Path of Ancestry
Path of Ancestry enters the battlefield tapped.
: Gain one mana of any colour in your commander's colour identity. When that mana is spent to cast a creature spell that shares a creature type with your commander, scry 1.
|Want (5)||Jaek , dustybrush , shpadoinkle , YOURBOISLIM2002 , E-Bone|
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|Commander 2020 (C20)||Common|
|Commander 2017 (C17)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Path of Ancestry Discussion
3 days ago
@Peoni: No worries, site notifications are often really broken here haha.
Totally right about Path of Ancestry, I added it in at first when I wasn't sure of all the creatures I was gonna have and I completely forgot to cut it later!!! Love the suggestions for replacements, thanks!
Everything else you said makes sense also, I'm going to be making all those changes asap :) I love Pongify and Rapid Hybridization, I used to have a whole bunch of the latter way back when it was standard-legal and cheap and I have absolutely no idea where they ended up but they're not with me anymore, haha. Tragic Slip is super fun and I have some spare ones too, but in a deck that can't reliably kill something else to trigger Morbid I'm not sure if it's the best idea? I'll add in the others and bring it in if there's space left :)
3 days ago
Never got a notification for this for some reason hmmmmm.. I might be a bit late but I'm definitely happy to help. :^)
Starting with your lands, they look pretty solid. This is SUPER nitpicky, but Path of Ancestry doesn't feel like a good fit here. This deck isn't exactly a tribal, and it only has 7 cards it can scry off of. It may give you any color you need, but the coming in tapped bit would make me steer clear. The decision is totally up to you though because it isn't necessarily a bad card, but just keep in mind I'm really finicky when it comes to mana coming in tapped lol. Alchemist's Refuge and Emergence Zone might be fun picks. Dropping 1000 1000/1000 Oozes or Wurms on your turn is certainly good, but even better would be your opponent's end step. >:^)
Your ramp might need a little more focusing between the auras, dorks, and rocks. I might recommend a few more rocks in Talisman of Curiosity and Talisman of Resilience, but I think auras are going to be your focus considering your untap synergies, so more cards like Wild Growth, Wolfwillow Haven, Overgrowth, and Verdant Haven would make for nice additions. That being said, I think the dorks should probably come out, along with maybe your more expensive auras Dawn's Reflection and Market Festival. Ramp cards that in my opinion definitely need to come out are Heartbeat of Spring and Dictate of Karametra purely because of their symmetry. Group hug effects like these are super dangerous, and I really don't think you need them in order to pull off your strat. That being said, I think you should cut Tidal Barracuda for similar reasons. Giving people flash is risky, even if they can't cast stuff on your turn.
Card draw suggestions I would make for now would be to consider targeted X draw spells like Blue Sun's Zenith and Stroke of Genius instead of Mind Spring, as they can also be used with infinite mana to deck your opponents. Brainstorm is almost always a good addition. I also think cutting Gadwick, the Wizened wouldn't be a bad move. He's difficult to cast outside of having infinite blue mana and he doesn't really have the best synergy with the rest of your deck.
For your removal I would suggest perhaps adding in some lower CMC options like Pongify or Rapid Hybridization as nice cheap spot removal. Dismember or Tragic Slip are also nice black options that get around indestructible. Any removal will do, really, and so it's again all up to you. I just like these a lot.
I'll leave it at that for now, and when you've made changes we can figure out what else needs to be added/cut. :^)
1 week ago
My girlfriend just asked me to put Slivers back together. Anyways, as far as the land base goes I'm gunna list. Things out by cost/relevancy
duals I know eww reserved list but if you got em or can proxy em play em
fetches they're getting their reprint in modern horizons 2 but still stupid expensive - but the fixing is just so good!
Reflecting Pool, Cavern of Souls, City of Brass, Tarnished Citadel, Mana Confluence, Forbidden Orchard, Exotic Orchard, Meteor Crater, Pillar of the Paruns, Ancient Ziggurat, Path of Ancestry, Thran Quarry, Gemstone Mine, Aether Hub and Tendo Ice Bridge
I'm not a mega fan of the depletion lands but they're excellent if you're on a budget :)
shocks - you already got a few I'll recommend getting the rest
Utility lands very overpriced cardboard but the power is definitely there
From there, if those cards are out of budget/you cannot proxy I'd go with the Triomes, battlebond lands Sea of Clouds, check lands Hinterland Harbor, and lastly the painlands Battlefield Forge beyond those the lands start becoming too inefficient and you will be targeted playing slivers. Even if you're not the threat having a slow land base is a death sentence. Hope this helped :)
1 week ago
You could cut down on the basic lands. if you have enough land ramp, you only really need like 36 lands, which can include your Kazandu Mammoth Flip since it's a land on the other side. I'd suggest something like 2 mountains, 2 islands, 1 plains, something like that. You can also swap Harmonize and Shamanic Revelation with other draw options, since harmonize is like, base level, cheap draw for green, and there's lots of other options for it, and shamanic revelation kinda relies on you getting a token generator, or spending several turns bringing out a bunch of creatures, to get a good number of cards.
If you really want a "draw some cards now" Return of the Wildspeaker costs 1 more then harmonize, but will put in a little more work if you get bigger creatures out, and has the option of pumping your army late game for a potential win.
You can also go without Jungle Shrine, since it's not very searchable, comes in tapped, and doesnt tap for blue. If you need the colors, Exotic Orchard and Path of Ancestry are cheap options that (can) tap for all four colors.
