Rampaging Ferocidon

Creature — Dinosaur

Menace (This creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)

Player's can't gain life.

Whenever another creature enters, this deals 1 damage to that creature's controller

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (45)

Mave on endles whispers edh

11 months ago

I read the thread when I tried to look up the rules for the cards which is kinda important for EDH Endless Whispers. (I plan on including it in Obeka)

In a 1v1 match it mostly tries to get the best creature of an opponent while donating negative effects. But in commander it becomes a game of "hot potato" where you can never be sure who gets the creatures of another player but you can decide what "garbage" you donate. That is the gist of what the deck will do in a multiplayer game.

Depending on what you give away you may want cards that can counter triggered abilities in case ove Leveler, Sky Swallower, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Eater of Days, Hunted Wumpus, Inverter of Truth, Dust Elemental, Avatar of Discord, Indentured Djinn Ebon Drake Plague Reaver Master of the Feast Tempting Wurm, the haunted one like Hunted Troll, Hunted Dragon,Hunted Dragon, Hunted Lammasu or Hunted Phantasm. Personally I would use Obeka, Brute Chronologist to counter the ETB of the creatures you play by ending the turn and then giving them to an opponent. But that only works for when the creature with negative effect enters the battlefield during your turn. But it is a great plan B in case you don't have Endless Whispers to give your opponents creatures from the list above by simply playing an 8/8 trample for {2}{R}{R} then ending the turn before the trigger resolves.

Other options are Jon Irenicus, Shattered One or Blim, Comedic Genius both want your opponents to control your creatures. If you just want the effect of giving your opponents negative ETBs you can also build a deck on The Beamtown Bullies. But including Endless Whispers in this deck can backfire by giving you one of the negative effects if the creature dies. And it also is hard to let e.g. Leveler enter the battlefield to donate it through endless whispers. What helps with that may be to manifest a creature with a negative effect with e.g. Scroll of Fate. You can also manifest creatures with negative effect from your library but that is a bit more random.

To prevent getting creatures with negative effects from your opponents you to gain hexproof. There are plenty of effects giving yourself hexproof in white but I couldn't find a good commander for that. To gain hexproof yourself in a non white deck you most likely need Orbs of Warding which may be the way to go to prevent opponents to return the hot potato to you. Which is what I do in Obeka (sadly I don't have any list online of that deck).

If you like Endless Whispers to take your opponent cards however you might rather want to play Grave Betrayal or Lim-Dul the Necromancer. Overall it can still be used as a politicle tool. Especially if you donate one of the Haunted once you can build a pact with another player that you always trade them with each other to get more and more tokens.

Talking tokens it is also possible to put Endless Whispers in Grismold, the Dreadsower which gets into the direction of Dagger Burn known through Rampaging Ferocidon, Trespasser's Curse, Massacre Wurm, Slaughter Specialist and e.g. Illness in the Ranks/Virulent Plague. Whenever you donate Hunted Troll to an opponent or it enters the battlefield you let the 1/1 faeris directly die causing Grismold to trigger and also cards like Poison-Tip Archer.

It is also possible to play with effects like Plaguecrafter, Abyssal Gorestalker, Gravelighter. The player who gets the creature has to sacrifice one creature less and choses who sacrifice one creature less the next turn. But as long as you profit from death triggers via e.g. enchantments or artifacts you will profit most from your favourite card.

I also like Rakdos the Defiler to use Endless Whisper. After all one can donate some negative effects and if the opponent sacrifices creatures they have to donate them to someone else. Altough that also works better in 1v1.

I hope the explanation helps to find the right deck to play Endless Whispers in Commander.

jamochawoke on Wacky Waving Infallible Life Flailing Masochists

1 year ago

This is a really solid deck!

But how would you deal with things that mess up your lifegain?

I mean stuff like Erebos, God of the Dead, Forsaken Wastes, Everlasting Torment, Havoc Festival, Knight of Dusk's Shadow, Leyline of Punishment, Giant Cindermaw, Rampaging Ferocidon, and Witch Hunt.

I've seen people just scoop and leave when they were running a lifegain-based deck when they run into those cards. You've definitely got removal for sure, but you should either run more or have ways of digging for them just in case since those are total hosers for your strategy.

Also, to note, Atarka's Command, Molten Disaster, Sudden Shock, or Skullcrack could kill you in the middle of doing stuff so you shouldn't get too low if you've got a red player on the board. I've seen this very thing happen to someone running a K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth deck. Just something to keep in mind!

jdogz32 on Dinosaurs

1 year ago

I love dinosaurs but there's alot of hype since they just printed a bunch of new ones. Your deck has to many 1 of and 2 ofs. You are going to need more 3-4 copies of less different dinos for more consistent game play. Since your deck is based around the enrage ability that is what I will focus on. For starters I'm going to suggest taking these cards out.

Zetalpa, Primal Dawn - too expensive and has no relevance other than being a dinosaur

Wakening Sun's Avatar - too expensive and there's much cheaper board wipes than an 8 Mana dinosaur. This guy is extremely good in commander but not very good for 1v1 60 card decks.

Verdant Sun's Avatar - again he's a good card but there's no relevance to the strategy other than he's a dinosaur and he's a 7 Mana drop.

Rampaging Ferocidon - you are running a creature heavy deck so his ability will hurt you way more than it will your opponent. If you are adding him for the lifefain there's another dinosaur that cost the same but doesn't have that same drawback.

