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Hull Breach Discussion
1 month ago
I have not updated my Xenagos since exactly a year ago, so some of these suggestions do not take into account cards that have been released since then such as Jeska(i?)s will and battle mammoth which should find their way into this deck. Now onto my specific suggestions....
Berserk - Yes, block Malignus with your 1/1, let's see how that turns out. Also to be used for politics as you can target an opponent's creature (such as their commander) who is attacking another opponent. This would be to replace Temur Battle rage IMO
Deflecting Swat - I'll say it once, I'll say it again. In Xenagos, your biggest issue is removal. You spend 5+ mana per beater in the hopes that they don't save removal. Most of your draw like hunters insight, return of the wildspeaker, momentous fall (although to a lesser extent) is based on the fact that you need a creature to target and if they remove your creature, you are shit out of luck. By adding swat, you can bluff while tapped out, protecting your creature allowing it to most likely survive to your next turn in order to cast one of the above mentioned draw spells. Moreover, this counters counterspells and redirects targeted removal, targeted draw, targeted extra turns, etc.... so much utility in 1 card. This is perhaps the second/third most powerful card in a Xenagos deck IMO
Heroic Intervention - Protection
Greater Good - THE MOST POWERFUL CARD IN ANY XENAGOS DECK. IF YOU DO NOT ADD THIS, THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO DISCUSS. THE SHEER VALUE OF THIS ALONE IS ASTRONOMICAL. Imagine casting a 6/6 beater, Xenagos doubles it to 12, they attempt to remove it, since it was going to die anyways, you sacrifice it to the "greater good" in order to draw 12 and discard 3. This doesn't include the fact that you can berserk your own creature prior to sacrificing it as well
Rancor - Nice to have, not necessary. Makes your 1/1 dorks 6 power with Xenagos, makes your beaters better. Hell, enchant it on an opponent's creature for politics
Sylvan Library - Nice to have, not necessary, but in Xenagos, it pays to have draw that isn't creature reliant.
Green Sun's Zenith - Tutor to the battlefield, yes please! While limited to green, it still is worth it. Getting what you need, when you need it.
Harmonize - Draw not based on creatures is nice to have
Life's Legacy - Similar to momentous fall, although easier to cast on the same turn as a beater. Do note that it suffers from the same issue as momentous fall, sacrificing as an additional cost to cast means be wary of the blue player. I like it, but some don't
Nissa's Pilgrimage - Ramp, more Turn 3 ramp enables a more consistent Turn 4 Xenagos. While we would love a Turn 3 Xenagos, the choice is between consistency or early on advantage, I choose consistency, but to each their own.
Skyshroud Claim - Gets 2 forests (note some cards are both forests and mountains) and brings them in untapped, so it helps with tempo, something Xenagos decks greatly lack. Would add this over nissa's pilgramage, although I like both if you can fit them
Ancient Tomb - Ramp
Bonders' Enclave - Draw
Turntimber, Serpentine Wood - Land when you need it, a potential creature when you don't. I like the flexibility for 3 life
Yavimaya Hollow - Most useful but most expensive, protecting your creature from removal is what this deck needs.
Elder Gargaroth - Will almost always be draw, but I love the utility
Inferno Titan - Removal
I couldn't suggest more than what's allowed by tappedout, but let me know what you think of each suggestion. If you want ideas for cuts, lmk
2 months ago
I have replaced Wreak Havoc with Hull Breach , which reduced the average converted mana cost of this deck from 4.05 to 4.02, which is great, and, as nice as it is to be able to destroy annoying lands, it is more important to be able to destroy two permanents for less mana, and I am certain that an average game shall have a greater number of annoying enchantments than of annoying lands.
2 months ago
I have replaced Wreak Havoc with Hull Breach , which reduced the average converted mana cost of this deck from 4.23 to 4.19, which is great, and, as nice as it is to be able to destroy annoying lands, it is more important to be able to destroy two permanents for less mana, and I am certain that an average game shall have a greater number of annoying enchantments than of annoying lands.
on Land Twins
3 months ago
Alright, let's do this.
Good day to you, FacetiousFanboy. Now, I have a mere one lands-matter deck, whereupon 'tis the extent of my knowledge upon the strategy, but 'tis something I have meticulously tinkered for quite the meiny of years. Therefrom, I may offer my enlightenment.
