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Sunken Hollow enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or more basic lands.
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Sunken Hollow Discussion
1 hour ago
You should definitely consider running the buddy check lands ( Dragonskull Summit , Sulfur Falls , and Drowned Catacomb ) over any of the ETB-tapped dual lands you're currently are running. They are not very expensive compared to other rare dual lands. Also consider running the slow check lands ( Smoldering Marsh and Sunken Hollow ), as these will also be an upgrade to the many gain-life tap lands you're currently running. You'll find that these alone will make your deck more consistent overall.
And, if you get the chance (or budget, as I assume this is a budget deck theme deck) it wouldn't hurt to invest in the Shocklands as well ( Steam Vents , Blood Crypt , and Watery Grave ). But the above check lands are pretty cheap and will serve the deck well enough!
1 day ago
About those of your suggestions. I have been testing Narset, Parter of Veils by cutting Coercive Portal and she has been amazing and is here to stay but I don't know what is right to cut. I have also been testing Treasure Cruise by cutting Tasigur, the Golden Fang because Karakas has been showing its head.
And now to your maybeboard.
- First is that I would switch Liliana of the Veil because in a controlling deck Liliana, the Last Hope is just amazing because she makes combat unbearable for opponents + she is card advantage and win condition.
- I haven't had good time with Chart a Course and I feel like that it is more tempo card and I would replace it with Gitaxian Probe
- Search for Azcanta Flip is just too good not to play. I would cut Ashiok, Dream Render because I tested her in 2 tournaments and I drew her 8 times and never wanted to play her even on to empty field.
- I would change Liliana's Triumph to Collective Brutality because there aren't many creatures that you need to kill with sacrifice (True name, Mirran Crusader are the biggest)
- For some reason I have had hard time finding enough cards in graveyard to support 3 big delve creatures + tarmo + azcanta so I would suggest trying to cut Tasigur, the Golden Fang to Scavenging Ooze
- This may be only personal preference but I don't like Pernicious Deed in sultai for some reason and I would suggest giving change to Courser of Kruphix or Spellseeker
- For your manabase I would suggest adding more colored lands like fast lands Blooming Marsh Botanical Sanctum Darkslick Shores and cutting Volrath's Stronghold , Temple of Mystery and then either one of these Bojuka Bog or Sunken Hollow and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for Tectonic Edge . Personally I wouldn't even play Field of Ruin but it can fix and is good enough
- I wouldn't add Coiling Oracle any more because Modern Horizons is bringing us Ice-Fang Coatl that is just sadly supreme version of Oracle (crying because it is my pet card)
- Sakura-Tribe Elder , Shriekmaw and Recurring Nightmare are more rock like strategy and don't fit in + Nightmare is shit if you don't have enough creatures
- I would suggest to test Glen Elendra Archmage and Catacomb Sifter depending what your meta is like. Oh and Eldritch Evolution is extremely powerful card but I am not sure of it because you don't have as many creatures.
Otherwise your deck seems solid more controlling sultai that will win games.
I hope that I answered your question well enough. Also remember that these are just suggestions and not absolute do things and some cards may be better in different meta games.
2 days ago
Been super busy lately so sorry for the late replies!
@Limo: Thanks for the upvote! I'll be sure to take a look at your deck!
@: If you had read the deck description I've put the relevant ruling for auras there as many get confused by them; basically auras only target when cast so if they are put into play as part of an effect (ie. Zur, Replenish , Open the Vaults , etc) they can be attached to a legal permanent of your choosing (as defined by the enchant ability) without targeting that permanent. As MtgMaster02 pointed out Triclopean Sight is indeed both backup to Daybreak Coronet as well as an effective means to get Stasis up and running.
@SlowMoon17: I'd say both yes and no. I've slightly drifted away from the straight 1v1 environment to make it more resilient and able to at least hold its own in multiplayer as well (due to the local meta). I feel like there are faster ways of combo winning ( Doomsday , Phyrexian Unlife , etc) but that's just boring. There's something about playing land destruction/ Stasis and seeing the light drain from your oppenents' eyes that just makes it oh so worth it haha.
@MordMetal: It really depends on how budget you want. Obviously don't foil it lol; but in all seriousness you can save a ton on the land base alone. Add more basics and tap lands ( Arcane Sanctum / Vivid Creek / Vivid Marsh / Vivid Meadow ), use Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse instead of fetches, etc. If your overall CMC is still low swap Dark Confidant for Dark Tutelage , Snapcaster Mage for Archaeomancer / Mnemonic Wall . As for Timetwister it really depends on what effect you are looking for... GY shuffle: Elixir of Immortality , Card draw: Windfall , both: Time Spiral although it costs double the mana (and untaps!) and is still expensive although still cheaper by a phenomenal amount. These are just some examples. I'd recommend doing an advanced Gatherer search (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Default.aspx) for specific effects you are looking for in a cheaper card variant.
@Dankey Thank you! I like running Jace, the Mind Sculptor for the Brainstorm effect (and Unsummon effect if needed) to filter away any enchantments that find thier way into my hand (so i can tutor them up for free). In 1v1 Jace basically lets me know what my opponent is drawing most of the time too; so for now I think he is just too versatile to get rid of.
