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Karplusan Forest Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, you're using 21x ETB tapped lands. This is a lot, making the manabase really slow. To speed up budget manabases rely on basic lands and dual lands which have interaction with basic lands, check lands such as Rootbound Crag and tango lands such as Cinder Glade. Check lands and tango lands also have interaction with eachother which is very helpful. Budget manabases that use green are also better off playing more basics because they can be tutored for with land ramp spells such as Rampant Growth and Cultivate. Pain lands such as Underground River are also better than lands like Bad River.
In theory using the ETB tapped fetch lands such as Mountain Valley while slow can work with the tango lands such as Smoldering Marsh. The problem with the way you've set-up the manabase is you're not using enough basic lands, only 8, to make this interaction worth it. Even if you fetch a tango land it's still going to ETB tapped because it requires at least two basic lands in your control.
A playable budget five color manabase that has an equal amount of all colors is hard to construct therefore my advice is to pick two colors as your two most important colors and then splash the rest. Rely on artifact ramp such as Signets: Gruul Signet, Simic Signet and green land ramp spells, basic lands and ramp creatures such as Sylvan Caryatid to help to fix your colors. This means including more artifact ramp and cards that can fix your colors of mana than you would probably like, but is necessary for the deck to function.
I don't know what your Dragon decklist looks like so I can only use the original Dragon precon's manabase as reference. Looking at the original precon red is the most important color because a lot of Dragons have heavy red casting costs. Green is second and it's just as important as red because you want to cast land ramp spells in the early game which can not only ramp, but also fix colors of mana. Black is next, white and blue should just be splashes.
Here's a manabase for you to consider. The manabase focuses on green and red as the two most important colors and splashes the rest of the colors. This example $44 manabase has 16 basic lands and includes 23 green sources, 23 red sources, 16 black sources, 14 white sources and 14 blue sources with 6 lands which ETB tapped. It's set-up to take advantage of the interaction between basic lands, check lands and tango lands.
- 6x Mountain
- 5x Forest
- 3x Swamp
- 1x Plains
- 1x Island
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Mana Confluence
- Crucible of the Spirit Dragon
- Haven of the Spirit Dragon
- Path of Ancestry
- Savage Lands
- Jungle Shrine
- Frontier Bivouac
- Evolving Wilds
- Terramorphic Expanse
- Rootbound Crag
- Sunpetal Grove
- Dragonskull Summit
- Clifftop Retreat
- Hinterland Harbor
- Karplusan Forest
- Canopy Vista
- Cinder Glade
- Smoldering Marsh
- Sunken Hollow
- Prairie Stream
I can further help you if you would like with the manabase, but I need to see the decklist your using the manabase with.
3 weeks ago
Saw your Reddit thread, but don't have a Reddit account so I figured I comment here. Long story short your early game is weak.
The first issue I see is lands. All of your nonbasic lands come into play tapped. This slows you down massively. There's plenty of nonbasics that come in untapped that won't murder your wallet, OG dual lands, fetches, & shocks aren't manditory. Command Tower, Opal Palace, Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista, Rootbound Crag, Sunpetal Grove, Battlefield Forge, & Karplusan Forest all enter untapped & all cost under $3. If you need to play taplands at least play the temple cycle from Theros block that gives you a scry, the most expensive of which in your colors being Temple of Plenty at $3
The second issue is ramp. A lot of your ramp is suboptimal even on a budget. Artifact ramp isn't that great when you're in green since many people will run artifact removal, but not many run land removal. I would cut all of the artifact ramp except for sol ring in favor of land ramp like Sakura-Tribe Elder, Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, Nature's Lore, & Farseek. I personally prefer my land ramp to cost 2 or less if spell based, 3 or less if creature based, and mana doublers at any cost. The nice thing about the elves above & guys like Yavimaya Elder is that after they get your lands they make great Skullclamp fodder & okay beaters if you have Elesh Norn.
