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1 week ago
I don't have a definite answer for how many token producers is the minimum, but right now all of your sorceries, all but one of your enchantments, all but two instants, and a good handful or artifacts and creatures create tokens in one form or another. That's almost half your deck, and the other half is mostly lands, so I think you're okay there.
To address your first question slightly differently, how much does this deck need counterspells and ramp? I tend to go on the side of "no such thing as too much interaction," and this deck does have a potential weakness to board wipes. If this deck is performing at the level you want, then you hit the right level. If it feels slow, or vulnerable, or a certain effect is punishing it too much, I would say it's safe to remove several token producers so you can protect and enhance your investment. On that line, if you do decide you can afford to drop a couple of tokenators, Asceticism and Heroic Intervention would also be worth looking at.
Elder Gargaroth is a big stack o' value, and it can throw out four 3/3 tokens each turn cycle by itself, or eight with A&N. Anything else just makes it better. I say it's worth it.
1 month ago
If you are still looking to improve the deck, I've also been working on this deck for a long long time (when the card came out). I've always like the voltron big swing style as it was unique to commander, but my deck is solely for 1v1 and does not work very well in multiplayer. Here is a list of cards that I would recommend that have worked wonders for me.
Tainted Strike - 2nd berserk (if you're ok with infect)
Belt of Giant Strength - after you scavenge, 2 mana equipment, free equip for another 8 power
Not of This World - my secret tech, after you make it big it's free
Veil of Summer - with this style of deck protection is very important
Jarad's Orders - the 2nd best tutor after buried alive, because there will be 2 creatures you always search for and it's on curve. you always look for Elvish Spirit Guide and Phyrexian Dreadnought. Phyrexian Dreadnought goes to graveyard and Elvish Spirit Guide goes to hand, exile, scavenge, swing with 14 power on turn 3-4.
Unmarked Grave - entomb #2
Demonic Embrace - you can entomb this and give you commander evasion and +3/+1.
Rancor - buff and trample, you need to get through
Destiny Spinner - one of the few ways green has to fight counters
Solidarity of Heroes - 2 mana double the 12/13 counters
Wild Growth - it may not be a creature, but it does get our commander out on turn 2
Elvish Spirit Guide - serves 2 purposes, the Jarad's Orders trick and making all your turn 2 plays turn 1 (like Sylvan Library), you can also end the Survival of the Fittest chain with elvish spirit guide to do the same trick
Sylvan Safekeeper - free protection that they must always respect, it's very good
Collective Brutality - I value discard highly in 1v1. It also allows you to ditch your scavenge target from your hand to the graveyard while seeing the coast is clear. But in multiplayer, less useful.
Lightning Greaves - haste and protection, yes plz
Dismember - takes care of many of the early problematic targets
Hatred - 1 card win with commander
Necropotence - sculpt your hand for next turn kill
Cards that I would recommend reconsidering/taking out
Harmonize - a bit too slow imo
Arbor Elf - the amount of targets you actually have isn't enough to make it consistent
2 months ago
3 months ago
Hey, m4rs, I'm back with some spicy tech for your deck, this time regarding the big tokens themselves:
My suggestion, whenever possible, is to run creatures over other spell types for the same effect: they synergize better with your deck, despite being more vulnerable to boardwipes. (It makes you more explosive, which is better the higher you go on power level).
Have you considered Quartzwood Crasher? It is already a trampling beater that gives you even bigger trampling beaters.
Overwhelming Stampede is great when you have a 5+ power creature on the board. Unfortunately it doesn't apply to the tokens created thereafter.
Delina, Wild Mage can copy your legendary creatures as non-legendary, just for Ghired to copy them even further. (Throw in Parallel Lives in the mix and we're salivating already.) Maybe you're lucky enough and roll 15+ three times in a row?
Harmonic Prodigy and Wulfgar of Icewind Dale double your Ghired triggers. The former can be cloned for extra spice and the latter also works with Etali, Primal Storm, Aurelia, the Warleader and Combat Celebrant. (Too bad Isshin, Two Heavens as One is black :-/)
If you're relying a lot on "when-something-enters-the-battlefield" effects, Panharmonicon might be a good friend to you.
In that matter, Hofri Ghostforge gives all your creatures a second life should your opponents dare removing them. (I played against him, and it is ANNOYING to have to kill things twice to get rid of them.) The bright side is that the exiled cards come back to the graveyard after they LEAVE the battlefield for any reason, so you can recur them.
Iroas, God of Victory gives evasion to your creatures while protecting them from blockers.
Marisi, Breaker of the Coil should maybe return to the deck if you're afraid of being attacked when going all-in, since you removed Intangible Virtue. It also has the neat bonus of your opponents having to answer before you declare who you're attacking. (I know it doesn't scream "token" off its textbox, but it is a repeatable Disrupt Decorum effect which clears the board for your next attack).
I believe Selesnya Eulogist might be swapped out for Scavenging Ooze or the recently spoiled Lion Sash. Despite not populating, they exile any card and are cheaper mana-wise. The Sash can also be equipped to a creature to buff a creature and avoid creature wipes.
Since you run the Moxen, Gemstone Caverns fills the same role of exchanging cards for tempo, while being a land. (You can always choose to not go first if you win the dice roll.)
Now, as always, I want to suggest some removals:
I love Mimic Vat in battlecruiser games, but it doesn't pull the same weight on quick games. (It hurts to write it, but my beloved Soul Foundry might also only belong to Christmasland, since, if you don't have the mana to cast AND copy the creature right away, your opponents might see the danger incoming and remove the artifact before you get any value off it.)
Tendershoot Dryad might not belong here, since Ghired cares about quality, not exactly quantity of the tokens.
Esika's Chariot. I understand it already comes with its tokens for crewing, but getting a token copy of TOKEN creatures AFTER combat is too narrow for my taste (and you don't have noncreature tokens). Again, Rionya and Delina are better suited for this job.
Sword of Hearth and Home is good protection stapled to decent blink and ramp effects, but the ramp comes too late for Ghired to care, the blink is unreliable and the protection can be better executed by Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Saryth, the Viper's Fang (trample + deathtouch is nasty), Privileged Position or Asceticism.
What are your experiences with Warstorm Surge? I usually leave it out of my deck if I have access to Terror of the Peaks, since 6 mana is a lot in my games and the Terror is tutorable by cards you already run.
3 months ago
Playtested in a 1v1 vs. a Lord Windgrace landfall deck. Played out 1:1 in 2 rounds. Loosing my commander hurts the playout a lot, because I need those tokens. Also, I need the commander attacking ASAP. Therefore, a few drags were removed in favor of Anger, Cryptolith Rite, Asceticism and Burgeoning. And added in Goblin Bombardment for more flexibility to kill off unwanted drops on the BF.
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