Upon the very intrinsic parts, we have the categories of a commander deck: removal, wraths, card draw, ramp, lands, recursion, and engines. Being a legendary creature in the modern era of Magic, Mina and Denn grant a splendid engine from the command zone. Allow me to touch upon the basics within the decklist.
In order aforesaid, removal:
I mayn't have ever seen Relic Crush, but I do not like it. Five mana to kill two things is far too inefficient, thus I would recommend you take this out of the deck. Force of Vigor is better on most accounts.
Storm the Citadel requires you to have a board state, and requires a sorcery-speed deployment. Removal is best utilized in surprise, and being a sorcery negates such a factor. I do not like this card.
I have noted a supreme lack of wraths. I have also noticed some inefficient X-spells for which you intend to use twelve or so mana. Try removing Banefire, Clan Defiance, Spitfire Lagac, Tunneling Geopede, and Living Twister. The pinging effects matter little until the opponents are sitting at seven life. Living Twister is one I have tried and disliked. Banefire and Clan Defiance hit the opponents' face, but do near to nothing in terms of furthering your board state. These are great when you are ahead, but you currently have no options for when you are behind.
Upon card draw.
If you so desire X-spells to utilize, I would add Commune with Lava. It may be cast upon the endstep before your turn, and thus offers many more option without requiring you to tap out.
Escape to the Wilds offers a new hand and an additional land drop, whilst being a mere $0.25.
Similar yet potentially better, Tireless Tracker. Clues are fantastic, and are a splendid devotion of mana for use at any time. By this argument, I would kill Seer's Sundial. I have attempted the Sundial, but it requires a mana dump immediately as averse to any time.
Ramp, of course.
As to what should be removed, Rootweaver Druid ramps you for one and an opponent for two. It could ramp you for two and your opponents for four. You always come out behind in this exchange, and thus I would see this fit for exclusion. Far Wanderings is great, but best if you have a full graveyard. This deck cannot achieve Threshold too easily, thence this effect may be improved.
Returning from the grave, recursion it shall be.
This is an optional field, but it is nice to have an option or two. I see but Seeds of Renewal. Seven mana for two things returned? I nill. Bala Ged Recovery Flip serves as a land early and a win condition late. Eternal Witness is just always fantastic.
Start your engines.
What in heck is this Sporemound Nonsense? A five-mana 3/3 that spawns 1/1s. Quite lacking indeed. I do not see any justification for having this in the deck.
Primeval Bounty is always lovely, but not requisite. I believe it to be more powerful than current options in your deck.
Given the number of tokens you create Purphoros will drain the opponents' life apace. In the same avenue, Evolutionary Leap can offer defense if someone attempts to kill a creature, or it can find a better use for your tokens.
Comet Storm is a far more efficient version of the X-spells you had opted to include, for it can remove problematic threats or multiple problematic players.
Unto finality, Genesis Wave can plop out most of your deck upon the table, and it is difficult to lose from there.
Thus is the end of my babbling. Pardon the overlong comment, but I do hope it was of some aid.
I do have my own list, as forementioned, built around the lovely Hazezon Tamar. If you would so deign to peer upon its glory, that would be splendid.
Fare thee well.
3 months ago
At Nava's request i'm posting suggested changes, additions, cuts, and my thoughts on them. She requested that I not stick to only budget, but keep the max single card value under $30 (I kept it under $20 for the most part and largely even lower than that). As such, here are my thoughts and recommendations.
Courser of Kruphix- Ramp, pulls cards off the top of your deck so you are more likely to draw useful cards and just directly drop your lands onto the battlefield
Living Lightning- a useful elemental that allows you to recast your instants/sorceries
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar- A very powerful card that also allows you to bounce your lands so you can replay them for more effects
Nyxbloom Ancient- Triple mana on an elemental.
Overgrowth Elemental- A useful elemental that pumps your creatures and gains you life.
Ramunap Excavator- Replay your sacrificed and destroyed lands. Fantastic in a lands deck. Omnath feeds on lands, and the more you drop the more cards you can draw and counters you can give out.
