Kessig Wolf Run
: Add to your mana pool.
, : Target creature gets +X/+0 and gains trample until end of turn.
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|From the Vault: Twenty (V13)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Kessig Wolf Run occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.09%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
RG (Gruul): 1.97%
BRG (Jund): 1.03%
RGW (Naya): 1.99%
Kessig Wolf Run Discussion
2 weeks ago
goldlion I agree with all of this!
Good thoughts on Eesha, I'll make sure to test her out at some point! Quick question, you mentioned her blocking anything but trample, but as far as I know, trample can't go through protection, since it never deals damage and thus can't have any excess damage for the player, right? Just curious on this ruling, I know indestructible doesn't completely stop trample, but I figured protection from creatures would.
I'm not sure how I missed Farhaven and Wood elves, I usually like to use them in green. They would be a good fit here, so I'll grab them when I get a chance. Also, perhaps the little known Yavimaya Dryad which has more synergy with the deck, being essentially a Wood Elves with evasion, but is a little harder to cast with a 3-color mana base.
I like your suggestion of Rogue's Passage, and I think its versatility could be high in this deck, since it can be aimed at an opponent's creature as well as our own. For a similar reason, I think Kessig Wolf Run and Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion could be good too. (Kessig Wolf Run is underplayed in EDH in my opinion, I think most RG decks should be including it, it's so useful.) Don't want to have too much colorless in this 3-colored deck, though at least it's greem so finding all the colors shouldn't be too hard.
I actually got a little hasty a few days ago and ordered enough cards to get the deck together in at least a playable state, so I'll get some chances to play it and figure out what works and what doesn't before I start making revisions again. Unfortunately that means I missed out on a lot of awesome cards presented in the last couple days. Don't hesitate to keep giving suggestions though, I'm enjoying what you have to say!
I probably should have put more of my budget into the manabase, but eh, I'll just have to make do with guildgates and stuff for a while. I'd ideally like untapped mana consistently on the first few turns to ensure my evasive stuff hits early, but in time I can start adding things like Shock lands, Crowd lands, Grove of the Burnwillows and the hilariously on-theme Forbidden Orchard. For now, a slightly slower start will be fine, though I am playing the three Fast lands in my colors.
2 weeks ago
Hi there West,
As a player who specializes in WUBRG big mana, I'd like to add a few suggestions.
First off, let's look at a robust boardwipe package. I recommend 3 to 6 Sweepers total for a big, slower deck like this.
Disclaimer - while boardwipes can be a big feel bad for some, they are often extremely helpful to prevent slower decks from getting #WREKT by faster, lighter decks. Just make sure your playgroup is okay with you leaning into a slower playstyle that uses boardwipes to keep the nonsense at bay (this will really depend on your meta). Keep in mind boardwipes also help you get in for Voltron damage, assuming you sequence your plays correctly.
- Crux of Fate
- Ixidron: Looks strange, acts stranger. This thing is in my top 5 for favorite creatures, as it deals a crippling blow to most enemy decks.
- Cataclysmic Gearhulk: Thins the board without killing your best things. Beware, the opponent will still have stuff, but you're betting that Ramos can take 'em.
- Sublime Exhalation
- Day of Judgment
- Wrath of God
- Phyrexian Rebirth: If your deck is ramping enough (I think your deck can probably do it) then this spell is bananas.
- Flood of Tears: It is easy to overlook the second sentence...
- Time Wipe: A bit meh with Ramos himself, but keep in mind you can utilize this before Ramos even comes out to save your best creature while clearing the way for big mana spells.
- Phyrexian Scriptures: DANGER!!! This one is so slow that it can straight-up get you killed. It might be okay with Ramos, but it could also aggro everybody. I only include it because it synergizes a little bit with Ramos.
So one reason your deck might be "sputtering", as you put it, is simply the lack of Card Draw. With about 12 Card Draw sources you should be more able to keep yourself going and avoid sputtering.
Generically good card draw happens to be mostly black. Don't worry about life loss here, especially if you do end up adding board wipes.
- Syphon Mind
- Painful Truths
- Read the Bones
- Ambition's Cost
- Ancient Craving
- Underworld Connections
- Urban Evolution
- Recurring Insight
- Phyrexian Arena
- Kumena's Awakening
Your removal package is one of the strong things I see here. My only comment is that Vindicate looks good but its sorcery speed, so a Beast Within or Generous Gift is better in my opinion. Nice job on this section though :D
It's a Trap!!!
Alright, so I'd like to help you identify the "trap" cards. My playgroup calls a card a trap if it looks good in the deck in theory but is actually quite bad in practice.
I strongly recommend against Morophon, the Boundless because you will be getting at best one or two creatures from him. I don't believe your deck is (or should be) tribal enough to take advantage of him.
Ponder and Preordain are unlikely to do as much work as real card draw spells, at least from what I gather skimming over your list. Your deck is going to be naturally slower (and that's fine if you have enough Removal and Sweepers to keep yourself alive) so don't sweat cutting the 1-drops for card draw spells. I would instantly run Painful Truths and Read the Bones in place of these.