Gishath, Sun's Avatar - extremely good card but he's very expensive for what your trying to build. He will go back down in price eventually but for now I'd suggest taking him out.

Gigantosaurus - he's to Mana expensive. In a 3 color deck trying to get 5 green is going to be more of a challenge than he's worth. If you were running mono green he'd be a great add but for right now I'd take him out.

Bellowing Aegisaur - for 6 Mana the game would gave to continue to go on for a few more turns to get any real value out of him.

Cards you should add more of

Marauding Raptor - one of the best cards in an enrage deck for an immediate activation and makes your dinos cheaper

Ranging Raptors - great for early game and consistent Mana ramp throughout the game.

Raging Regisaur - great for enrage triggers and offers you some removal

Ripjaw Raptor offers consistent card draw which cannot be understated.

Forerunner of the Empire he offers consisten board enrage triggers and you get to search for whichever dino you want

Cards I'd add you don't have listed Drover of the Mighty - offers cheap Mana ramp and is a 3/3

Raptor Hatchling - not very good by himself but when you put him with Forerunner of the Empire he gives you 2 separate counts of enrage.

Last thing is with a deck like this your running too few lands. You need at minimum 23-24 lands for running large creatures that you are hard casting. I know this is alot but I hope this helps.

oconnelljd1 on big daddy dino

1 year ago

Cards to consider cutting:

Volcanic Fallout, Skyshroud Claim, Heaven / Earth, Wayward Swordtooth, Sun-Crowned Hunters, Raging Regisaur, Kinjalli's Caller, Druid of the Anima, Drover of the Mighty, Burning Sun's Avatar, Cacophodon, Star of Extinction

Cards to consider adding:

Kodama's Reach, Regisaur Alpha, Chain Lightning, Blasphemous Act, Carnage Tyrant, Deathgorge Scavenger, Etali, Primal Storm, Annoyed Altisaur, Apex Altisaur, Giant Cindermaw, Harnessed Snubhorn, Sheltered Thicket, Scattered Groves, Sacred Peaks, Kinjalli's Sunwing, Kogla and Yidaro, Quartzwood Crasher, Rampaging Ferocidon, Runic Armasaur, Topiary Stomper, Tyrranax Rex, Wakening Sun's Avatar, Elemental Bond, Taurean Mauler, Unbreakable Formation, Vanquisher's Banner, Coat of Arms, Door of Destinies, Herald's Horn, Path of Ancestry, Pillar of Origins, Pyre of Heroes, Secluded Courtyard, Stoneforge Masterwork, Unclaimed Territory, Vanquisher's Banner
the add section kinda got out of hand, but they are all worth considering

king-saproling on Solphim, Mayhem Dominatrix

1 year ago

You might like these: Burning Earth, Ankh of Mishra, Eidolon of the Great Revel, Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar, Rampaging Ferocidon, Spellshock, Descent into Avernus, Repercussion, Arcbond, Earthquake, Rolling Earthquake, Fault Line, Flame Rift, Jaya's Immolating Inferno, Acidic Soil, Pyrohemia

Andromedus on Waste not, want not, greed not

1 year ago

Oops! You're right, I was indeed thinking of Black Vise. I play more legacy than modern tbh and get those two mixed up.

In any case, one more thing I wanted to mention. I see lifegain as a problem for this deck. Some sideboard you may want to consider: Erebos, God of the Dead, Everlasting Torment, Knight of Dusk's Shadow, Rampaging Ferocidon, Roiling Vortex, or Tibalt, Rakish Instigator are all possible options.

lhetrick13 on We’re Back! A Dinosaur’s EDH Story

1 year ago

SpeedOfLightning - Good thoughts on the Forerunner of the Empire and Rampaging Ferocidon. I avoid the Marauding Raptor + Polyraptor combo because technically it creates an infinite loop that you can not stop and technically ends the game but the presence of Marauding Raptor would complicate that!

For protection, you might consider Steely Resolve or Privileged Position over cards like Swiftfoot Boots. I am assuming you are likely wanting to protect Gishath and she already has Haste that is kinda redundant. Whispersilk Cloak has more potential is you are set on an equipment. Deflecting Swat would be a great addition but that is a solid investment. Trying to pick up one myself but there are other more pressing needs than that at the moment.

SpeedOfLightning on We’re Back! A Dinosaur’s EDH Story

1 year ago

lhetrick13 Thanks for checking out the deck!! And oh yeah, it certainly can. I plan to add a little extra protection, but focus on ramping as well in case Gishath gets taken out. If at first you don’t succeed, hit them with your giant dino-queen again!

Forerunner of the Empire is definitely a great recommendation! I’m in a place of trying to find the right cards to cut to make room for cards like him. Rampaging Ferocidon is a great recommendation as well, but I chose to cut it as it started to to ding me whenever dinosaurs hit the field from Gishath. Plus, I’ve found that Marauding Raptor and Polyraptor end up being an inadvertent draw. Add Rampaging Ferocidon and I’d lose.

All of those other dinosaur cards have served their purpose, but some I’ve kept more for sentiment than strategy. Bellowing Aegisaur and Territorial Hammerskull are two of my favorite dinosaurs. Territorial Hammerskull is still a great card as it can tap down a big creature and clear the way for Gishath. But I may cut a card soon to add in Deflecting Swat. Great for protection, and includes a dinosaur to boot!