@cango35: I really like Winding Canyons in most creature based decks but i think it'd be kind of a waste here for a few reasons. Firstly I overall barely have any creatures. Secondly the additional 2 mana is killer... it'd mean i'd need 6 mana PLUS the land to get it off and that's just not worth the luxury of flash in my opinion. Thanks for the suggestion though!
@Auraprime1984: There are a few options. The rest of the mana base is pretty solid, so to be honest it doesn't matter a whole lot. You could add more basics, the third painland ( Caves of Koilos ), Exotic Orchard , maybe Tainted Isle / Tainted Field , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Prairie Stream / Sunken Hollow , Choked Estuary / Port Town , etc. You could also use some tap lands like Arcane Sanctum , Celestial Colonnade , Fetid Pools / Irrigated Farmland , Temple of Deceit / Temple of Enlightenment , etc. Signet lands are also an option Darkwater Catacombs / Skycloud Expanse . You mostly just have to figure out what would work best with your build. Hope that helps!
1 week ago
Hey, nice version, but I think there's too many five drops, six drops and seven drops here. 16 five drops are making the avg. CMC of your deck higher than 4.
4.2 avg. CMC is too high especially when playing a three drop Commander. You can narrow down the five drops and keep the best ones: Mulldrifter, Peregrine Drake, Liliana Vess, Devastation Tide, Oath of Teferi and cut the rest. The same can be done for the six drops keep: Duplicant, Terminus, cut the rest. The seven and higher drops keep: Razaketh, the Foulblooded and that's it.
Vela the Night-Clad is a six drop, but if you combine her with Felidar Guardian and Aminatu then it's a combo to make all your opponents lose all life since both Aminatu and Guardian are continually leaving the battlefield which triggers Vela infinite times. Consider including both Vela and Guardian as your main win condition with Aminatu?
Consider cutting many of the high CMC cards for lower mana cost cards that interact with Aminatu or give you good value for the mana cost? Budget cards $3 or less each to consider adding:
- Wall of Omens
- Rishadan Cutpurse
- Brago, King Eternal
- Animate Dead
- Telling Time
- Swords to Plowshares
- Reality Acid
- Oath of Jace
- Oath of Liliana
- Dovin's Veto
- Ashiok, Dream Render
- Narset, Parter of Veils
- Return to Dust
- Talisman of Dominance
Budget land $3 or less each upgrades to consider:
1 week ago
Hoobynobber7395yes! some budget lands that i would recommend to replace the shocks with are the bfz ally (e.g. Sunken Hollow ) and the amonkhet cycle (e.g. Canyon Slough ) or the tri lands(e.g. Frontier Bivouac ). instead of City of Brass or Mana Confluence i would recommend Gateway Plaza and Rupture Spire . however, casual doesn't have to mean budget, i have the lands, picking them up shocks now while there still cheap(ish)
2 weeks ago
Hey, my suggestions are to improve the manabase. Lands $5 or less each to consider adding:
- Exotic Orchard
- Cascading Cataracts
- Spire of Industry
- Prairie Stream
- Sunken Hollow
- Port Town
- Choked Estuary
- Caves of Koilos
- Underground River
- Seat of the Synod
- Vault of Whispers
- Ancient Den
Other cards to consider adding:
- Chromatic Lantern : helps with color fixing for Sen's ability.
- Fellwar Stone
- Smothering Tithe : treasures are artifacts and can be saced for any color of mana.
- Rhystic Study
- Mystic Remora
- Mystical Tutor
- Enlightened Tutor
- Demonic Tutor
- Anguished Unmaking
- Thief of Sanity
- Baleful Strix
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Phyrexian Metamorph
Cuts to consider:
- Meandering River
- Submerged Boneyard
- Rupture Spire
- Temple of the False God
- Evolving Wilds
- Terramorphic Expanse
- Myriad Landscape
- Akroma, Angel of Wrath
- Frost Titan
- Magister Sphinx
- Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
- Sphinx of the Steel Wind
- Sphinx Summoner
- Finale of Glory
- Argentum Armor
- Obelisk of Esper
- Hedron Archive
1 month ago
Dawn of Hope , Crested Sunmare , Soul Warden , Soul's Attendant , Divinity of Pride , Sunscorch Regent and Pristine Talisman are good budget (less than $5 each) cards that can take advantage of life gain or gain you life.
Exotic Orchard , Arcane Sanctum , Caves of Koilos , Port Town , Choked Estuary , Esper Panorama , Prairie Stream , Sunken Hollow , Irrigated Farmland are budget lands to consider to improve the manabase.
1 month ago
Flooded Strand , Sunken Hollow , Smoldering Marsh , Cinder Glade , Canopy Vista , Polluted Delta , Bloodstained Mire , Wooded Foothills , Windswept Heath , Marsh Flats , Scalding Tarn , Verdant Catacombs , Arid Mesa , Misty Rainforest , Aqueous Form , Whispersilk Cloak , Lightning Greaves , and Swiftfoot Boots added. 14 Forest removed. I could find only 5 battle lands(tango lands) and put the 4 on color in here.
Sunken Hollow occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.08%
U/B (Dimir): 2.49%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.71%
U/B/R (Grixis): 0.86%
BUG (Sultai): 0.66%