Roil Elemental- A fantastic landfall ability that allows you to grab key pieces from your opponents and use them against each other
Seedborn Muse take full advantage of your lands and abilities without worrying about being tapped out
Titania, Protector of Argoth- land recursion, elemental generation.
World Shaper- land recursion
Birds of Paradise- One of the best dorks in the game
Sylvan Caryatid- Fantastic dork
Brighthearth Banneret- You are a lands deck. You have more than enough mana and this simply doesn't do enough for you.
Chandra's Embercat- This will be a recurring comment from me. You are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Embodiment of Insight- Too expensive for the effect. Also, personally I don't like turning lands into creatures as it makes them incredibly vulnerable without giving enough benefit.
Embodiment of Spring- Too expensive and not nearly good enough.
Generator Servant- The haste isn't important enough for your creatures as you very rarely have anything massive enough or has a useful enough tap effect that is being cast from your hand to require it. Furthermore, you are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Grove Rumbler- This card is terrible. Four for a 3/3 trample that has an effect that will pump it slightly for one turn. This is awful. It feels like this card was only put in due to it being an elemental.
Lavakin Brawler- Rarely do you ever have enough elementals out for this to be worthwhile. Not that it's terrible, but there are so many better cards that can be put in its place.
Parcelbeast- Doesn't get enough value to justify the slot
Smokebraider- You are a lands deck with plenty of ways to ramp. This is a very limited card that costs too much and doesn't do enough for you. You are a lands deck. Increase the number of ways you can pull lands out of your deck to further your decks goals and increase the chances of drawing a non-land card that will help you more.
Tireless Tracker- This has nothing to do with your deck and you're better off finding other draw engines
Surrak Dragonclaw- No synergy with the deck and not nearly good enough to justify the high mana cost.
Field of the Dead
Bring your land count to 38 or so
Coral Atoll- This is terrible. I know you're going for the bounce effect, but this is far worse for several reasons. Firstly, it only gives you blue mana as opposed to multicolored. Secondly, it requires specifically an island to be returned as opposed to any land that you can then take advantage of. And thirdly, it requires the land to be untapped which means that not only does it come in tapped, but it requires an untapped island which means you can't even use that land and then return it for value. This is awful. I don't love the bounce lands either, but I understand what you're going for and their value. This has neither.
Lumbering Falls, Raging Ravine, Wandering Fumarole- These man lands are in here entirely because they can become elementals, but really aren't worth running. They are come in tapped, cannot be fetched, and cost 4 mana to turn into a creature, largely negating any benefit. They're really bad and I highly recommend cutting them for more basics.
Unclaimed Territory- Not really worth the value. It's colorless more often than not and another basic land will give you more value than that more often.
Mana Vault- Nava already owns a copy of this in her Nekusar deck, so it can be added here without issue.
Strionic Resonator- Copy all of your ETB triggers, as well as any other triggered abilities. Fantastic
Chaos Warp- Removal on your own pieces or an opponents. Bypasses indestructible and often is allowed through without being counterspelled due to the fact that it's usually replacing a piece that people agree is a fair target rather than outright destroying or removing without replacing. A fantastic card overall
Constant Mists- Great protection when you need it, plus it can be bought back if needed. Lands can be recovered through multiple means.
Disallow- A must have for counterspells. It covers all possible basis and is fantastic.
Heroic Intervention- Hexproof and indestructible at instant speed for 2. Amazing.
Krosan Grip- Split second artifact/enchantment destruction. Among the best removal for them there is.
Force of Vigor- Free artifact/enchantment removal with multiple targets.
Swan Song- 1 drop counterspell that hits everything but creatures. A great counterspell to have on hand.
Counterspell- There are better cards to replace this with that are still very cheap/budget and are overall better
Growth Spiral- A decent card but we can do better given the range of cards available in commander
Inspiring Call- See Growth Spiral
Return to Nature- There are so many better versions of this for an equal if not lesser cost. Or, for one more there are better cards which I will be recommending.
Struggle / Survive- Too limited, not enough value, not powerful enough.
Tale's End- This is just a bad version of disallow that very rarely gets any value.
Withstand Death- This is a bad version of other similar cards.
Wrap in Vigor- Very rarely do mass destruction effects happen, and when they do the usually say "cannot be regenerated". This seems really good but i've never really seen it get any value and will typically be a dead card most of the time.
