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Cinder Barrens Discussion
9 months ago
Hey, nice start on a budget.
Consider expanding on instants/sorceries trimming creatures? The power of Kess comes from being able to cast an instant/sorcery from your graveyard on your turn therefore you want to take more advantage of this especially draw and dig. Could start by cutting half the creatures from the creature base and adding mana efficient spells that Kess can cast from your graveyard:
- Dark Ritual
- Frantic Search
- Ignite the Future
- Chaos Warp
- Feed the Swarm
- Liliana's Triumph
A powerful repeatable effect on a budget with Kess because she has flying is Whispering Madness. Cipher Whispering to Kess and then when she does combat damage to an opponent everyone wheels their hands for no mana cost to you. A repeatable wheel fills your graveyard up with spells to then cast with Kess. Can even cast Whispering from your graveyard with Kess and then Cipher it to her or another creature you control. The act of discarding a card to Whispering means that if the card has a madness cost you can pay that cost. This is a way to discard a lot of cards with madness while at the same time able to pay the madness bonus cost.
A wheel makes all players discard their hands and draw cards, but you can prevent your opponents from drawing with Narset, Parter of Veils and Notion Thief. Notion is $0.50 not $2. With one of these cards in your control then your opponents don't draw cards after they discard their hands.
For the manabase you would be better off playing more basic lands then lands that always ETB tapped such as the three Vivids, Transguild Promenade, Cinder Barrens, etc. Exotic Orchard could replace Promenade. My advice for the manabase on a budget is build it around more basic lands and include dual lands that have interaction with basic lands or are good budget dual lands:
- Shivan Reef: less than $1.
- Grixis Panorama
- Sunken Hollow
- Smoldering Marsh
- Sulfur Falls
- Dragonskull Summit
- Graven Cairns
- Choked Estuary
- Foreboding Ruins
I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Wesley as a farm boy: Diligent Farmhand. Not Modern legal, but...
Castle Ardenvale or any of the other Eldraine castles.
Unruly Mob is the mob that had to be dispersed before storming the castle.
Of course, they did have to Storm the Citadel.
Perhaps True Love's Kiss?
1 year ago
Temple of Triumph replacing Stone Quarry
Temple of Malady replacing Foul Orchard
Temple of Silence replacing Forsaken Sanctuary
Temple of Mystery replacing Temple of Mystery
Temple of Epiphany replacing Highland Lake
Temple of Plenty replacing Tranquil Expanse
Temple of Malice replacing Cinder Barrens
Temple of Abandon replacing Timber Gorge
Temple of Deceit replacing Submerged Boneyard
Temple of Enlightenment replacing Meandering River
1 year ago
I like the addition of Glint-Horn Buccaneer from you maybeboard as it acts as a discard outlet as well as giving added value to your madness and other discards.
Any flashback Increasing Ambition, retrace Throes of Chaos or dredge cards Shenanigans all work well with the host of discard outlets in the deck. Madness obviously works best but those others are good as well.
1 year ago
I don't see the use in adding white as an extra color for a creature here.
What I would do is remove Leonin Squire , Arid Mesa , Godless Shrine , Plains , and Sacred Foundry . Substitute the creature with one of these: - Trading Post - Skeleton Shard - Fortuitous Find - Myr Retriever , OR - Scrap Trawler
The Arid Mesa , Godless Shrine , Plains , and Sacred Foundry can be traded out for mountains and swamps, as well as: - Cinder Barrens - Canyon Slough (this has Cycling, so would be good for drawing) - Akoum Refuge - Blackcleave Cliffs - Bloodfell Caves - Dragonskull Summit , AND/OR - Buried Ruin , which would give you additional room to return artifacts
1 year ago
Made some changes according to what I could get my hands on. For the time being, removing everything in my "Maybe" list.
Added in Rekindling Phoenix , Squee, Goblin Nabob , Feldon of the Third Path , Lightning Greaves , Bloodhall Ooze , Reassembling Skeleton , Bloodcrazed Paladin , Mastermind's Acquisition , Liliana, Dreadhorde General , Second Harvest , Casualties of War , Spore Frog , Gluttonous Troll , Cinder Barrens , and another Swamp. My mana base still favors red a bit but with my mountains so low, I think it will work. I should be able to play the deck for the first time next week!
