Gilded Lotus

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Vintage Legal

Gilded Lotus


: Add three mana of any one colour.

DemonDragonJ on Letter of Acceptance or Unstable …

2 days ago

I am now replacing Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus in the majority of my EDH decks, because of how expensive those decks are, and my Meren of Clan Nel Toth deck is next for being updated. I shall definitely be putting Decanter of Endless Water in the deck to replace one of those artifacts, but I am not certain about the other.

I am now choosing between Letter of Acceptance and Unstable Obelisk, since each of those artifacts has a secondary ability, beyond producing mana, and I would like to have the feedback of the other users on this forum; what does everyone else say about this? Which of those two cards should I put in my Meren deck?

DemonDragonJ on 100 Shades of Gray

2 days ago

I have replaced Gilded Lotus and Thran Dynamo with Commander's Sphere and Talisman of Hierarchy, which reduced the average converted mana cost of this deck from 4.05 to 3.98, which is very good. I was reluctant to make that change, since I am very fond of both of those artifacts because of how powerful they are, but I realize that lowering the mana curve of this deck is more important than being able to generate great amounts of mana.

I could have put Orzhov Signet in this deck, but I chose the talisman, instead, because this deck has more than sufficient life gain to offset the damage from the talisman, and neither the talisman nor the sphere require mana to be paid into their abilities, as does the signet.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Put Talisman of …

2 days ago

Caerwyn, I have Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus in every one of my EDH decks, apart from my Atraxa deck (which instead contains Everflowing Chalice and Astral Cornucopia), and you actually have inspired me to re-evaluate my decision to include those cards in those decks, since, as awesome as they are, they are very expensive and I agree that it would be better to reduce the mana curve of my decks.

Caerwyn on Should I Put Talisman of …

3 days ago

Talisman of Hierarchy is a vastly better card than either Thran Dynamo or Gilded Lotus. Ramp should be as early and efficient as possible - you can afford to spend your two drop spot preparing for future terms - but your four and five drops should be something that actually advances your gameplan.

Also, the life loss from Talisman is so small as to be insignificant - it should not even be a factor in your decision to run it.

I would cut both those cards and add Talisman and Orzhov Signet.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Put Talisman of …

3 days ago

I very much wish to put Talisman of Hierarchy in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk EDH deck, because I feel that that deck has a sufficient focus on gaining life to balance out the damage from that artifact, but I need to decide what card to remove to make room for it.

My most likely choice is Thran Dynamo, because, as awesome as that card is, it is expensive, and nearly every other mana-generating artifact in that deck has a secondary function; Gilded Lotus is more expensive than is the dynamo, but it generates colored mana.

What does everyone else say about this? Should I put Talisman of Hierarchy into my Liesa deck, and if I do, what card should I remove to make room for it?

DreadKhan on unthinkable apocalypse

1 week ago

I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. Ashes to Ashes and Reckless Spite also exist fwiw, and if you aren't certain you'll have creatures out, Tergrid's Shadow can do a bit of work, as can Plaguecrafter or Demon's Disciple, cards Sedris can recur for 2B even. Another value card is Dredge the Mire, which can cheat in the 3 worst creatures in people's graveyards, note certain creatures will kill you if you control them, so check before playing! Necromantic Selection not only clears the field, it also gives you back the best thing, this is extra juicy if you use some sort of Indestructible creature(s) that won't die. If you consistently have a fairly big creature, or one with Deathtouch and Lifelink, Chandra's Ignition is one sided by definition, one of many cards that shines brightly with Basilisk Collar (which is also very good with Jaya Ballard, Task Mage or even good old Banshee, Jaya's 6 damage wipe really is amazing if you've got Collar on her, though it'll kill her too). If you expect to have multiple opponents, Goad is a very strong effect, Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant is potentially pretty solid, lots of card draw. There is also Kardur, Doomscourge that will force everyone's hand. Spectacular Showdown is a great card if you've actually got a board of your own to finish people off, keep in mind that on your next turn, you not only won't have been attacked by any pre-existing creature, everyone else will have swung for the fences with Double Strike, and they will likely have nothing left to defend with, making your Double Strikers very effective. Another Goad source that is great with a creature heavy board is Agitator Ant, which is hilarious a lot of the time. If you're using Goad effects, War Tax can let an opponent have a way around them, if there is a tax to attack Goad fails, and War Cadence is absolutely devastating with Goad, even a tax of 1 to block can make blocking impossible for weenie decks, and you can use either on anyone's turn.

