Curse of the Swine
Exile X target creatures. For each creature exiled this way, its controller creates a 2/2 green boar creature token.
|Have (5)||uhore , orzhov_is_relatively_okay819 , Tarzanovic , CompleteWaste , vashaclarens|
|Want (2)||swatdog , GrandeKhan|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Curse of the Swine Discussion
2 weeks ago
Stuff I'd consider in no particular order.
Steelbane Hydra - this one in particular has what you're looking for in enchantment hate, but I'll have a section specifically for that too.
Hydroid Krasis - a little above your price range, but a fantastic hydra.
Lifeblood Hydra - just under 10 bucks, definitely a solid upgrade.
I'd also consider looking up all the different duals that show up in sultai and picking up some of the cheaper ones? I google "word for the color identity of the deck I'm playing and dual lands" and theres a few sites there generally with prices. Also going up like, 3/4 more lands since 33 seems slim and you don't have a lot of mana rocks/dorks to shore that up.
enchantment removal I've used/like/I think would be good here.
As for stuff I'd cut.
Edge of Autumn - theres better ramp cards and I suggested a few above
Grow from the Ashes - see above
Font of Fertility - see above
Frontier Siege - this seems kinda medium if all were doing with it is adding 2 extra mana, I like that it's modal but you're never going to pick that mode since we don't have a lot of flyers in hydras.
Icy Blast - I see where you're coming from with this, and I think it could definitely put in work, but I also feel like theres probably either hard removal that you could play for the same amount of mana that would make this useful, or something similar.
Personally I'd also cut the counter spells for more stuff that draws/removes but I understand why they're here.
I hope this helps, sorry if it's long winded, and good luck with the list!!
1 month ago
I had full mana and Alchemist's Refuge up when an opponent turning his entire superfreinds board into dragons with Sarkhan the Masterless. Wasn’t even swinging at me, but I took the shot anyway. Years later, I can still ruin his day with only four words: Curse of the Swine.
1 month ago
The philosophy of blue cards like Pongify and Ravenform is that they do not destroy, they merely transform permanently, and destroying and replacing with a token is the mechanically best suited way to do so. Like Turn to Frog, but permanently. They've found flavorfully better ways to do it by auras like Ichthyomorphosis, enchanting the target to change its shape, but that enchantment can be broken, the transformation isn't permanent. When you lay down a Curse of the Swine, you lose the soldiers and gain the pigs, there's no way to get the soldiers back from the pigs. Ever since Polymorph this has been a blue effect, and only recently it is moving into red, with Transmogrify and Lukka, Coppercoat Outcast.
2 months ago
Looking for more cards like Kenrith's Transformation for my wonky transmog deck
so far I have Beast Within, Dance of the Skywise,Gift of Tusks,Mordenkainen's Polymorph,Ovinize,Polymorphist's Jest,Pongify,Rampage of the Clans,Rapid Hybridization,Snakeform,Startling Development,Turn to Frog,Frogify,Ichthyomorphosis,Lignify,Curse of the Swine,Transmogrifying Wand,Oko, Thief of Crowns and Terastodon in my main deck and
Here's a Link to my deck in case you need it Transforming Oneself . PS. if you think of clever or funny name for this let know as well
2 months ago
Guardian of the Swamps
Creature- Leech Horror
Add to your mana pool
Creature you control have fear
2 months ago
I really like the idea of more colors getting access to interact with the stack and I really think White is a good color to add some additional design space. Obviously it cannot get on par with blue so it needs some additional conditions or costs associated to get this effect.
I think this is a very good example to fit that space. Nice work.
Just a side note, for the sake of reducing word count could it be written as "... costs less for each spell cast and each ability activated by your opponents this turn." ?
I get the point in being specific about only caring about your opponents' actions but I think it would be consciously misinterpretation of the above line to think it isn't specifically for your opponents' actions.
Why is white a good fit? (wall of text) Show
First of all it seems like counter magic is a vital tool to interact with combo strategies especially when considering the Commander format, and it is the reason we've seen so many "free"-to-cast counter spells especially for Commander and why they drive sales so much. However that is only accessible to Blue, so the rest of the color pie is borderline useless in attempting to interact with most combos. I mean a Silence could work to interact with some combos, but that is such a narrowly applicable card in the rest of the game that it remains a tech card with a heavy drawback. And it might just eat one of the aforementioned "free"-to-cast counter spells and there's not much redundancy available either.