Third finishers. I think you have too many "win conditions". You only need 6-8 Finisher Creatures that'll be what you win with, and you can even get away with less since your commander is a finisher itself. You currently have:Ant QueenAvengerChampion of LambholtDecimator of ProvincesDragonlair SpiderElesh NornMirror EntityMycolothJazal Omnath Rampaging BalothsRegal ForceYou don't need 12 big stompy beaters/token steroids. I'd personally cut Ant Queen, Baloths, Spider, Jazal, & Omnath. This leaves you with Avenger & Mycoloth in the make a ton of dudes category, Elesh Norn, Decimator, & Mirror Entity in the pump my army category, & Champion & Regal Force in the I'm a dumb beater for extreme value category. This gives you more room to run low costed utility dudes who will either find the Finisher you need, make get you to them faster, or disrupt your opponent. Guys like Reclamation Sage, Acidic Slime, Scavenging Ooze, Qasali Pridemage, Karmic Guide, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Spellbreaker Behemoth, Fierce Empath, Tireless Tracker, Prowling Serpopard, Caustic Caterpillar, Elvish Visionary, Manglehorn, Ohran Viper, Aven Mindcensor, & Ulvenwald Tracker just some examples of cards you can add to assist your early game for under $5. If you're willing to spend a little more you can grab Eternal Witness or the new Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist who's price is currently in flux due to how new she is.
Fourth you have a lot of expensive spells that create a massive amount of small tokens. You don't need these. They only give you large numbers of tokens when you already have large numbers of dudes. These cards are "win more cards", in that they only help you when you're already winning. If you're behind & getting wrathed constantly, Deploy to the Front & Nomad's Assemby do absolutely nothing, you want cards that are good regardless of how the game's going. Avenger of Zendikar, Mycoloth, and Malrath should be all the tokens you need. Why dedicate tons of card slots to token production when you can dedicate it to ramp & have Malrath vomit out a similar amount of tokens for a similar cost? It's more card efficient & even if your opponent wraths you'll have a large pile of lands to recast Malrath & do it again.
3 weeks ago
Cascading Cataracts / Crystal Quarry / Sylvan Ranger / Rampant Growth / Bloom Tender / Birds of Paradise / Sylvan Caryatid / Utopia Tree / Reflecting Pool / Oblivion Ring / Gruul Signet / Golgari Signet / Simic Signet / Selesnya Signet / Bringer of the Red Dawn / Bringer of the Blue Dawn / Bringer of the Black Dawn / Unclaimed Territory / Cavern of Souls / Keiga, the Tide Star / Breath of Darigaaz / Nissa's Pilgrimage / Explosive Vegetation / Molten Disaster / Subterranean Tremors / Ash Barrens / Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse / Sudden Demise / Fault Line / Beast Within / Dragonlord Dromoka / Sylvan Reclamation / Wear / Tear / Grand Coliseum / City of Brass / Mana Confluence / Fellwar Stone / Solemn Simulacrum / Farhaven Elf / Wood Elves / Heartless Summoning / Urza's Incubator / Sensei's Divining Top / Cyclonic Rift / Reclamation Sage / Urban Evolution / Nature's Lore / Eternal Witness / Skyshroud Claim / Chaos Warp / Manglehorn / Vizier of the Menagerie / Relic of Progenitus / Chromatic Sphere / Chromatic Star / Terrarion / Llanowar Wastes / Shivan Reef / Yavimaya Coast / Karplusan Forest / Sulfurous Springs / Battlefield Forge / Brushland / Caves of Koilos / Night's Whisper / Reanimate / Anguished Unmaking / Swords to Plowshares / Path to Exile / Flame Slash / Vindicate / Sarkhan's Triumph / Preordain / Ponder / Brainstorm / Anticipate / Weathered Wayfarer / Safewright Quest / Temple Garden / Breeding Pool / Overgrown Tomb / Stomping Ground / Mirari's Wake / Nature's Claim / Fatal Push / Thunder