As you've got access to Blue, there are a few non-Rakdos tricks you can use, the most hilarious I know of is Mass Diminish, note that it lasts until your next turn and have a good laugh. There is also Sudden Spoiling, which is powerful but lasts for that turn, or Polymorphist's Jest, which is similarly a 1 turn solution. I use Mass Diminish more aggressively, to make a player hyper-vulnerable to attackers (and make them unable to counter attack), getting two casts is just savage. Visions of Duplicity can create some chaos with it's two casts, Cultural Exchange is obscene if someone else has better creatures. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. If you're going to run Oriq Loremage, you might slip in a huge creature to Unearth, something like Dragon Tyrant can be huge and not break the bank, Double Strike and Firebreathing are really good together, and you won't have to pay the upkeep with Unearth, he's dead before that matters.

I was looking at your land count and average Mana Value and I think you probably are running too few lands at this point, it's very tempting to cut them, but 30 is probably too few for a MV that is over 2.5. You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth  Flip) to ensure you can consistently cast stuff. There is a smattering of ways you can run less lands/ramp, but these all come with downsides, but in Grixis you can run 4 solid Bounce Lands, Dimir Aqueduct and Guildless Commons should be in here as well if you want a lower land count, these let you hit another land drop when you draw them. You might also run stuff like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone to help you hit higher MVs sooner, ramping by only 1 mana feels bad compared to hitting a land drop most of the time, there is also Gilded Lotus, but hitting 5 mana can be rough. Coalition Relic can charge for 1 turn, Skyclave Relic is super versatile/rugged, and Everflowing Chalice can be huge if you want, 6-10 mana is absurd but sometimes comes up. Cantrips like Ponder and Preordain are also good at digging for a land, but I know in Talrand it stings pretty bad when you Preordain and don't find a land and I needed one. As for some cards to remove, I'll take a look, but if I'm trying to build a deck that can handle attention, I look first at cards that will hurt only 1 player, unless that card will almost certainly end that player, either right away or in a few turns.

A few to consider removing (I may be missing why you have them in, so user discretion is advised or something): Archive Trap, Outpost Siege, Palace Siege, Ponder, Preordain, Haunting Echoes, Cruel Ultimatum (this seems insanely hard to cast, and hits only 1 player, unless you can copy it I'd run Captive Audience if I want to hose one player hard), Cranial Extraction, Cormela, Glamour Thief, Kess, Dissident Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Lobber Crew, Loyal Subordinate, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Obeka, Brute Chronologist, Phenax, God of Deception, Runo Stromkirk  Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment  Flip (for another land, maybe a better rock, there is Thought Vessel, but fixing is sweet in Grixis).

Hope some of this is helpful!

DemonDragonJ on Is Scepter of Eternal Glory …

3 weeks ago

Caerwyn, Mortlocke, thank for for that feedback, so I shall keep Gilded Lotus in my two-colored EDH decks.

DemonDragonJ on Is Scepter of Eternal Glory …

3 weeks ago

The new Sceptre of Eternal Glory is clearly intended for mono-colored decks, and it also obviously would be unreliable in decks with three or more colors, but I am wondering if it would work in a two-colored deck.

I currently have two dual-colored EDH decks, and I am wondering if the scepter would be a good replacement for Gilded Lotus in those decks, to help lower their mana curves, especially since I have thirteen or fourteen lands of each basic land type in those decks.

What does everyone else say about this? Should I put Sceptre of Eternal Glory in my two-colored EDH decks?

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