Voltron: This is just an opinion, but your Voltron section looks too big. I think the best thing about Ramos as a Voltron commander is his ability to naturally acquire a threatening amount of power as a side effect of you playing a really good Rainbow deck! Lean into that. I know it feels bad to cut some of the artifacts, but you may find it better to have other threats or support for your threats, instead of relying on your commander (who is already a bit of a priority target if I'm being honest). Now granted I am not sure that you've got too much Voltron stuff, but my instincts tell me to avoid committing too much to Voltron. I have seen it end terribly many times and this deck has the luxury of Incidental Voltron, so I would take advantage of what your commander is already doing.
Also, just a general trap for big mana decks is choosing too many "Payload" cards (like Maelstrom Wanderer, Nicol Bolas, etc) while not including enough support for them. I don't think you've got an issue with that, but stay vigliant - you're the only one who can stop you from going overboard.
Other Quick Additions
Kessig Wolf Run: Supports the Voltron, lets you sink that excess mana, and only takes a land slot to boot! Simply a great card for the Voltron portion of your strategy.
Overall, this is an interesting deck design though I do think it could benefit from a more focused game plan.
Don't get me wrong, this is good stuff - I think you've created a nice first version. Please don't take my criticism of your card choices personally, these are after all just my opinions and I am very passionate about making WUBRG work well. That doesn't mean I know best, though I'm trying to share what tips I can on the topic. At the end of the day choose the cards you want, but please do add more draw spells ;)
Cool deck and nice first draft.
Cheers and have fun :D
3 weeks ago
Thank you! I've had a lot of fun building this deck.
The main goal of this deck is to ramp, throw out many tokens, mana dorks, and strong utility creatures like Scavenging Ooze, Runic Armasaur and Scab-Clan Berserker, then either use Green Sun's Zenith/Finale of Devastation to bring in, or cast, Craterhoof Behemoth, in order to win the game. Alternatively, Garruk Wildspeaker can use his ultimate to Overrun the board, and Chandra's Ignition targeting a massive Ulasht is devastating. As a tertiary method, smashing face with a Kessig Wolf Run is always an option.
The final alternate combo, which can be assembled via Gamble, GSZ, and Finale, consists of a few roles, filled by various cards, and executes as such:
1) The first piece we need is Ulasht, the Hate Seed, our Commander,
2) Ivy Lane Denizen, which allows the combo to go infinite,
The way it works is when Ulasht removes a +1/+1 counter to make a Saproling token, Ivy Lane Denizen puts the counter back onto Ulasht. You then sacrifice the token to one of the Altars, use that mana to make another token, and repeat the process. Each time you complete this loop, either Impact Tremors or Purphoros will deal damage to each opponent, or Goblin Sharpshooter will untap and you can ping an enemy for 1 damage. Repeat this loop until you win!
1 month ago
That is why Xenagos is so great. You can pose a credible combat threat without overextending. Wrath of God kill your Malignus? No worries, just cast Atarka, World Render on your next turn and swing for 24. Some meany path Atarka away? Looks like they want to get to know everyone's favorite 6 mana 3/3, Pathbreaker Ibex. If he sticks around for a turn cycle they get to marvel at the synergy he has with Kessig Wolf Run.
1 month ago
- Replace Prey Uponwith Moonlight Hunt: Superior speed, and superior damage output, without risking the loss of a unit. And I would also add 1-2 more copies to the main board.
- Replace Shockwith Lightning Bolt / Lightning Strike: Better damage output for (almost) the same mana.
- Lower mainboard Moonmistto 2 or 3 and replace them with Moonlight Hunt. The 1 or 2 other copies would be side boarded.
- Replace Ulrich of the Krallenhorde Flip with Huntmaster of the Fells Flip: Cheaper, almost as stronger and has greater impact on the battlefield (removal + life gain + token generator vs buffer + removal).
- Replace Wolfbitten Captive Flipwith 2x Mayor of Avabruck Flipand 1x Lambholt Pacifist Flip.
- Replace 1x Geier Reach Bandit Flipwith 1x Daybreak Ranger Flip.
2 months ago
I see you're running the urza lands and ways to get them all out like scapeshift, expedition map, and tempt. Not sure it's worth it to dedicate 3 specific cards for another 3 specific cards that are all colorless. Seems like it could lead to some awkward hands. The Urza lands are awesome when you can play more than one of each in your deck, I'm not a fan of them in singleton formats.
Also, think Once Upon a Time could get cut too. It's a powerhouse in 60 card formats, but I don't think it does a ton in EDH, it's nice card selection and it can be free, but when you draw on your first turn anyway I don't see a ton of value in it. Even if you don't put a protection spell in that slot. I think you could get a better card draw/selection spell in that slot with a card like Sylvan Library or Mirri's Guile, something like that.
