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Snow Land — Swamp Forest
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5 days ago
Hey, well done so far upgrading the precon.
Some Elf upgrades to consider:
- Copperhorn Scout --> Defiant Elf
- Elvish Harbinger --> Lys Alana Scarblade
- Circle of Dreams Druid --> Rhys the Exiled
- Fauna Shaman --> Sylvan Messanger
- Elvish Guidance --> Elderfang Ritualist
Copperhorn Scout pairs well with Immaculate Magistrate or Timberwatch Elf to have a repeatable untap effect to make Lathril huge when you attack with Elves. With Immaculate since the counters stay on the creature then can keep Scout and Lathril huge. Fauna Shaman repeatable tutor effect can be useful with Elves that are not impactful enough in the game to tutor for a more impactful creature. Fauna brings a toolbox effect with Elves since she can get any creature and untap effects work really well with her to chain tutor.
Elvish Harbinger and Circle of Dreams Druid are much more price then the Elves you could cut for them, but they're among the better Elves in the tribe. Circle is another mass mana combo Elf, it's Gaea's Cradle effect and Harbinger is an Elf tutor that's also a mana Elf who can make black mana. Elvish Guidance isn't an Elf, but it's another mass mana effect and after enchanting a Forest pair with Arbor Elf.
Some nonElf upgrades to consider:
- Staff of Domination --> Door of Destinies
- Cultist of the Absolute --> Crown of Skemfar
- Patriarch's Bidding --> Return Upon the Tide
- Assassin's Trophy or Beast Within --> Putrefy
- Victimize --> Lead the Stampede
Staff of Domination is most powerful artifact with Elves since it can make infinite green mana with any of the mass mana Elves (Priest, Archdruid, Circle, Marwyn, etc.) if they can make at least 5 mana. Infinite green is then paid into Staff to draw as much of your deck as you want to find Ezuri wincon or to get at least 10 Elves in your control. Lathril's tap 10 Elves to make each opponent lose 10 life can be a wincon with Staff since Staff can infinite untap Lathril and 10 Elves.
Cultist of the Absolute is busted with Lathril for only 1 mana. Without any other boost to p/t it makes Lathril a 5/6 flying/deathtouch/menace threat. The combination of having menace and deathtouch makes combat a nightmare for opponent. Lathril provides the creature sac fodder that's needed to fuel Absolute. Patriarch's Bidding is mass reanimation of Elves for 5 mana.
Door of Destinies isn't a good anthem effect card since it doesn't pump anything without casting an Elf the same turn you play it meaning need more than 4 mana to get any value at all. For 4 mana you can do much better if an anthem effect is what you want.
Some land upgrades to consider:
- Rogue's Passage --> Myriad Landscape
- Twilight Mire --> Blooming Marsh
- Woodland Chasm --> Skemfar Elderhall
Over a couple of turns Rogue's Passage alone with Lathril can build you an Elf army, that's pretty good for a land. Twilight Mire for 1 green mana can make BB and that's helpful when green mana is much more plentiful than black mana, but black mana is also important.
Woodland Chasm is another Golgari dual land that Verdant or Wood to get. Blooming Marsh will rarely ETB untapped making it much worse land then it appears especially for it's price. Fast lands are better in formats where you can play 4x of them for consistency of having them the first three turns of a game. Fast lands are overpriced dual lands in Commander.
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Soul of the Harvest, Fertilid, Mulldrifter and Shriekmaw are good budget elementals.
Wolfbriar Elemental is a nice mana sink in the late game.
Consider adding backgrounds like Master Chef or Scion of Halaster.
You are running Joint Exploration. Consider similar cards like Explore or Growth Spiral. They can let your deck gain some early velocity.
If you play multiple elementals with evoke then a card like Village Rites becomes useful because you can cast it in response to the evoke trigger and draw 2. Card like Evolutionary Leap could also be used in response to evoke trigger to draw a fresh elemental
Zendikar's Roil can let you go wide with elementals.
Tatyova, Steward of Tides makes your lands into 3/3/ elementals
Kenrith's Transformation is a great removal spell that replaces itself and can be recurred.
Tezzeret's Gambit draws 2 cards and proliferates.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar puts counters on each creature for just 3 mana
Cards I would replace:
- cards with kicker and Vine Gecko (they are generally worse cards than regular budget ramp spells like Rampant Growth or Cultivate)
- 6 forests because you have low mana curve (I would cut the land count to something like 36 lands, but you could also swap them for dual lands with basic land types from Kaldheim - Woodland Chasm, Dominaria United - Haunted Mire, Temple cycle - Temple of Malady or bounce lands - Golgari Rot Farm
- Titania, Protector of Argoth because there is only one card -> Harrow that can proc her ability to make elementals
I would also cut some of the elementals that don't have any useful abilties like Jaddi Lifestrider, Healer of the Glade, Glade Watcher, Floodhound, Offalsnout, Smolder Initiate and Slitherwisp.
Hope you find some of the suggestions helpful.
4 months ago
I might run fewer/creatures, since stickfingers will until you reveal x creatures, not just x cards. The fewer you have the higher chance you hit one that destroys the table if you just overload on ramp and reanimates. Rather than these things Crawl from the Cellar,Ghoul's Feast,Gravepurge I'd focus on just reanimating and is easy to get and will probably serve you better. If you really do want it back in your hand Genesis Skullwinder and Eternal Witness do this while attached to a body.