Dragon / Scourge of Kher Ridges / Skyline Despot / Siege Dragon / Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund / Foe-Razer Regent / Eternal Dragon / Dragonlord Atarka / Balefire Dragon / Vorosh, the Hunter / Swift Warkite / Scourge of the Throne / Runehorn Hellkite / Rith, the Awakener / Prossh, Skyraider of Kher / Numot, the Devastator / Noxious Dragon / Mordant Dragon / Harmonize / Ancient Craving / Ambition's Cost / Dragonlord Silumgar / Dragonlord Kolaghan / Destructor Dragon / Darigaaz, the Igniter / Surrak Dragonclaw / Stormbreath Dragon / Sarkhan Unbroken / Necromaster Dragon / Icefall Regent / Hunted Dragon / Glorybringer / Fearsome Awakening / Dragonlord Ojutai / Boltwing Marauder / Thunderbreak Regent / Territorial Hellkite / Skyship Stalker / Dragonloft Idol / Dragon Throne of Tarkir / Dragonsoul Knight / Dragonmaster Outcast / Slumbering Dragon / Omen / Serum Visions / Read the Bones
1 month ago
Hey there! Sweet G/R Infect deck you have here! I have just a few suggestions:
- More pump spells like Giant Growth and Might of Old Krosa would probably go a long way in a deck like this. Wild Defiance is also good, maybe as a 2-of.
- You could probably make do with fewer infect creatures; Blight Mamba in particular is a little on the weak side.
- If you're looking for a more consistent mana base, adding something like Karplusan Forest can really help, as in a fast deck like Infect, it's important to have access to fast mana.
In any case, awesome deck! Good luck with it!
2 months ago
I had Attempted to use Thopter Assembly and it was just too slow of a card for only 6 Thopters 2 turns after it's played. Also I've noticed that Pyroclasm is the traditional board clear. I was considering Karplusan Forest , but my problem with it is it can't be grabbed by a Path to Exile and more often than not I end up paying the mana for Pyroclasm with either Chromatic Sphere, Chromatic Star or Prophetic Prism. I will agree, Banefire and Platinum Angel are definitely cards that deserve a place in this deck. After playing at FNM for a while I've also realized that Nature's Claim is superior to Naturalize. I'll definitely need to consider Perilous Vault too! Thank you for the suggestions, I just want people to be able to play modern at FNM and not feel the need to spend hundreds of dollars and all the suggestions i can get just make it that much easier to do so!
2 months ago
I like the concept, so +1. I have some suggestions.
Perilous Vault is the closest thing you can get to Oblivion Stone without paying an arm and a leg, and would probably work out great as a one-of in the mainboard. But if not it's great for sideboards too against many of the decks this deck can struggle against.
I'd play Nature's Claim over Naturalize in the sideboard. The 4 life may seem like a drawback, but you are playing tron, which is the best deck in the format at top-decking finishers, which means 4 life doesn't really matter in the long run. The real reason is so you can get rid of cards like Stony Silence when you are on the draw, and not have to worry about them.
Since Platinum Angel is only about $3, I think it would make a great one-of addition to the mainboard since it requires your opponents to deal with it. Also, Thopter Assembly is great at gumming up the board with Flyers.
I don't know if its needed, but Firespout as the traditional sweeper played in tron, and its still very cheap.
Karplusan Forest, got a needed reprint and is now only $2.5, although I'm unsure if you need it with your current set up.
Banefire is 40 cents more expensive then blaze, and is uncounterable if X is 5 or more.
2 months ago
Redelijk betaalbare land die je nodig hebt:
Per stuk ~ 8-10 euro
Per stuk ~ 6-8 euro
Per stuk ~ 3-5 euro
Per stuk ~ 2-4 euro
Per stuk ~ 1 euro
2 months ago
+1 FOR SOLID GRUUL SMASH AT LOW PRICE!