireweaver . You'll probably end up doing the same amount of damage, but I've found it paints less of a target on you. And Riddlesmith can give you an effect that's similar to Jhoira's, if you want the redundancy.
Stoic Rebuttal is at best Counterspell , and at worst no better than Cancel , so I would just run Counterspell. I know you'll have the Metalcraft 99% of the time, but other than flavor there's no reason to use it instead.
One of the nice things about this deck is how little color mana you need, so I'd upgrade your lands. Since you're running two artifact lands you may as well add in Darksteel Citadel too. Buried Ruin is great for any artifact heavy deck. And Ash Barrens , Grixis Panorama , and Shivan Reef can help color fix for you without slowing you down or hurting you too much. You only have four potential triggers (plus I guess two more for the X spells you have) for Sanctum of Ugin , so I would run another tutor over it, but that's a personal preference. I would also swap out more Mountains for Islands, since your deck is blue heavy, but if you don't have any problems with the ratio then don't worry about it.
Hope some of this was helpful!
1 day ago
Of course, I don't know what your budget is, but I would suggest cutting Dovin's Veto and Narset's Reversal for better counterspells like Force of Will and Counterspell . Also, have you considered Jace, the Mind Sculptor ? I think that he is great in most blue EDH decks, especially superfriends. Once, using my Atraxa deck (Listen to the Praetors' Voice), I Got Jace, the Mind Sculptor up to 7, then played Deepglow Skate and used his -12. That was fun!
2 days ago
TypicalTimmy There are plenty of counterspells, and ways to protect your pieces. Generally, the deck moves so quickly that most opponents either don't have enough mana to interact or they are countered and then I combo off.
I plan on adding more wincons as I acquire them such as Walking Ballista and Codex Shredder , Brain Freeze , and maybe a Deadeye Navigator . I dont build lists with cards I don't own though. The idea is to win with infinite mana as fast as possible. It can even be turn one, or two.
I lost the dice roll so I went second. Opponent 1 played a swamp and, Indulgent Aristocrat and passed turn. Start my first turn. I drew into Mystic Remora Played my Island. Played Chrome Mox with Frozen AEther imprinted on it. Tapped my Island to play Mystic Remora Tapped my Chrome Mox to cast my Sol Ring . Passed turn. Oppenent 2 played an Island and, then Sol Ring , didn't pay the 4, I drew a card. Card Drawn was Mana Crypt . Oppenent 2 passed turn. Opponent 3 played a Plains and Sigarda's Aid , didnt pay the 4, I drew a card. Card Drawn was Dramatic Reversal Opponent 3 passed turn. Opponent 1 Draws, and plays a Temple Garden , taps Swamp, and Temple Garden to play Legion Lieutenant . Swings with 2 creatures at Opponent 3. Opponent 1 ends turn. Start my turn 2 Didn't pay the mana for the Mystic Remora , so it was gone now. Drew my card for turn. Memnite Played my land Ancient Tomb Played Mana Crypt Tapped Ancient Tomb , and two Islands to cast Urza, Lord High Artificer Put ** Construct into play. Tap Mana Crypt to play Isochron Scepter with Dramatic Reversal imprinted. Tap Sol Ring to tap Isochron Scepter and untap all nonland permanents. Tap all my artifacts for blue mana, generating 4 Blue Mana. Use 2 Blue Mana to tap Isochron Scepter . Repeat into infinity. Exile my whole library. Play Laboratory Maniac without paying its mana cost. Play Brainstorm without paying it's mana cost. Game won. Turn two. Opponent 2 had an Arcane Denial in hand but couldn't cast it. Only had colorless mana available. Opponent 3 was had no mana, and no response.
2 days ago
@bushido_man96: Hmph. I guess that is an understandable case of yours. Very well. It's in. Negate should be a no-brainer also, but I'd look silly if I didn't run it in any Based deck that doesn't run also ( Dovin's Veto would be a better choice IMO, though Negate is just fine also.) Ironic I haven't used Disallow for quite a while, I liked it. & a 2/2 Flier is only marginal as a downside. So the following other stuff will be added. Anything else not noted will be explained why:
Counterspell : The Golden Answer; in the form of a famous quote from The Phantom Tollbooth: Why not?