1 week ago
TriusMalarky Awesome, thanks for thinking along! I like these nitty-gritty disussions.
Re: tapped lands suck
First off: My current tapped-count is at 6 (wilds, terramorphic, necro, path, vivid x 2) - I guess you could count 2 tango and 2 checklands for 0.5 tapland each, bringing our total to 8. With 37 lands I actually think the odds are pretty decent that I can run T1 tapland, T2 untapped land, enabling my 2cmc ramp spells and going from there. I'm therefore not sure this is all too bad, but a bit more in depth:
The idea behind Vivid Creek and Vivid Marsh is that they're lands that function as 3c lands most of the time (especially during set-up), and with proliferation going all of the time. It's also possible to use them without removing counters if you're using them on ramp for example, so it's not like they always deplete. I agree the tapped clause is a real cost for something that's not guaranteed, and I could be convinced they're not as great as I think they are, but I think they'd do OK.
I agree Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse aren't the best. I have thought about replacing these with tapped duals, but those don't help out my tango / check lands. It's very possible regular basics are better here though.
Awesome suggestion. They're more powerful than the vivid cycle for sure and, don't get me wrong, providing 2 mana as a land is amazing but:
they're not basics
they come into play tapped
they don't fix my mana
they end up literal dead really quickly if i don't find a proliferation piece (not having played the deck, this concerns me the most)
I'm tempted to try them because when it works it's amazing, but I don't think they're a slam dunk except for when you're in magical christmas land. I need to think about the times when the deck's not firing on all cilinders more than when everything's already going great (i.e. i have time to proliferate). If it turns out that i easily proliferate all the time i'll add them asap.
Re: Ramp and artifacts
This gets me to 4 signets, 3 talismans, chalice, prism, sol ring, that's 10 ramp < 3cmc. Adding cornucopia and relic gives me 12 which should get me one in hand roughly 60% of the time (almost 90% if you count the free mulligan as 7 extra looks) - which is great. Looking at my curve most of my business happens at 4cmc, so getting there asap is key.
Hard disagree on Throne of Geth. Have you played with this card? (I haven't.) It seems I'll have some (maybe even a lot of) spare artifacts lying around, which makes this repeated, instant speed proliferation. Absolute worst-case you can sac it to itself. I'd even argue this is very efficient (and cheap), even though the resource cost for using it is different. It seems like a great thing to copy with something like Saheeli, Sublime Artificer too.
Lithoform Engine may be inefficient, but doubling proliferate triggers or god-forbid planeswalker ultimates is simply too spicy not to run. You could be right but if this isn't the home for this card I'd like to find out.
I have to agree on Solemn Simulacrum - it's too expensive for the deck and doesn't really do much other than provide generic value. I think I'll cut this for another walker, maybe I'll try Jace, Cunning Castaway for the memes.
Thanks again for you time, I look forward to your reply
2 weeks ago
Over the next month I will be Foil/Showcasing the Land & Eladamri's Call as I get them in the mail. This deck will be almost 100% foil/Showcase Art Cards(not counting cards that were not printed in foils yet) like Trove Warden, Path of Ancestry, Nature's Lore, Herald's Horn, Sol Ring, Enlightened Tutor, & Worldly Tutor which are just too good to swap out... I can live with 7 normal ones I guess lol.
3 weeks ago
Assuming you still would like help, here are my thoughts just going off what you already have (so your mainboard and sideboard).
First of all your land situation needs to be sorted out. You have an insanely high average cmc (4.74) so you're going to be looking at about 40 lands without the very pricy ramp cards. 30 lands is in the range that decks with an average of about 2cmc or lower run. Here's a quickly made list of your lands that I'd use:
- Bloodstained Mire
- Canopy Vista
- Cavern of Souls
- Cinder Glade
- Command Tower
- Dragonskull Summit
- Drowned Catacomb
- Exotic Orchard
- Fabled Passage
- Flooded Strand
- Godless Shrine
- Haven of the Spirit Dragon
- Indatha Triome
- Ketria Triome
- Path of Ancestry
- Prairie Stream
- Reflecting Pool
- Sacred Foundry
- Savai Triome
- Scalding Tarn
- Smoldering Marsh
- Sunken Hollow
- Sunpetal Grove
- Unclaimed Territory
- Watery Grave
- Wooded Foothills
- Woodland Cemetery
- Zagoth Triome
- 1x Island
- 1x Plains
- 1x Swamp
- 3x Forest
- 6x Mountain
You almost always want to prioritise lands that can come in untapped over ones that always enter tapped. This is because auto-tapped lands basically set you back a turn, so it's often better to just run a basic over something like Sheltered Thicket. The exception here goes to the Triomes because they offer three colours and more importantly can be picked up by your fetchlands.
As for the rest of your cards, here's what I recommend cutting:
- Aether Vial
- Coat of Arms
- Crucible of Fire
- Deathbringer Regent
- Kilnmouth Dragon
- Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner
- Nicol Bolas
- Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God
- Ojutai, Soul of Winter
- Ryusei, the Falling Star
- Shared Animosity
- Supreme Verdict
- Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
- Utter End
And add in their places, assuming you're running 40 lands:
Hopefully that helps, and let me know if you have any questions! These are just suggestions after a brief runthrough of course, so feel free to take them or leave them!