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Rogue's Passage Discussion
20 hours ago
Sweet build so far!!
I'm honestly not a huge fan of Rachet Bomb. Maybe go with Austere Command over it. That's or Nevinyrral's Disk. I say this mostly because when you need a sweeper, you are usually behind, and need the board cleared fast and indiscriminately. Ratchet Bomb seems too conditional to me.
Also for lands Rogue's Passage for your Voltron sub theme, Path of Ancestry for fixing. Same idea with Temple Garden, Windswept Heath, Canopy Vista, Sunpetal Grove,Temple of Plenty and Scattered Groves
4 days ago
5 days ago
Some thoughts on some of your card choices, in no particular order.
Sylvan Reclamation for all intents and purposes in a deck like this is strictly better than Relic Crush. Trading out one generic mana for one White mana (which 99 times out of 100 you WILL have) gets you basic landcycling AND exile instead of destroy. The switch is a no-brainer, imo.
Thought Vessel isn't doing a ton for this deck. How often will you be at or above your hand limit for more than a turn or two? Card draw in GW isn't that impressive, even with Rishkar's Expertise and company. I think you'd be better off with Talisman of Unity over Thought Vessel, and I'd dump the Spellbook for a Sol Ring so you can get some more ramp going.
For a deck that wants to get ahead early, I believe you're running far too many ETB tapped lands. Blossoming Sands, Grasslands, Krosan Verge, Mosswort Bridge, Myriad Landscape, and Stirring Wildwood will all set you back a turn on mana production. I'd say Temple of Plenty too, but at least you're getting the scry on that. I'm Opting not to run that, but that's your call! Get some more rocks in there like Selesnya Signet, and be on the lookout for the new Unclaimed Territory in Ixalan, which is pretty much budget Cavern of Souls. Some more relevant utility lands like Rogue's Passage over Reliquary Tower would be worthwhile, too.
If you can, I'd sooner run Brimaz, King of Oreskos over Jedit Ojanen of Efrava. The forestwalk is nice, but 6 mana is steep. Brimaz is only 3 CMC and provides an excellent source defense with Vigilance.
Running Lost Leonin signals to me that you want to use Infect combined with the Arahbo's eminence for a quick kill. Double Strike enablers like Duelist's Heritage, Silverblade Paladin, and Ajani, Caller of the Pride (did somebody ask for flavor?) are huge boons for this, and in general allow you to get the most of Arahbo's pumps. Not to mention them having 3 CMC and similar casting costs as Lost Leonin lead to a superb curve out of your plays. Grafted Exoskeleton also turns any of your cats into a bigger Lost Leonin, for what it's worth!
The last comment that I'll make, and this stems from "mistakes" I was making when first build this deck, is too much focus on cheap cats as soon as quickly being too big a focus. Smashing your opponent for 6 with a 2-drop sounds appealing, but that's only going to go so far in multiplayer. If you're doing 1v1 commander, that's largely fine, but you'll want to diversify your line-up if you want to hold your own in multiplayer. Admittedly, I'm still trying to squeeze these in my own deck, but it wouldn't be remiss of you to include cards like Reveillark and Karmic Guide in here for some recursion. (Also, those two go infinite with Leonin Relic-Warder, Greater Good, and a mana rock!)
6 days ago
Hey slayingmatt1234 thanks for the feedback, all suggestions are appreciated!
After looking through your deck, it does seem like we've taken quite the different direction to Karametra. When I first brewed this deck, I wanted to take advantage of the flash/recursion creatures that trigger his landfall ability into the most powerful X cost spells I could find. This led me towards a lot of mana doublers, high ramp spells, and even ramp creatures. The end result led me into 2 recurring scenarios in play; snowball out of control with 13+ lands by turn 5-6 consistently pulling Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (My personal favourite card), or getting consistently locked down by the 3 other players who do not want to see Vorinclex every game.
Now for your suggestions, I used to run Stonecloaker for the same reason you mentioned, but I never found using him more than once a turn to be helpful, and any of the enchantress creatures at same or less cost seemed to net me card advantage more often if not always.
Knight of the Reliquary seemed to play too slow for me, I put a lot of creature tutoring so my main landfall triggers have to be multiple triggers in a turn. I found the same with Emeria Shepherd, thought a GREAT card, I just never looked to pick it over any 7+ drop that I normally tutor for. I also leaned towards creature protection over recursion, with cards like Eerie Interlude, Heroic Intervention, and Teferi's Protection, I always found the instant answer to boardwipes to lean in my favor and end up setting everyone else behind.
I will look to add more enchantments if I can find some that tackle the main decks in my playgroup. In my playgroup specifically, I found some interesting answers that I included in the deck. Ground Seal against The Scarab God deck, Blind Obedience against Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder 's Sneak Attack + Maelstrom Wanderer deck, and Stony Silence + Aura of Silence against Sharuum the Hegemon artifact control deck + Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith voltron equipment. The end result now, was a consistent easy 3v1 win.
If you had the pleasure of speaking to any of my friends in my playgroup, they'd tell you that in play, this deck is a TERROR. Ulvenwald Hydra is a champ for cheating Rogue's Passage into play into an easy 20+ damage, an early Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger through Natural Order always locks my opponents to pay from behind, and Worldspine Wurm becomes so easy to play with Fauna Shaman + Garruk, Caller of Beasts / Selvala's Stampede. Any of the instant X spells with a mana doubler guarantees a win ( White Sun's Zenith, Entreat the Angels, Hydra Broodmaster ). A well timed Rishkar's Expertise into Overwhelming Stampede or Genesis Wave closes out easy.
6 days ago
Ok now i have some more time so ill try to make some suggestions for you. First i think that all the life gain is pointless. The deck is aggro so you should be lowering your opponents life total instead of raising yours. Elixir of immortality also does the opposite of what you want in this deck. You also have some pretty bad removal in this deck and there is much better budget options. Better card draw would also help. In an aggro deck you are going to run out of cards fast. Last i think there are some creatures in this deck that shouldn't be. but thats ok cause i think you are also running too many creatures so its an easy fix haha. Also i can tell that you wanted to go with an allies theme but alot of your allies have more than 2 power. You only have 12 allies and 4 of them have more than 2 power
Staff of the Flame Magus
Staff of the Sun Magus
Elixir of Immortality
Kambal, Consul of Allocation
Mentor of the Meek
Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
Swords to Plowshares
Return to Dust
Reforge the Soul
Behind the Scenes
Assemble the Legion
Key to the City
lastly your land base seems alittle weird so ill suggest some stuff for that to.
1x Command Tower
1x Nomad Outpost
1x Evolving Wilds
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Rogue's Passage
1x Temple of Triumph
1x Temple of Silence
1x Temple of Malice
1x Temple of the False God
1x High Market
1x Hanweir Battlements
this would be a good budget land base for this deck. If you have any questions on cards then just ask. And obviously dont take all my suggestions it is your deck. Have fun!
1 week ago
Liliana Vess could also be helpful, since she tutors two cards, and can be a distraction target to save you some damage.
If you add enough trample and unblockable stuff, Exquisite Blood pairs nicely as well
1 week ago
Rogue's Passage to make your assassins unblockable
Rogue's Passage para tornar seus assassinos desbloqueveis
I think that's portuguese and translated correct