Rather than sending to your hand these will just bring back Diregraf Rebirth, Victimize, Reanimate, Exhume, Unearth, Whisper, Blood Liturgist, Stitch Together,Dread Return.Geth, Lord of the Vault is expensive but can fill your yard as well as revive others. Finale of Devastation revives or tutors, and is a finisher.
Rampant Growth is slightly inferior to Three Visits and Nature's Lore as long as your dual lands have both typesOvergrown Tomb, Bayou, Woodland Chasm, although I'd definitely run all three if there's room. Culling Ritual would be an amazing ramp/wipe card you can use to nuke all tokens and then cast stickfingers. Sakura-Tribe Elder is just rampant growth that works as a blocker for one turn, and it is another creature in your graveyard. Lotus Cobra ramps too, particularly with your other ramp options.
And you'll likey have enough mana to use Decree of Pain, if not, other wipe options are Damnation,Pernicious Deed,Death Cloud,Deathbringer Regent,In Garruk's Wake,Killing Wave,Necromantic Selection,Plague Wind,Reiver Demon,Toxic Deluge. Torment of Hailfire works as a finisher too Endurance is basically the only way you can protect your graveyard that I can think of. I'd probably run Veil of Summer too.
Since you'll have access to really big creatures these can be nice for draw. Greater Good, Momentous Fall, Return of the Wildspeaker, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Morbid Curiosity, Life's Legacy, Disciple of Bolas, Doom Weaver, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds.
I think every single black deck should run Dauthi Voidwalker, and the more grave hate you have the more you could take advantage of Living End/Living Death if you use these as mass reanimates. they are the cheapest.
You have a fairly high number of tutors, and a ton of ramp, so i'd consider Panglacial Wurm. It's a card you dont need to waste a draw to get and can be cast instant speed. And its fun to surprise people with it at least once.
4 months ago
Hey, good start on a low budget. I think you can optimize what you currently have even more since there's 16 high mana cost cards here.
Some advice to consider, fill the rest of the deck spots with one, two or three CMC cards since the high end part of your deck is done? One drop budget creatures who can sac themselves are excellent support with Meren.
Viscera Seer and Carrion Feeder are sac outlets which could use more of those to get experience counters. There's not much draw here that Meren can take advantage of. Consider more repeatable draw when you sac creature/creature dies?
Morbid Opportunist can trigger on an opponents turn if any creature dies not just your own creature. Body Launderer loots each time a creature you control dies, helps to setup Meren reanimation. Can also get more draw from single effects.
Budget one drop mana dorks can be ramp who can be saced/die later on for experience counters.
Good luck with your deck.
5 months ago
MadMork you only really need to get 1-pip of each land to have your deck functioning, so i’d suggest trying to have a distribution of pretty-equal colours.
I’m against running too many of those taplands, as they’re super slow & suboptimal. Ideally you’d be running a bunch of fetchlands to fix the manabase, but i’m aware they are pretty cost-prohibitive.
5 months ago
wallisface thanks for the feedback here, I have implemented the majority of the changes you suggested. I have a question related to these changes. What is the best way to manage my lands here? Looking at my mana distro I can see I am too heavy on black, but I can also see part of that is because of the double mana lands like Woodland Chasm. My gut reaction is to drop two swamps, then pull in two Rimewood Falls in order to buff up the green/blue mana generation.
9 months ago
Thanks so much for being the first person to comment! LOL made my day :)
So all of my decks are casual decks that also just so happen to be modern, BUT at some point, I do want to enter a tournament just for fun with this deck.
That being said, I currently own one of the three Verdant Catacombs and the one is in my deck right now; eventually, I would like to have the three and that would be the penultimate build for this deck (for now). I want to be able to fetch Woodland Chasm or Overgrown Tomb on an opponent's turn and un-tapping it on my next upkeep to avoid casting a tapped land or a shock land as my land on my own turn.
My playgroup is pretty competitive with each other, so more or less, the deck was originally built to play against my friends but turned into something with a high percentage of winning and I wanted to see how competitive I could make it in a tournament setting.
10 months ago
Hey, I think I understand you correctly when I say you want more utility/non-basic lands you can use in here? Do you have a budget in mind?
First off, I personally don't love Arcane Signet in a mono-Green deck, that shouldn't hurt to remove as a start? Sol Ring is probably good enough to keep. As for some non-basics you could look at, Wirewood Lodge is a good Elf land, Gilt-Leaf Palace is a good land maybe, not too cheap though. Tainted Wood might work, I'd consider Blighted Woodland, Tyrite Sanctum can make your Commander Indestructible, Mortuary Mire or Witch's Cottage can get you back a creature, I like to include bounce lands like Guildless Commons in decks short on lands (they count as 2 drops effectively), Nephalia Academy is probably useful if you face discard decks (bad if not though), Woodland Chasm can be found with Wood Elves (but comes in tapped unfortunately), Mosswort Bridge is a good Green land on a budget, War Room is a good one if you're splurging, Castle Locthwain can draw as well, but it's clunkier than War Room most of the time, Jungle Basin might be fine as a bounce land if you've got lots of basic forests, Castle Garenbrig has potential relevance, Buried Ruin can get back an artifact (if you add Vanquisher's Banner, or Staff of Domination, which combos very well with Elves), Scavenger Grounds can exile graveyards, and Bojuka Bog exiles 1 graveyard when it enters.
If you end up liking basics more than you expect, you could also go low on non-basic lands and use Primal Order, which can cause some decks considerable grief. I'll check in later, hope these give you something to think about at least!