Haven of the Spirit Dragon
: Add to your mana pool.
: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast a Dragon creature spell.
, , Sacrifice Haven of the Spirit Dragon: Return target Dragon creature card or Ugin planeswalker card from your graveyard to your hand.
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|Commander 2017 (C17)||Rare|
|Dragons of Tarkir (DTK)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Haven of the Spirit Dragon occurrence in decks from the last year
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Haven of the Spirit Dragon Discussion
3 weeks ago
Hey, good start.
Sol Ring, Command Tower and Arcane Signet are three staples in Commander that are within the budget here. Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Utvara Hellkite and Lathliss, Dragon Queen are Dragon upgrades. Dragon Tempest has powerful effects with Dragons. Elemental Bond is good repeatable draw with Dragons.
Ketria Triome and Raugrin Triome are the other two Triomes and Ketria is good in combination with Indatha Triome with Skyshroud Claim which can give you all five colors from two Triomes. Nature's Lore is another land ramp spell that can search for a Forest Triome or Forest Shock land. Crop Rotation is a land tutor for any land and puts the land onto the battlefield. Haven of the Spirit Dragon is another Rainbow land for Dragons.
Cards to consider cutting:
2 months ago
Uh... Im not sure you know what your commander does based on your creature pool. On a scale of 1-10, i would rate this a 1.5, but i'll help you with that. You might as well be running Golos, Tireless Pilgrim. You have a small number of Dragons in the deck, and I noticed a bunch of useless non-dragon creatures in the deck.
32 lands is wayyyy to few, and you have an awful mana base, even on a budget, having only 1 tri-land and a random af arrangement of shock and gain lands.
You have little ramp, if any, which will slow you down greatly in a format such as commander Another concern is your lack of mana rocks. Why only one signet?
Your removal is pathetic, to be honest, with only one murder. Removal is IMPORTANT in commander, being used at both utility and a rich bargaining tool in the political side of the format.
But enough with flaming the deck, here is what I would put it.
First off, let's talk about your commander. It supports a heavy dragon tribal theme, and you want nearly all of your creatures creatures that either add to this theme or ramp you to get him out earlier. If you are to be running a non dragon creature, make sure it is a utility creature such as Reclamation Sage that can either ramp you or get rid of problems on the board.
Here is what I would cut if i was building him:
Ajani's Pridemate - No lifegain synergy and bad creature in EDH
Brineborn Cutthroat - A 2/2 with flash wont cut it in Ur
Corpse Knight - No sacrifice theme
Dreadmalkin - cmon, really?
Empyrean Eagle - Other cards do this a lot more efficiently
Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch - No madness or counter theme
Faerie Vandal - just no
Garenbrig Carver - bad in general
Gravedigger - not a dragon
Grumgully, the Generous - not efficent
Venerable Knight - no synergy in deck
Manalith - You can keep it in, but it isn't very good
Compelling Argument - 0 MILL THEME!!!
Here is what I would add:
Dryad of the Ilysian Grove - Can ramp you AND fix your mana
Dragonspeaker Shaman - cuts down mana cost drastically
Dragonlord Kolaghan - Haste enabler and good beater
Dragonlord Dromoka - game winning lockdown effect
Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund - haste enabler
Kokusho, the Evening Star - good beater with amazing ability
Birds of Paradise - great mana dork
ALL the signets (Emphasis on ALL)
All tri-lands from Tarkir and Alara
Try to get all 10 fetch and shock lands if at all possible
This is just a few thing I think the deck could need, obviously it needs ore board wipes and wincons, however this is a good place to start. I want to be clear, I dont hate the deck, but I Think it needs improvements to become and 8. For your first commander deck, it's just fine. Thanks for reading. Cheers
4 months ago
Everything seems complete.
Icon of Sin
Whenever you would lose life, you instead lose twice that much life.
Whenever you would discard any cards, you instead discard twice that many cards.
Whenever you would sacrifice a permanent, you instead sacrifice twice that many permanents.
When you have both no life and no cards in hand, instead of losing the game your life total becomes 20. Transform Icon of Sin.
Titan of Hell
Legendary Creature - Elder Demon
Trample, Annihilator 3, Protection from Instants
When Titan of Hell enters the battlefield, each opponent sacrifices all nonland permanents they control. Put that many +1/+1 counters in Titan of Hell.
