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Mana Leak Discussion
1 day ago
Okay, time to get writing, Deadpoo111, this is gonna take a bit, so please bear with me. I am going to run through your response rather quickly, and I came up with about 4 separate ideas running back and forth in different parts, so if they aren't the same point just tell me and I will respond to each part individually!
Your list currently sits at $11.53 on tcgplayer, before I just used the built-in tcgplayer price/tappedout estimate, but I forgot that includes basic lands and can mess with the result. Point still stands that it is over $10
Your second point was about my decks, I didn't intend to claim I made better or more cheap decks, I most certainly didn't make cheaper ones for EDH, and I didn't try to claim it, looking back that was misleading. I was intending to claim that there are separate similarly cheap decks that are good, so if you claimed 'close enough' to $10 it wouldn't be an adequate response. I know that you have some strange notion it actually is $10, but that is seemingly false, by tcgplayer.
Perhaps elsewhere, at an LGS somewhere where shipping isn't an issue this could be $10 or less, but I don't have those numbers. The numbers I have show that it isn't $10, and even if it is wrong, calling me ridiculous is naive or intentionally misleading, idk which.
The third point was something about how you did something amazing. That is subjective, I can claim it isn't, you can claim it is, really a simple point, we disagree, no worries here man, I didn't want to mess you over by that, just a simple comment.
The fourth is the only one I am legitimately upset by, you clearly went over how I was offended, salty, or lashing back with whatever motive you want to assign to me. Assigning motive is an extremely underhanded and misleading tool. I was never salty, you told people I was with no evidence. I did my research, you told people I didn't with no evidence. I wasn't offended at the time, you told people I was with no evidence. I never called you a liar, you said I did with no evidence. Does that sound like I am being 'ridiculous?'
Those are my logical responses to your strange dismissals of what I wrote. If that doesn't suit you, how about a response in favor of you.
I actually am really happy you are making more. I quite enjoy helping new players and trying to build and give decks out. I do it quite often, giving people 100-200 dollar edh decks tuned and made for them if they are a close enough friend, or $20 decks to new and inspiring players even for formats I don't play. I ask for the metagame details for playgroups across the other side of the world to help build decks for people that ask me to, given colors, budget, level of competition, format, playstyle, you name it. The fact that someone else is making stock versions of what I do brings me great joy.
In fact, I want to help you, I don't think I would spend money online without knowing exactly where it goes to, but I would help build decks for you in your same theme, with any budget, commander, colors, playstyle, competitive level, etc. I would enjoy helping you, if you made sure that you weren't going to make blanket clickbait statements, mislead other people with serious complaints by using straw-men arguments, and were more helping people than bragging about doing so.
So, up to you what this means, whether you will take this as a helping hand in giving more players more decks, or as an insult to what an amazing and incredible deck you've made, but I made in about an hour a deck that costs 9.88 without basics, or 10.18 with basics for Edh that I barely had to think about:
Commander / EDH
9 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
Otherwise, for FSims81, I agree, let's not tear down any deck ideas or work. I wouldn't dream of it. I will show flaws in them and how to fix them if they ask for advice.
2 days ago
Thought that just popped into my head: One of SynergyBuild's and my complaints was the lack of diversity resultant from a single deck.
If you are looking to make another ~$10 deck with a very different play-style, consider Talrand, Sky Summoner . Talrand makes a really good budget/starter commander-- Opt , Mana Leak , and Negate are all dirt cheap and will be useful cards for future builds. Counterspell only costs about $1.00, and is fully worth 1/10th the deck's cost. Beyond that, there are plenty of three-mana Blue counters/draw cards that are cheap and playable at the budget level and a number of high-mana-cost Blue creatures that make solid finishers.
2 days ago
5 days ago
It's not really organized, but you get the idea
Creatures: Peregrine Drake , Restoration Angel , Rishadan Footpad , Venser, Shaper Savant , Charming Prince , Mnemonic Wall , Nephalia Smuggler , Blizzard Strix , Mistmeadow Witch , Felidar Guardian , Bramble Sovereign , Glen Elendra Archmage
Enchantment: Oath of Teferi
Draw Spell: Deep Analysis
Protection: Sleep ,
Land: Endless Sands
2 weeks ago
Hey, I was working on a Field of the Dead deck in Pioneer and found that Kiora, the Crashing Wave fit absolutely perfectly. You could try it in Pioneer if you wanted (here's my start: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/fog-of-the-dead/?cb=1574915555), or you could continue in Modern.
