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Land — Mountain Forest
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As Stomping Ground enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, Stomping Ground enters the battlefield tapped.
1 month ago
Rebullet I get what you're saying. My thinking on Dragonskull Summit and Rootbound Crag is that Overgrown Tomb, Stomping Ground, or Ziatora's Proving Ground are all a combination of forest, swamp, and/or mountain. So lands like Dragonskull Summit and Rootbound Crag will entered untapped. And Ziatora's Proving Ground gives cycling if drawn later in the game
2 months ago
I playtested your deck and I think it would benefit from some hand discard mechanics and haste so you can swing immediately with your big baddies.
I know this changes your color scheme to more of atemur deck than simic, so it's that not what you want ignore this.
Also, Vivien, Champion of the Wilds's flash mechanic could help with the haste thing.
3 months ago
Hey Eldmoi, thanks for the info. There's a quite a bit I would recommend optimizing. The long story short is that most of the dragons I'd recommend are already on my budget primer that you've seen and my super budget deck list that was part of the primer but is also available here if you're interested here.
First of all, you need to make sure your deck has a decent amount of ramp to cast your awesome dragons within a reasonable amount of time. If you are on a budget then I'd recommend Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and Sakura-Tribe Elder at the very least. Other options for cheap ramp are Farseek, Wild Growth, and Fertile Ground. If you want to further optimize ramp, then adding in Nature's Lore and Three Visits on top of some forest based shock lands (e.g. Stomping Ground or triomes (e.g. Ziatora's Proving Ground would be ideal.
Second, you want to optimize your mana base by minimizing the number of taplands and ensuring you have the colors you need. Any tap lands that tap for only 2 colors (e.g. guild gates) could safely be dropped for basic lands. Tri-lands like you mentioned are decent enough to start off, because they can tap for 3 colors, but even those are suboptimal in the face of options like Dragonskull Summit and Blood Crypt. Furthermore, almost 50% of your deck requires red mana, so I'd ensure your lands reflects that.
Some things off the top of my head for instants and sorceries: I would consider Crucible of Fire to be a win more card. Lozhan, Dragons' Legacy is almost a strictly better Sarkhan's Unsealing. Damn and Farewell are really good board wipes that aren't as mana intensive as some you're running. Garruk's Uprising is a very potent form of card draw. Monster Manual is probably better than Thran Temporal Gateway in most cases.
Finally the dragons. There are so many good dragons to consider, many of which I've mentioned in my deck primer, and many of which are available on most dragon lists online, that I'll focus on highlighting dragons I would recommend removing:
Acid-Spewer Dragon - Overcosted and doesn't do much. Deathtouch isn't as useful on a dragon that should be big enough to kill most thing it hits in the first place.
Backdraft Hellkite - Most instant and sorceries you have are too expensive or are simply aren't as immediately useful (e.g. don't want to board wipe your own dragons). The most useful ones you run are removal, but at that point you can just play dragons that can inherently remove things like Steel Hellkite.
Crosis, the Purger - Hard to save mana to take advantage of its effect. It'll feel bad to take advantage of its effect in casual metas anyways. If you really want to run a dragon like this then Teneb, the Harvester might be more fitting but even then I wouldn't really recommend it, because of the mana investment needed to make it work.
Dragonmaster Outcast - Not a good early game play and easy to kill later on.
Kargan Dragonlord - Costs too much to do too little. We have so many dragon options, even in budget decks, that vanilla dragons simply aren't worth it.
Malfegor - Discarding our hand isn't good to do unless it involves redrawing more cards (e.g. Knollspine Dragon).
Necromaster Dragon - Summoning vanilla 2/2 zombie tokens for 2 mana isn't good value in a dragon deck, and you have to go through combat to get it off. In a world where Ancient Gold Dragon exists, it's hard to justify an effect like this. Dragon Broodmother and Lathliss, Dragon Queen and Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm would be far more effective token generators.
There's always more we could do to optimize any deck, including mine for sure, so I'd be happy to comment more later if you'd like. But I also want to emphasize that as long as you and your playgroup are having fun, you really can't go wrong :)
4 months ago
Ren, Endless Song
Legendary Creature - Satyr Bard
Creatures you control without subtypes get +1/+1 and have vigilance.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may pay . If you do, target non-creature permanent you control with mana value X or less becomes a creature in addition to it's other types with power and toughness equal to its mana value. Untap it, it gains haste. If you target a land, put X +1/+1 counters on it, instead.
Your Stomping Ground and Garruk Wildspeaker both have subtypes should the become creatures, so they do not get +1/+1 and vigilance. However your Great Henge would become a 10/10 with vigilance and haste.