If you don't know, Ugin was dead on Tarkir and Sarkhan brought him back to life by driving a Hedron from Zendikar into his heart.
Make a Legendary Land representing where Ugin laid, and have it transform into an Ugin Planeswalker.
Bonus points for keeping it in theme with Tarkir and it's mechanics.
Consider this a reinvention of both and merge them into a card that transforms :)
5 months ago
There are some other "targets" for discard, but I don't think all of these are the best for you. I'll list each of them instead of loads of paragraphs.
Punishing Fire - Could be a replacement for Spit Flame but honestly that's up to you. Punishing Fire is technically more versatile since it hits any target and depending on the matchup it can be easier to retrieve. However, Spit Flame has an easier time removing creatures. This one more to just let you know exists.
Flamewake Phoenix - Again, a card that I'm mentioning just to let you know exists. Since most of your dragons have 4 or more power, you could easily get this card back from your graveyard but you would also deviate a bit from the draconic theme.
Ore-Scale Guardian - This one isn't a target himself, but he makes it more profitable for you to discard lands, specially if you end up being mana flooded.
Runehorn Hellkite - Can be used to refill your hand late game(?) and as he's no diffenrent from other dragons, there's no downside letting him rest in your grave until you active it's effect.
Fiery Temper - Basically adds 3 damage for one mana to all of your discard spells.
These are the monored option. I also have options that would actually require you to splash for black. These are, of course, not mandatory for you to run, but it's always good to get to know more cards.
Bladewing the Risen -A giant dragon that reanimates another one when it comes into play and also has the ability to pump all your dragons. Obviously he's not a target for discard himself. However, he can make other dragons more interesting to discard.
Boneyard Scourge - Pretty simple. Dump him into the graveyard and when one of your dragons die, you get him back for a really cheap cost.
Bone Dragon - A recurrable dragon that can be left in the grave until the late game when it can come back multiple times, assuming you have enough cards in the grave.
In case you consider any of these black cards or you just don't feel confortable not bein able to cast the Thralls, there are a few budget lands that can help you with the mana. Also, the Haven of the Spirit Dragon could help you cast the black dragons but not activate their abilities.
About the cuts for the Thralls, you are still above 60 cards. There are some other cuts you can also make.
Dragonspeaker Shaman - They're quite expensive and you already have a pretty decent amount of "ramp" and cost discounts. Even more, they're really easy to kill.
Slumbering Dragon - He seems quite tempting to play as he can grow a lot. However, that's the problem, he CAN grow but nothing guarantees he will. Also, only one in the deck won't help at all.
Sarkhan's Triumph - Since you now have more card draw, you could maybe cut one of these.
7 months ago
Gleeock, I've been looking into that, actually. I have identified 10 cards I can slip in.
I am considering removing the following, for their respective reasons:
- Gauntlet of Power : It costs to much mana and assists my opponents in ramp. I am not looking to build a group hug deck.
- Extraplanar Lens : While there is strong power here, I also feel I have enough solid ramp and cost reduction that I do not need it. I play games and win just fine in tests without having it on the field. There are even times where I find it slows me down because I get greedy and play it too early, removing lands from play. For example, if I have three lands out but exile my only red source, I kind of screw myself over.
- Rimescale Dragon : With Lens out of the deck, I have reason to run Snow-Covered Mountain s. That is to say, I was running SCMs because it puts a soft-lock on my opponent's ability to ramp off my card. If they have normal Mountains, they gain no benefit. They would need specifically a Snow-Covered Mountain. Well, if I am not using snow lands, I don't benefit from Rimescale.
- Glacial Crevasses : Again, no snow lands = no need to run this.
Now only two of these are actually mainboarded; Gauntlet and Lens. I play many games without using these and things work out just fine. So it becomes a matter of what to replace them with.
I'd like to stick to the Dragons if able, only because I'd get the most value out of Lathliss. However, other control-like Enchantments work as well.
The list of Dragons I am looking at currently are the following:
- Hoard-Smelter Dragon : Gives me another control outlet on a Dragon. Similar to Steel Hellkite in that I can remove threats or problematic cards. I can break combo pieces apart or destroy stones to slow opponents down. It also works great to remove Voltron equipment. Without being a tap ability, I can sink an entire turn's worth of mana into it and blow up 2 or 3 artifacts late game.