There's a reason why most competitive cEDH decks are including Blue. Coincidentally a lot include Black and Green as well as the three most powerful colors in Magic - at least for single-ton formats.
White used to have some affinity for artifacts but that seems to have been handed over to blue/red. Right now White is mostly concerned about Equipments within the artifact realm and the synergies are not that widespread nor that powerful.
White used to be the best or on par to deal with artifacts and enchantments with Disenchant and Purify and similar effects but green has mostly taken over in acquiring design space for this mechanic - Bane of Progress Broken Bond You Find a Cursed Idol. The best improvement on the mechanic that white has is Austere Command due to flexibility and Heliod's Intervention to snipe multiple without harming yourself. And that's one of the bigger differences. White leans more on Enchantments and Artifacts than Green does, so Green doesn't have much drawback in including Bane of Progress. Whereas White leans on Artifacts for mana ramp and Equipments and they lean on Enchantments for strong synergies.
White once had their card advantage through ensuring their board survives, either through protection, prevention, regeneration, then shroud to a lesser degree, then indestructible - but only on creatures. However Black has gained exile mechanics, red has "burn to a crisp" mechanics and blue Cyclonic Rift or Curse of the Swine. So indestructible as a safety measure is getting worse and worse. Not to mention they get outdone by Green - again. Only exception is the ever increasing price on Teferi's Protection but that has its drawbacks too - namely you remove yourself from the game and can't interact further - unless you somehow can cast spells without mana from permanents.
Cards like Rebuff the Wicked or Lapse of Certainty are interesting to expand upon within the design space for white and will grant it back some strengths and uniqueness it used to have. However to be able to properly interact with the stack it cannot just be conditioned behind being the one targeted - that would equate it to hexproof/protection and also make it useless against board wipe or the infamous Cyclonic Rift one-sided board sweep.
Possibly the design space could include some "punisher" mechanics loaned from red but transformed instead of inflicting pain on the opponent, you gain a benefit - for instance:
Choose target spell or ability an opponent controls. That opponent may have Inspection counter the chosen spell or ability. If they don't, choose one:
- Create three 1/1 white Human Soldier tokens.
- Create two Treasures then gain 4 life.
- Search your library for up to two basic land cards and put them into your hand, then shuffle.
The flavor being to pass the spell you have to pay the toll (chosen by the Inspector for their benefit) or be rejected.
Taxing is the most recent mechanic that white has expanded upon and embraced but that is usually done on permanents as static or triggered abilities. This means WotC have to water down these cards' immediate impact and make the mechanic less enticing in the short run, which is often when it matters the most. Drawing Thalia, Guardian of Thraben on turn 5+ is often not that impactful, whereas on turn 2 you can cripple some decks. It would be refreshing if WotC would expand on the mechanic for ETBs or instant/sorceries with a here-and-now benefit rather than dragging it out.
Additionally the taxing mechanic could utilize other taxes than just paying mana to do stuff. Inflexibly taxing mana has a good chance to affix unfriendly eyes on you whereas gaining a taxing benefit - say Smothering Tithe is less likely to breed anger toward you but may instill fear.
Anyway, I think it would be good for White to gain a little more design space and I think more colors being able to interact with the stack would be a good thing - even if that means Blue has to share some of their mechanics to a degree with another color.
3 months ago
Hey, nice deck. Is it new, or are you on a budget?
I have played Vorel for several years, take a look at my deck. I'm not a fan of those simic mana artifacts. You cold use Vorel's ability on Everflowing Chalice and Astral Cornucopia to generate lots of mana.
There are definitely some cards that dont do much that are worth cutting off your deck. Like Elvish Mystic, Krasis Incubation, Dragonscale Boon, Nature's Panoply, Quirion Elves, Thrive...
It's nice to have some "win" cards, like Overwhelming Stampede and Triumph of the Hordes to beef up your creatures and swing them all at once. Also Blue Sun's Zenith works perfectly as card draw, that can also force an opponent to draw his or her whole deck if you have the mana late in the game.
And aren't you running too few lads?
4 months ago
Hey man I like the idea of popping back the thriving lands to be able to mana fix as you go. Add in Exploration and you’ll be able to play triple the land per turn.
That Breath of Fury combo is wicked!
I already have a lot of things that give everybody haste in my deck so I took out Karthus. For a 5 drop, I like having things be a bit wild with The Prismatic Bridge rather than hoping to have a multi color dragon in my hand to use Dragon Arch .
If you like Heralds Horn and Realmwalker, then check out Descendants' Path ! Another 3 drop that cheats out dragons.