If you continued in Modern, the mana would be difficult and I actually think going three or four color could work given the constraints for Field of the Dead . White for Holy Day / Dawn Charm or black for Darkness / Abrupt Decay / Painful Truths are both good options. You could go up to crazy numbers of lands and play any of Arboreal Grazer , Explore , Courser of Kruphix , and Growth Spiral instead of your current creatures to ramp every turn so you can get the combo up and running by turn 5. Alternatively you could go for control instead of ramp with Thoughtseize , Abrupt Decay , Spell Pierce , Mana Leak , etc.
2 weeks ago
Mana Leak is also a weaker counterspell in EDH (it's pretty decent in 60-card formats). I would only recommend it in very counterspell-heavy decks. If the goal is protecting against removal/boardwipes use Swan Song or Negate . Otherwise, use Counterspell , Arcane Denial , or any of the other good cards that counter anything.
As for Rift Bolt and Lightning Bolt , if they're for removal I would highly recommend something more reliable like Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Reality Shift , Aftershock , or Fissure . Comet Storm or Rolling Thunder work well with Saheeli too. If they're for going upstairs I'd again recommend things like Comet Storm to have a bigger impact and even end the game outright.
Without counterspelling them, the only way in to handle enchantments is Chaos Warp . I insist you run it. There are a few colorless ways to deal, like Scour from Existence , Unstable Obelisk , and Spine of Ish Sah . The latter two are great with recursion.
Personally, I always run two boardwipes minimum and I try to squeeze more in when possible. You already have the best in Cyclonic Rift, but another could save your bacon (you don't have tutors to find it, nor would I necessarily recommend running any). Even decks that go wide, like ours, need reset buttons in emergencies. Blasphemous Act is the gold standard, but Ixidron , Earthquake , Wash Out , and Coastal Breach are good too.
2 weeks ago
maybe for the sideboard you could put in:
3 weeks ago
You need cards like Crucible of Worlds , you may mill your lands and with this you can play them and fix your mana.
Wand of denial is not modern legal, but you can replace it with something very similar Pyxis of Pandemonium and also is a graveyard hate card.
The big problem i see is this deck is quite slow and doesnt have a lot of control early game , which you absolutely need if you dont want to get screwed. Early game is harder to control what they draw with the "lanterns" because you wont have most of them, until later in the game, so you need cheap discard to remove the big threats from their hand, the same with counters, it is less powerful late game because your lanterns and discard do most of the job to not let your opponent get their cards but that wont always happen so you need counters and removals to control as much as possible , they shouldnt draw what they need and if they draw it you discard that, and if that didnt work you may use a counter or destroy that creature, or the ensnaring bridge but the last one only works against attacking creatures (mostly big ones) against combo or decks with small creatures or raw damage is more of a dead card,i would have 3 ensnaring bridge you may need some more removals/discard/counters instead. You need low to zero cost cantrips to get those artifacts faster like Mishra's Bauble Cerulean Wisps (not the best but 1 mana for what it does is good and is budget) .
Orbs of warding i think you use them mostly for hexproof rather than the synergy with ensaring bridge + orbs though it is a good combo to prevent most damage it comes as early as turn 6 you may need to use other things than get that thing down if youre looking for hexproof Witchbane Orb is lower mana cost .
The eradicate and zendikon combo looks pretty cool as wincon but im not sure how often you can pull it off but if you do you remove most of its deck as you said works better with mono coloured but a wincon that only has a big impact in some decks like mono green elves makes the deck less versatile i would move them to sideboard though i liked the combo. Remember you need low cost removal, you have to stop the other player rather than actively kill him.
Your counters are very high cost you use them more to mill and kill your opponent than to protect yourself. What will you do against a combo if they get all pieces by turn 4 like a retraction helix+ altar of the brood(look for this deck on google) combo, maybe they wont use their combo but you must save your mana to counter that, the high cost of the counter is slowing you down and your opponent may have a secondary win condition for example with a Genesis Chamber . You cant counter 2 things at once(not only that, you may need to destroy something or discard and you cant because of the counter) with that high cost, if you had cheaper counters or discard you could have removed the pieces long ago, even in turn 1 if you Thoughtseize or Inquisition of Kozilek the Altar of the Brood and if you dont want that to come back Surgical Extraction which you can cast almost for free and also mills, Sadistic sacrament slows you a lot.
Good counters for early Mana Leak Disallow Dispel Negate Remand (this one also a cantrip) Hinder has a good synergy with your deck. This deck is hard to master because you need knowledge about what kind of deck has your enemy, to know what to remove and when also you can check other decks with the same strategy, it is called "Lantern control". Lands that enter the battefield tapped slow a lot, remove Skyline Cascade,Jwar Isle Refuge,Maze of Ith doesnt give mana it may screw you and you dont really need it and it isnt modern legal
Lower the mana curve (counters,removal)
Must add discard
Must add draw cards, cantrips or things like that,
Spreading Seas destroys fetch lands and is a cantrip you may add them.
Mana Leak occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.35%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%