Search your library for a Forest card and put that card onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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Nature's Lore occurrence in decks from the last year
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Nature's Lore Discussion
4 days ago
God-Eternal Oketra > Oketra the True Wood Elves > Sad Robot Nature's Lore > Rampant Growth Migration Path > Explosive Vegetation Scute Swarm > Entreat the Angels Other general cards to consider: Aura Fracture , Cryptic Caves , Dust Bowl (or any strip mine/wasteland/etc), Elvish Reclaimer
1 week ago
Wheel of Fate etc for more dumping?
You don't seem to have a lot of ramp, might want to add some land fetchers like Nature's Lore
1 week ago
As a general rule, setting a price for the deck is much more helpful than setting a price per card. Becuase if a really strong card which would help your deck out immensly is $15 then you can pair it with a 50c card compared to 2x $7.50 cards which are so-so. Just food for thought.
As for suggestions, you need more ramp and draw card in general. Especialy since you don't currently have much draw card effects, I would be favouring land ramp over mana dorks. Between Rampant Growth , Three Visits , Nature's Lore , Farseek , Sakura-Tribe Elder , Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Skyshroud Claim , Explosive Vegetation , Circuitous Route , etc. there are a lot of good, relatively cheap options (that are good cards to have in your collection).
2 weeks ago
RambIe: No matter what format it is though, the average player is going to try and optimise their deck (to varying levels).
Functional reprints of cards exist, you can't hold it against someone for running both Nature's Lore and Three Visits in their deck. And these reprints have existed for a long time, so this isn't some sort of new argument.
And on top of that, while these cards provide value in their non-creature form, there is a very limited number of these effects that poeple are able to pick from. This isn't the same as just gluing a Demonic Tutor to the back of your favourite commander. We as players don't get to choose these effects, unlike formats like Oathbreaker where your choice is two separate cards.
If they start printing MDFC cards which are a broken creature on one side and a mana efficient tutor on the other, then by all means I could understand your concern. But that's not what we've seen thus far.
The whole point of Commander is that it's a social format. Unlike basically any other format, there exists the social contract which should be the number one thing used to regulate a play group's experience.
At the end of the day, cEDH doesn't give a crap about how you feel about a card. If it's legal, the cEDH community will use it to win, as that's the primary driver for cEDH. But everybody is on a common understanding there.
In casual, if you have a deck which is causing problems for the rest of the group because it's too consistent or it's making commander unenjoyable fo the rest of the group, then the social contract exists to help deal with that situation. You may not like having to have hard conversations but that's part of life.
I'm just failing to see the issue here. You talk consistency, but we had that via functional reprints already. Since day dot we have had this. And on top of that, we have seen slews of commanders who, without employing mechanics like companion, partner, etc, have still had stigmas associated with them because of their consistency. Take Najeela, the Blade-Blossom . Or Prossh, Skyraider of Kher . These card both hold reputations, yet still fit within the mold of "traditional commander". And as far as your concerns with companion goes, we just aren't seeing it. For all the hype that was made, peopel aren't just jamming companion cards in their decks left, right and centre. Maybe we see a few Kenrith, the Returned King decks with Zirda, the Dawnwaker but that's it. And they're not exactly at the forefront of cEDH.
3 weeks ago
Ok so the changes i made are-
Out- Birds of Paradise , Manaweft Sliver , Leyline Prowler , Yavimaya Elder , Capricopian , Seedborn Muse , Chromatic Lantern , Darksteel Ingot , Replicating Ring , Gilded Lotus , Opulent Palace , Winged Temple of Orazca
I forgot i wanted Worldly tutor and Parallel Lives in the deck.
Check the new build/stats and gimme yer thoughts.
3 weeks ago
Seriously though, this looks sweet as hell. The infinite mana angle seems nasty, but not overly pushed, which should lead to good gameplay. Freed from the Real tends to be a surprisingly loud threat and my guess is that it's likely going to be a bit too greedy, especially considering you have fairly limited protection. Pemmin's Aura is good enough because the protection is built-in, and the added evasion will help you close some games. I've also found that cards like this tend to suffer quite a bit to the Chaos Orb s in our meta but YMMV.