- Knollspine Dragon : Giant hand replenishment card. There are plenty of times where I swing for 14+ damage. That's 14 cards. The value there is just immense. Possibly even better than Dragon Mage because I don't give my opponent's new cards, too.
- Moonveil Dragon : Functions as another anthem. Lathliss, Dragon Queen and Purphoros, God of the Forge both serve in this capacity. Having a 3rd Dragon might be useful, too.
- Mordant Dragon : A weaker version of Balefire Dragon . I may honestly replace Demanding Dragon . I don't want to give my opponent a choice in the matter. That's what makes Glorybringer and Flameblast Dragon so good - I choose where I want the damage to go.
- Thunder Dragon : Seems like a decent sweeper, but only if the boardstate is light enough. I'm not sure how this would fare in the changing meta. 3 damage probably isn't worth it late game, and early game it'd be too hard to reliably get out. Just posting it here so you know I thought of it.
- Zodiac Dragon : I was considering this only because I find it interesting that it gives me essentially an unkillable Dragon. No matter what the boardstate becomes, I would always have Zodiac and Lathliss I can fall back on. I just find that a bit interesting, but I don't think I should try and force Golgari into mono-red. Though, to be fair, I also have Haven of the Spirit Dragon which returns a Dragon as well as Daretti, Scrap Savant who can return Steel Hellkite and Moltensteel Dragon . So there is precedent for it in this deck.
Additionally, I have identified:
- Price of Glory : Completely shuts down reaction-based decks.
- Citadel of Pain : Forces mana-drain.
- Ashling's Prerogative : Another source of haste. If I choose even, all of my 6-cmc Dragons (Which are most of them) gain haste. Likewise, my tokens (0 cmc) also gain haste. It also gives my Commander haste.
I think I'd rather go with the enchantments I feel that slowing opponents down while I burn them out with passive triggers is a great foundation to rely on as I churn out an army of Dragons. Sort of keeps the pressure off of me to keep going as fast as possible. This way, if I get a hand with 2 or 3 6-cmc Dragons but also a 3-cmc control enchantment, I can keep it knowing I have a soft lock on the game for a few turns.
After I finalize this deck, I plan on building a Prossh, Skyraider of Kher deck, running Korvold, Fae-Cursed King as a "secret Commander". That will be far more of a "regular" EDH deck with interactions, wraths, tutors, land spell cards, etc. :)
8 months ago
All have some juicy flavor for the "every tribe" theme, you're running.
8 months ago
For starters, 33 lands is low. I like to start with 36 land, 8 ramp/rocks and go from there increasing or lowering as needed. To speed it up after increasing it would be to eliminate as many tap lands/rocks as possible. Ditch the vivids for basics, City of Brass , Haven of the Spirit Dragon , and Mana Confluence are multicolor lands that enter untapped that can replace some tap lands... sure they pain, and one's limited to dragons but no pain no gain. Other than that just try to balance it for your colors... for instance if you are RG heavy, then you'd want to keep the Naya, Jund, and Temur tri lands above the others.
As for the dragons they seem all over the place. I found an interesting deck page for scion combos you could check out if you want to go that route. Hasn't been update in 3yrs but it's a start.
Ur dragon is probably best to focus on combat synergies (when dragon attacks, extra combats, etc, and tokens (i.e. Utvara HellKite). You could try a control route I suppose but idk, honestly I've been trying to piece it together for awhile but still seems weird and all over with what's in the list. I think there are a few dragons you could do without: Chromium, Niv, and Okagachi. I feel they require more dedication than you can afford for a tribal deck. I'm on the fence about a bunch: DL Ojutai could be replaced with some good card draw, Dromoka jr and Vorosh I'm not sure counters are necessary with tribal bluffs and all, and Karthus because he can be copied and well... its bad times.
Sorry it took so long, tried looking at it at work but didn't give me enough time to really focus on it. Hopefully it helps some at least.
8 months ago
(Disclaimer: My first post, so let me know if I need to make edits.)
Could anyone provide some feedback on my two decks? I’m getting back into this after 15 years. Yay. For now this is just for casual play. I don’t mind spending a few dollars, just not many dollars. Thanks for stopping by and for any and all help!