Foil : Losing one life is a minor draw back, but EXILING a card also? I apologize for this, but this is why I wanted to know how Rashmi, Eternities Crafter can recur Exiled stuff. I wish I could ask someone about this while Rashmi is still Tier 2... Discarding 2 cards at least means there is potential of some kind of Recursion Engine, Is also cheaper to even HARDCAST, & you don't need Riftsweeper to get your exiled stuff back. That, & I'd prefer Mana Drain Force of Will anyway. It also sucks that Riftsweeper isn't a Human; she's a damned Elf. Crap.
Arcane Denial : Well, I guess I could punish someone for having a hand in the first place... Tee-Hee…~
Disallow : Wow. How fragging long has it been since I used this? If there is any better; Most likely not, I replace this.
Negate : The Silver Answer as I parody The Phantom Tollbooth: Because Dovin demands you to, or you will be detained. XP
Ah, whatever. I think that should be good enough; I already mentioned why Force of Will doesn't make the cut. Now, after I add these, I think it's time to chop some Theros Glop...
2 days ago
@bushido_man96: I suppose. Foil is inferior to even Force of Will (How did that get more expensive than Mana Drain ?!), but at least I can do some recursion. Counterspell 's a no-brainer, but why Arcane Denial ? I mean, it could be incorporated as a Milling method before someone gets out Laboratory Maniac , or even Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , but I still wonder myself...
2 days ago
4 days ago
Daveslab2022, I realized what they were driving at and was trying to use rhetoric to get OP to realize that ordering of triggers is not ordering of events. Nothing, not even in UN sets, allows you to change the order that events happened in. A single effect causing a mass zone change is the only way that anything ever happens simultaneously, and that has no ordering at all to be rearranged. Game events always have a well defined order that they happen in. Triggers and Replacement effects are the only things that get ordered.
There is nothing misleading about triggered abilities. Triggered abilities wait until their trigger condition has been matched to do anything. Therefore Lotus Field is on the battlefield when its ability triggers. Since it can't enter the battlefield to trigger the ability before it is on the battlefield due to it entering the battlefield. Replacement effects are what modifies an event as it is happening. The oracle text of Lotus Vale shows that its ability is a replacement effect. "If Lotus Vale would enter the battlefield, sacrifice two untapped lands instead. If you do, put Lotus Vale onto the battlefield. If you don’t, put it into its owner’s graveyard."
To answer the Hydroid Krasis point that got brought up earlier, the life gain and draw always happen before Hydroid Krasis resolves. Once again it is because triggers don't happen until their trigger event has happened. The first step of casting a spell is to put it on the stack. You can't have cast the spell to trigger the ability before you put the spell on the stack to cast it. The on-cast trigger goes on the stack above the spell and resolves first. Same scenario with Rhystic Study . The study trigger always resolves first and you can use a Counterspell drawn from them not paying the to counter their spell.
5 days ago
TypicalTimmy Fennatalmb actually feels more insane the more i think about it. at first glance it felt similar to God-Eternal Kefnet 's ability, but then it hit me .... on second cast the ability to say no with a Counterspell twice is godly, not to mention the storm enablers, cantrips, removal that URW gives you, AND Sunforger /other copy effects is definatly Powerful, maybe overpowered to cEDH banworthy-ness ... free is always broken, but its a fun and interesting design.
Lazuth the Dissolute
Legendary Creature - Merfolk Ooze Mutant
Whenever you cast Lazuth the Dissolute, create X 0/1 Merfolk Ooze tokens.
other Merfolk you control gain +1/+1 and swampwalk
whenever an ooze you control dies, exile target card from an opponents graveyard.
tried to balance the shadowfolk with the guildedfolk in an new design space for Sultai.
keep it going, more tricolor unique-ness
Counterspell occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.68%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.29%
UB (Dimir): 2.59%
WU (Azorius): 2.96%
UR (Izzet): 1.8%
GU (Simic): 1.65%
WUB (Esper): 1.4%
UBR (Grixis): 1.34%
GWU (Bant): 1.1%
BUG (Sultai): 1.08%