Genesis Wave- Drop all the permanents (lands included) that you can afford.
Life from the Loam- pull lands from your graveyard and keep your engine going without running out. Omnath feeds on lands, and the more you drop the more cards you can draw and counters you can give out.
Nature's Lore, Three Visits- Pull forests (basic and non-basic that are forests) from your deck. Very helpful at any time.
Scapeshift- Grab all the lands you want, plus trigger your landfall and other such triggers
Splendid Reclamation- Pull all the lands from your graveyard. Nuff said.
Tempt with Discovery- If one person takes it then it's a better Explosive Vegetation. If more then it's an amazing card, but even if no one else does you get to pick your land and in a lands deck you will get more value.
Windfall- Refills your hand, interferes with opponent's plans, dumps lands in graveyard for later use.
Ground Assault- very limited and not worth running. There are better cards with similar if not stronger effects available to you
Hull Breach- There are better cards with similar if not stronger effects available to you
Quasiduplicate- no real apparent benefit to this over other cards that can more directly further your end goal.
Sylvan Awakening- I don't recommend turning your lands into creatures, especially enmass. It's just asking for all your lands to be mass removed. Very dangerous and will rarely get the payoff you need. Limited and will be a dead card in hand except in very specific scenarios.
Burgeoning- land Acceleration
Trade Routes- Bounce lands for more triggers and value, and in a pinch you can pitch them for more cards. Mana swamped becomes a thing of the past.
Exploration- Land acceleration
Domri, Anarch of Bolas- It seems like the main reason this is being run is for the +1 ability, which is really not worth running a card like this for. Not enough value.
Nissa, Steward of Elements- Without a large number of counters on her she gets minimal value, and if you do pay enough mana to make her viable there are already better cards you can run for those costs.
Eternal Witness- Unless you find your creatures or important cards dead often, or have a real way to take advantage of the cards in your graveyard, this is unnecessary and doesn't do enough for the deck.
Fertilid- A decent card but i've never found it gets enough value for the cost. it's a minimum of 5 mana for 1 basic land. You need to do this at least 3 or 4 times to really get enough value to be worth running over a land fetch.
Leafkin Druid- This is okay as a dork and an elemental, but I've found with tribal decks that you are better off running other creature and card types that better fuel your deck as a whole and really allow the tribe to shine, rather than forcing the tribe everywhere.
Tectonic Giant- Not good enough.
Animar, Soul of Elements- Unnecessary.
Zendikar Resurgent- Largely unnecessary due to the high number of lands in the deck, but can be kept if you feel it worthwhile
Frontier Bivouac- decent but comes in tapped and cannot be fetched. In a lands deck you will rarely be hurting for colors and the fact that this comes in tapped slows you down.
Simic Growth Chamber, Izzet Boilerworks, Gruul Turf- While I see what you are going for with these, they overall do slow you down and you have enough lands (once you bump up to 38 or so) that you shouldn't have any issue with them. I'd swamp these for basics as you have far more ways to grab those.
5 months ago
Sakashima of a Thousand Faces: oh baby, finally a replacement/complement to Mirror Gallery: cheaper, doesn't group hug, and actually does something outside of janky combos. Making multiple Krark's Thumbs in my Obligatory Zndrsplt & Okaun Coins Deck is looking a bit less magical christmas land, esp. as Sakashima can copy Zndrsplt, Eye of Wisdom for great profit.
"Reyav, Master Smith": yeah he's an uncommon but this isn't an interesting direction to take in
Mana Drain: very nice reprint
5 months ago
Cards under $2 TCG Low according to tappedout....
Greater Good - Only card I think over $2, but the BEST CARD IN XENAGOS EVER. ADD THIS 100%, tcg player that shit.
6 months ago
+1 the deck looks pretty good. Low to the ground, got some interaction and instant speed protection. I would try to add a few more pieces of draw to maintain gas.
Beast Within - Removal
Berserk - Fun with malignus, infect creature, removal of opponents creatures, ramp with selvala, etc...
Deflecting Swat - Redirect targetted removal/draw/extra turns, counter counterspells all for free
Momentous Fall - Draw in response to removal
Return of the Wildspeaker - See above
The Great Henge - Draw, ramp, lifegain
Hull Breach - Removal