The first thing that stood out to me was that you have significantly less interaction than you typically play, and I'd bet that it'll feel a bit uncomfortable having to be so selective with your answers. I'd recommend adding Windgrace's Judgment and Assassin's Trophy to improve your flexible removal, and some number of Erebos's Intervention , Battle at the Bridge , Profane Command , and Black Sun's Zenith to up your creature removal and creature count (Hydra tokens) at the same time. Also, these do really well against indestructible threats (cough Blightsteel Colossus + Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger cough) like gods and such.
You could probably also use another counterspell or two, but if you don't want to lean too hard that direction, that's understandable.
The second main thing I noticed is your mana ramp package—I'd look at it fairly critically and consider your goals. For example, I'd keep all creatures that tap for 2 or more mana ( Bloom Tender , Incubation Druid , Selvala, Heart of the Wilds ) as they give you more paths to going infinite. I'd cut the ones that only make 1 mana ( Birds of Paradise , Manaweft Sliver , Leyline Prowler ) as they tend to be a bit of a liability compared to land fetch spells and you aren't inherently taking advantage of the fact that they are creatures.
I'd also focus on the curve of your mana ramp. I think you should prioritize 2 cost spells like the three on-color signets, and the land fetch spells Nature's Lore , Farseek , Rampant Growth , and Sakura-Tribe Elder . Swapping these for your 3-5 cost mana ramp will give you more chances to cast Zaxara on turn 3 and get the ball rolling on both bigger mana and generating hydras. The way I see it, you could have a signet + Zaxara to use on turn 5 or spend that same turn casting a Gilded Lotus which is the same mana output but a turn slower. Basalt Monolith is the exception here as it goes infinite.
The final thing I'd encourage is to play more land. You really need to always hit Zaxara early for your deck to do it's thing, and maximizing your potential to consistently hit 4 mana on curve is going to pay dividends. At 34 I'd say you're 2-3 short of what I'd recommend for a mana-hungry deck like this, and you're actually at 33 right now because Winged Temple of Orazca starts as a Hadana's Climb Flip and likely shouldn't be counted as a land.
Here are the baseline swaps I'd recommend:
Out - Birds of Paradise - Manaweft Sliver - Leyline Prowler - Yavimaya Elder - Freed from the Real - Capricopian - Seedborn Muse - Chromatic Lantern - Darksteel Ingot - Replicating Ring - Gilded Lotus - Opulent Palace
In + 2 Forest + 1 Island + 1 Swamp + Farseek + Nature's Lore + Sakura-Tribe Elder + Golgari Signet + Simic Signet + Dimir Signet + Profane Command / Erebos's Intervention + Windgrace's Judgment / Assassin's Trophy
These aren't super exciting changes but they'll massively help your initial consistency. I'd play the deck a buch before deciding what swaps would be best beyond this.
Stoked to see the deck in action!
3 weeks ago
The biggest thing that sands out to me is the deck's curve. I always get a bit nervous when I see a deck where the CMC curve (i.e. quantity of cards at each CMC) keeps going up until the 4 or 5 mark. Granted, I am a pretty heavily combo player, but as a general rule you want to give yourself more to do the first few turns. This could be more ramp, or could be setting up card draw engines, but having a curve peak at 4 means that that the deck will be slower. And if you're trying to lean into voltron, then that's not great as you get into more competitive spaces (since here was a question about deck improvements).
I also think that you're trying to do too many things here. I'm always a fan of every deck having some sort of out if the main plan isn't working (i.e. some sort of combo that you don't lean into) but I think you're speading yourself too thin here. You have some planeswalkers and some pillow fort and som voltron and some combo. In addition, your combo feels really tacked on and adoesn't follow the theme of the rest of thedeck.
I would pick one central theme and focus on that and then try to pick cards which lean both lean into the theme but also can give you that out. Otherwise you end up with a deck that can mediocrely do 4 things.
I would also look at increasing your ramp package (not by much, but by a few). With the reprinting of Three Visits and with Nature's Lore and Farseek , adding some land ramp will let you leverage your decent landbase.
1 month ago
I’m not sure I agree. Skyshroud Claim brings lands in untapped. I really focused on using ramp with either the least initial cmc investment (like all the 1 cmc dorks), or bringing lands in untapped to reduce that investment. If i have 4 mana open and i play Migration Path my turn is over, not so with skyshroud, same thought process goes with using Rampant Growth , Nature's Lore , or Three Visits instead of Kodama's Reach or Cultivate . They all put one land out but any of the former do it much cheaper, as little as 1 mana after things are said and done, compared to 3 for the latter.
Thanks for the suggestion though, and for checking out the deck.