|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Common|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Common|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Common|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Common|
|Beatdown Box Set (BTD)||Common|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Common|
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Smoldering Crater enters the battlefield tapped.
: Gain .
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
Smoldering Crater Discussion
2 weeks ago
- Desert of the Fervent
- Desert of the True
- Drifting Meadow
- Forgotten Cave
- Secluded Steppe
- Smoldering Crater
- Gruul Guildgate
- Rugged Highlands
- Timber Gorge
- Gruul Turf
- Blossoming Sands
- Selesnya Guildgate
- Selesnya Sanctuary
- Tranquil Expanse
I'm not saying add them all but add a few of them. I know speed is probably of very much importance to the build so no need to add all of these. But I think adding like 4 or 5 duels and 4 or more cycling lands
1 month ago
Cool idea for a deck! I think you could try to build around your commander even more.
In your mana base, a very easy inclusion would be all the cycling lands. Desert of the Fervent , Desert of the Indomitable, Tranquil Thicket , Slippery Karst and Smoldering Crater are great for Gruul decks to have anyways because of the lack of card draw and they work super well with your commander.
All the Dredge stuff would be great in the deck. You already have Brownscale, but you could use Shenanigans (there's always a target), Moldervine Cloak and Greater Mossdog all give you consistent action in the late game that will also power up your damage.
There are tons of self-mill cards that are worth running for card advantage. Lead the Stampede , Beast Hunt , Benefaction of Rhonas , Commune with the Gods , Kruphix's Insight , Scout the Borders all work at varying degrees of efficiency. If you ran a few more enchantments (which wouldn't be hard to do), this could actually be a great way to stock your graveyard and give you tons of action throughout the game.
With that in mind, almost every Flashback card is probably worth running. Same goes with Retrace and Jump-Start. These will give you so many options over the course of the game and be an extension to your hand.
Book Burning Targeting yourself is a pretty good way to stock the graveyard quickly, unless an opponent wants to take 6, which is also nice.
Chainflinger is decent in PDH and would fit nicely in a deck like yours.
Firebolt is very good in general and gets even better if you're milling it into your graveyard.
Fortitude can make a big creature a bigger problem and feed your graveyard lands.
Mother Bear seems like a good fit, like most cards that generate value in the graveyard.
Elven Cache is a great card to have in green PDH. It doesn't cost you a draw like Reclaim does, which justifies the mana cost, in my opinion.
Is Renewal to janky? Cantripping and fixing your mana might not be worth 3 mana, but it does move your gameplan forward somewhat.
A lot of the cards in your maybeboard are cards I think you should actually play. Excavating Anurid is quite strong. A 5/5 vigilance that cantrips at almost no downside for you is really good. Igneous Elemental is comparable to Flametongue Kavu in many scenarios. All your burn and removal that requires sacrificing creatures or lands is also good for your game plan. Quicksand has no downside in your mana base.
In general, I think having more creature-based ramp might be better than sorcery or artifact ones, unless they sac lands. Rampant Growth, Land Grant, Search for Tomorrow, Renegade Map and Armillary Sphere seem like they would be stronger as mana dorks. Zhur-Taa Druid and Silhana Starfletcher are both cards that do a lot of work in PDH, plus all the typical 1-mana ramp creatures in Green.
Otherwise, I think Diligent Farmhand and Muscle Burst is cute, but not very effective overall.
Chain Lightning and Lightning Bolt are oddly enough not impactful enough to play in PDH, in my opinion. I would vastly prefer Staggershock over either one for the better damage output or card advantage potential. These could be easy subsitutes for some of your maybeboard spells.
A lot of your creatures are aggressive, but not enough to really be pertinent in a game with 30-40 life (depending on how you play). Borderland Marauder, Burning-Tree Emissary, Moldgraf Scavenger, Zectar Shrine Expedition and to a certain extent even Scythe Tiger could be better as more resilient, synergistic or more powerful threats that scale better with all the ramping you're doing. Something like Sprout Swarm is a classic game-winning card that is good across the entirety of the game and works well with sac effects you're running.
Last thing: I think you should run more lands. I get that you're trying to be low to the ground and aggressive, but running a low land count hurts you in a lot of ways. It makes less opening hands keepable, it restricts the breadth of finishers you can use, it lowers the efficiency of your commander and cards like Winding Way and can even result in you running out of basics to fetch in the mid-to-late game. I think 38-40 lands would be a more appropriate number.
Again, great idea for a deck and I'm looking forward to hearing more about how you do with it. Is it more for 1-on-1 play or multiplayer?
4 months ago
I would try dropping the 2x Bloodfell Caves in favor of another each of Scoured Barrens and Wind-Scarred Crag . With 50% of your deck being white, you always want or something else. Also, consider losing a Swamp and a mountain in favor of either 2x Secluded Steppe 1x Polluted Mire and 1x Smoldering Crater , because I also think you need some draw.
I feel like a full playset of Impact Tremors should be in this deck, maybe by going down to 3-of on some of your other enchantments. Either that or Hissing Iguanar ... or replace Bogardan Dragonheart and use them both! Which is what I would do. But I love Impact Tremors too much so....
Apostle's Blessing should be in your sideboard, btw.
I know it's not an enchantment, but also consider squeezing in some Altar's Reap s somewhere, because draw.
6 months ago
9 months ago
I did get to try it out, but not as much as I'd like. Busy, busy, busy... The few games I have had have been hit or miss. While people don't expect the punishment neheb can deal out, once they know, you (and him) become targets. I've been able to crush the table a few times, make a draw here and there, and lost a few. I've also changed quite a few things from other neheb player's suggestions.
Stuffy Doll to hate a specific player, Combustible Gearhulk big guy with draw or damage, Fire Servant more ouch, Thermo-Alchemist Not sure what to think yet, seems decent, Insult quick doubling damage and some prevention prevention, Magebane Armor makes neheb a bigger tank and avoids your own hate-everything spells, Doubling Cube redonk. I had 100+ mana with it out, Caged Sun eh, chopping block. Kinda helpful but also expensive. Flamekin Village and Hanweir Battlements haste in a pinch, since I can't afford the crazy haste land from kamigawa, Smoldering Crater and some other cyclers for helpful draws later on in the game.
I ended up not using godo or the other card, since I came to the same conclusions you did with them. I also dropped aggravated assault after I hit a table with infinite neheb turns and felt yucky afterwards, haha. All in all, it's been very fun, and I'm still eager for lots more testing when the time of year where everyone isn't busy rolls around again. I also made your firesong and sunspeaker deck but have had zero plays with real people yet, so there's something to look forward to as well. Thanks for responding and I hope to see some update love for these decks in the future with new sets. /wall of text
1 year ago
I'd drop some of the following lands just for more basics: Dormant Volcano, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Smoldering Crater. I'll understand if you keep the Urza lands, but I'm not a huge huge fan. You could consider also adding Arch of Orazca, and Maze of Ith.
Just as a start.
1 year ago
Academy Ruins Desert of the Fervent Desert of the Mindful Forgotten Cave Lonely Sandbar Remote Isle Shivan Reef Smoldering Crater Wandering Fumarole Crush of Tentacles Windfall Dig Through Time Psychic Spiral Chandra, Flamecaller Labratory Maniac
Smoldering Crater occurrence in decks from the last year
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