1 year ago
Alright, let's get down to it! Anje Falkenrath is relatively new and I'm not yet sold on her validity as a vampire commander. My primary hang up is the overall weakness of madness as a mechanic. It is still critically underrepresented on cards, and of those that do exist only a handful are actually any good. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that I am skeptical that it can compete with existing vampire archetypes.
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I try and avoid tap lands at all costs if possible. When running a low-to-the-ground deck like this, the loss of tempo from a tap land can be more damaging than the loss of color availability. In addition, I would discourage the use of artifact lands unless you are going for a specific artifact theme. This is simply because artifact lands are easier to destroy than regular lands and aren't worth the risk with literally no benefit in this particular list.
- Ancient Ziggurat
- Blood Crypt
- Bloodstained Mire
- Graven Cairns
- Luxury Suite
- Path of Ancestry
- Unclaimed Territory
- Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
I feel that any of these lands would be strong adds to your list. While some of the cards are a bit on the pricey side, I do feel they would improve the flow and power level of the deck.
- Bloodcrazed Neonate
- Bloodhall Priest
- Bloodsworn Steward
- Erdwal Ripper
- Falkenrath Reaver
- Heir of Falkenrath Flip
- Incorrigible Youths
- Markov Crusader
- Stromkirk Mentor
Many of these creatures are either too costly or too under-powered for this format. It is important to remember that in EDH, efficiency is key. I would discourage playing any creature that falls short of the formula (Power+Toughness)/2=Converted Mana Cost (e.g. A 2/2 for two mana or better) unless it is especially crucial for your deck to function.
In addition impact is crucial. Bloodhall Priest for example is fairly costed, but doesn't do enough to advance your board state for the cost.
- Champion of Dusk
- Cordial Vampire
- Dusk Legion Zealot
- Malakir Bloodwitch
- Stromkirk Occultist
- Twilight Prophet
- Vicious Conquistador
These creatures are all what I would describe as impactful or highly efficient. When I mean impactful, cards like Malakir Bloodwitch make a big splash when they hit and are still relevant after the fact due to their efficient bodies. In terms of efficiency, Vicious Conquistador can put in a lot of work in the early game as a cheap, go-wide card.
I don't have any good tips for adds here, but I would encourage you to look for modal or mass effect type cards for this category.
These all seem like good choices to me and many of them double as potential madness triggers essentially negating their downsides.
Basilisk Collar is a solid equipment, but this is neither a voltron nor combo build that can effectively utilize it. I like Eldrazi Monument for its power; however, you lack the ability to produce enough fodder to sustain it long-term. Finally, Rakdos Cluestone is simply outclassed by other mana rocks, most notably my suggestion Talisman of Indulgence .
Herald's Horn is just a good card in any tribal deck and I would highly recommend it!
My overall impression is that you've got a decent base here, but have made several choices that I see a lot of new EDH players make in their early decks. In general, you could use more card draw and I would encourage you to take a look at EDHREC or other vampire decks on here for inspiration in terms of what kinds of effects truly shine in EDH versus other formats.
1 year ago
I really want to get some Priest of the Forgotten Gods for the deck. I’ve considered Judith, the Scourge Diva and Cruel Celebrant but initially dismissed the life drain effect since I like be more aggressive with cards like Falkenrath Aristocrat . I’ll definitely look into getting a few copies of them both.
I thought about using Fatal Push , but for my playgroup meta Tragic Slip is going to more effective against my groups Dino and indestructible focused decks. Spark Harvest replaced Bone Splinters since my playgroup uses a lot of planeswalkers. Dreadbore could be good so I’ll keep an eye out for those as well. My main goal is to get two more copies of Falkenrath Aristocrat and focus on sacrificing the humans like Doomed Traveler and Hunted Witness . Seraph of the Scales is awesome, but is also out of my budget. I like having Martyr of Dusk just in case my opponent has a way around Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet ’s zombie engine and it’s saved me a few times. Same with Shamble Back but I am looking for a better alternative since I don’t always have a creature ready to exile for it.
Thank you for the recommendations!