I'd run it.
Make a Commander you'd run.
5 months ago
I've actually been wanting to put together a Mono-Red list myself for a while now..
7 months ago
Hey, if you need mana help add Arcane Signet? I think mana help you add should help to cast The First Sliver since casting First is the main reason to have mana help. I don't think Averna is needed because when you can utilize it's land ability with cascade you control First Sliver.
Faeburrow Elder is good ramp especially when playing five colors to help to cast First Sliver. If you control First Sliver, Elder taps for five mana (one of each color).
You can also help Farseek as well as overall color fixing from lands by adding more lands that are two or more basic land types. Tango lands (Cinder Glade) and Snow dual lands (Rimewood Falls) are budget options. More Shock lands (Stomping Ground) or Triomes (Ketria Triome) are more expensive options. They could replace some basic lands.
7 months ago
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor: i'm going to strongly disagree. there is better removal. i think you're strawmaning the argument and ignoring the downsides. what happens when you get a 2 land hand and that land is one of them? you're not gonna hold back that land drop. i think otawara is even way worse. 4 mana for a soft removal that lets the opponent reset their planeswalker or re-use their etb's? no thanks.
amulet titan is a deck you certainly don't want to let grab another Stomping Ground, against hammer time and affinity, you'd want removal that can get rid of multiple things, not just 1. charlbelcher? where are you seeing that being played? as for burn, eidolon doesn't justify boseiju. Blood Moon? lots of stuff get rid of that. theres just so much better removal for all those cards you mentioned.
8 months ago
Hey there! Not sure how your mana-base is faring, but here are a few suggestions, as manabases in a five color deck can be very difficult.
Run all of the tri lands! I hate tap lands, trust me, but with the first sliver at the head I'm willing to bet you want him out as fast as possible. You're running most of them, but I'd recommend getting your hands on the others: Arcane Sanctum, Jungle Shrine, Nomad Outpost, and Sandsteppe Citadel.
Of course, the Ikora triomes would be awesome, but they can be a bit much per land if you have a smaller budget. For reference, here they are: Savai Triome, Ketria Triome, Indatha Triome, Raugrin Triome, Zagoth Triome.
Not sure how you feel about these, but something else to consider would be the 5 panoramas from wherever it was they were first printed. Having that choice of fetch without spending money on the big fetches can be a really big asset in many games: Naya Panorama, Jund Panorama, Grixis Panorama, Esper Panorama, and Bant Panorama.
I'm sure you're aware of these, but in case you aren't, there are of course the expensive duals and fetch lands. The fetches (like for example, Bloodstained Mire) are incredibly powerful. They give you the power of choice between yes, the two colors, but beyond that virtually any color you wanted if you ran all the shock lands (like Stomping Ground). If you drew that Bloodstained Mire and needed a green, you could fetch Stomping Ground and boom, you have it. Of course, that is quite a lot of money, but if you weren't aware of them, it's a good thing to keep in mind. On a side note, the fetches are even more extremely powerful as they go to your graveyard, allowing you to recur them (with say, Ramunap Excavator) and get tons of landfall triggers per turn.
Some others are ones that add any color- like these are probably by far the best. Here's some that come to my mind. Ancient Ziggurat, City of Brass, Mana Confluence. Cascading Cataracts/Crystal Quarry are also definitely worth it for the big ol Sliver.
You don't seem to have too much ramp in the deck besides the 3 green guys and a bit of Artifact ramp. Not sure how much you need more, but some I'd recommend are Fellwar Stone, Ornithopter of Paradise, Three Visits/Nature's Lore if you add the shock lands (like Stomping Ground, etc., then you can use these to find any color), Noble Hierarch, Ignoble Hierarch, Bloom Tender (adds one of each when big sliver is out!!), Birds of Paradise, definitely Arcane Signet, Sylvan Caryatid, etc. The dorks aren't slivers, but they are really really crucial in adding any color. It is a bit much of green though, which is probably not something you want to do, so maybe pick and choose wisely- especially if you replace the green ones I mentioned before (maybe not all of them). Let me know if you'd like some more of these kinds of ramp suggestions.
Anyways, I've got some stuff to do so I'll leave it at that for now- I'm not gonna read through this so sorry for any grammar errors too. Hope some of this is helpful, and insightful. Feel free to check out some of my decks (main one is Double Trouble EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷), and let me know if you have any questions or want some help. Best of luck with your deck, and have a wonderful evening.
edit: most of the slivers and all look good there's a couple things I'd swap no biggies, small things like maybe consider Kindred Discovery or Toski if you like Bident of Thassa) but that looks all good!