Whatever you decide, this deck rules. Cheers homie.
2 months ago
Well, if you never had any problems with Kiln Fiend then keep it. There's no reason to change what has been working out fine. Just as a thought provoker, you can have Monastery Swiftspear to think about.
Maybe just bad wasn't the best thing to say about Rakdos Shred-Freak . It's just that it offers basically nothing more than haste. You have cards like Hellspark Elemental , as you mentioned, but also:
Earthshaker Khenra - Makes it easier to get to your opponent while also being reusable from the grave in the late game, and even bigger than before.
Ash Zealot - More of a Siboard card, but still, 2 mana for first strike, haste and punishes your opponent for playing cards from your graveyard.
Vexing Devil - Dont't know if you could fit this guy in your budget, but it's amazing. It's either a one mana 4/3 that your opponent will have to waste a removal spell or a one mana 4 damage spell.
However, the real reason I said Rakdos Shred-Freak is bad is because of...
Thunderkin Awakener - It can reanimate all of your (elemental) suicide bombers while attacking. So for only two mana, you can from 4 damage on board, with Thunderkin Awakener and Spark Elemental , to up to 8 damage with the Firecat. You could also put other cards in for him, like Lightning Skelemental and Spark Trooper , but those would require you to adjust the manabase.
Also, since you're playing these cheap suicide bombers you could use Unearth to reanimate them again and hit for a bunch. However, I'm not sure that splashing to black would appeal to you.
Another suicide bomber could be Impetuous Devils , though I don't have much to say about it. You can basically take out one of your opponent's creature by forcing them to block. Just here as an option for you.
Cards like Thud , Fling and Flesh / Blood (the blood half only) should prove themselves more useful than Soul's Fire . Since most of your creatures are dying anyway, there should be no problem in sacrificing them.
Manabasewise, if really want to keep Reality Smasher you can add lands that have a better utility than Rogue's Passage as most of your creatures have trample anyway, so your opponent will regardless always have trouble preventing damage.
I've been writing a lot today, so right now I won't go on too much detail about these "utility" lands. I'll just list some here and you can say if you liked any or none and I'll glady discuss about it.
- Looming Spires
- Kessig Wolf Run
- Skarrg, the Rage Pits
- Teetering Peaks
- Turntimber Grove
- Barbarian Ring
- Smoldering Spires
- Blighted Gorge
- Keldon Megaliths
- Memorial to War
- Sunscorched Desert
Just as a curiosty, I've written so many cards in this comment that TappedOut won't let me mark more suggestions, while most not even appearing for me to suggest.
3 months ago
Thanks for checking out the deck and for giving me some the tips! I gladly answer your questions:
- Tendershoot Dryad has been on the maybeboard for a long time, and I agree it would fit the deck perfectly. I really tried to add it, but I couldn’t find a good spot for it in the end :/. I kind of stopped trying after Field of the Dead satisfied my desire to add another token maker :).
- It is true that the deck wants to keep a low profile. However, that’s only until we are ready for a big explosive play! Omnath and baloth both provide that ability for explosiveness that I want with this deck. On average you should be able to get 2 lands out the turn you bring them out, which is already decent value if someone should indeed take it out. But their ceiling is pretty high combined with something like Scapeshift or Traverse the Outlands. So those 2 landfall creatures are not going anywhere :).
- I wrote about why I did not include Elvish Reclaimer in my M20 update. Short answer: it takes 3 turns before you can use the land you want, and that is too slow for what I want with this deck. I don’t think it compares that well with crop rotation, which gives you any land right now, untapped.
- Nissa's Pilgrimage is a bit too taxing for this deck as I only run 9 basics, and I don’t like that it doesn’t fix. In a similar vein, I valued Blighted Woodland over Myriad Landscape in this build, and there are no lands I want to cut for it atm.
- Castle Garenbrig is useful, but not necessary in this build. And unlike most other decks, every landslot here is super contested, so “useful” isn’t good enough to make the cut unfortunately :). Also, I don’t run that many creatures here.
- I don’t think Living Twister is all that good tbh. I agree that a commander deck should also function well without the commander, but that doesn’t mean it should always be able to do what the commander does. This deck has many paths to victory that do not require Mina and Denn.
- I got asked about Tempt with Discovery before. It is a fun card, but I personally don’t like that it is not reliable. Sometimes you might get lucky and get 4 lands, but most of the time I would get only one, ór my opponents do what they shóuld do and search for a strip mine and destroy the one land I actually wanted to get. The point is that there is no way to tell what you will get and I prefer reliability in my tutors.
- I used to run Kessig Wolf Run for a long time, but I removed it to test other lands. I assure you, the deck has plenty of staying power late game ;), but I agree it is a strong card to have access to. Maybe it will find it’s way back someday.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts! I’ve been thinking to add a section to the primer to talk about cards that I did not include. Maybe I will start that soon :). I will also have a look at your modified deck list at a later time.