Creature — Dragon
When this enters the battlefield, this deals 5 damage to target opponent unless that player sacrifices a creature.
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Demanding Dragon Discussion
1 month ago
Cool. My first advice is finding a card or two that's a strong 1-drop. Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer I believe is the best choice for your deck as it gives card advantage + some ramp. You can also go with the hard ramp route by using Arbor Elf+Utopia Sprawl
For dragons to capitalize on, I would recommend guys like Goldspan Dragon or Terror of the Peaks or Obsidian Charmaw or Demanding Dragon. Dragonlord Kolaghan could be a fun 1-of card in the deck that serves as a game-closer. Smoldering Egg Flip seems like a really good 2-drop in this deck. Manamorphose would compliment Smoldering Egg Flip very well & give you card draw + mana fixing
Dragon Hatchling, Enduring Scalelord, and Orb of Dragonkind are terrible for modern & should be removed. Doomskar isnt that good for this deck and Earthquake is only good when we have lots of mana & dragons which we're probably in a winning position anyways.
This deck may actually be better in & use a similar shell to the delver decks that use Murktide Regent but you obviously splash in more dragons to get your desired flavor.
2 months ago
Hey, well done, nice update especially the cutting of Knights for more Dragons. Nice upgrades of cards that care about Dragons, but you could expand on this further. You've doubled your budget by adding only three Dragons.
Streamlining is the process of cutting out filler cards leaving you with cards that matter more for your deck. Blood Knight and Silver Knight are vanilla Knights who don't really help gameplay thus my advice is avoid these types of Knights. You're still playing too many Knights that are not helping gameplay.
My advice is don't include a Knight because it's a Knight, being a Knight is a bonus. Instead include it because it has other good abilities that can help Dragons or efficiently make Sylvia better. Taurean Mauler is an exception, it's just a three drop Dragon that's also a Knight. It's both types of creatures as well as can grow big in multiplayer Commander when have many opponents which is good with double strike. Instead of playing many four drop Knights play four drop Dragons?
You also use streamlining to better the mana curve which helps gameplay by reducing the curve which happens when you cut out unnecessary high CMC cards such as Rowan's Stalwarts, Worldgorger Dragon, Ancestor Dragon, Caged Sun. Worldgorger Dragon is only good in decks that want to combo with Animate Dead to make infinite mana and infinite ETB triggers of creatures. You can't combo with Worldgorger, all it's doing here is exiling all your permanents including all your lands until it leaves the battlefield which would hurt gameplay more than help it. Rowan's Stalwarts tutoring for Rowan, Fearless Sparkmage is not worth it since Stalwarts is a really bad card for five mana and Rowan is subpar for five mana too.
Example of a streamlined midrange creature base with Dragons and some Knights (sorted by CMC):
- Slumbering Dragon
- Puresteel Paladin: good with equipment for Sylvia.
- Knight of the White Orchid: ramp for Dragons, it can search for Sacred Foundry.
- Taurean Mauler: is a Dragon and a Knight.
- Dragonspeaker Shaman: ramp for Dragons.
- Chaos Dragon
- Acclaimed Contender
- Bloodsworn Steward: anthem for Sylvia and Khorvath.
- Vengeful Ancestor
- Opportunistic Dragon
- Thunderbreak Regent
- Terror of the Peaks
- Nesting Dragon
- Scalelord Reckoner
- Lathliss, Dragon Queen
- Scourge of the Throne
- Balefire Dragon
The few Knights in this example give you more than just being a Knight and the emphasis is even more on Dragons not Knights. More four and five drop Dragons to take more advantage of early game ramp and Sylvia's double strike.
In the example the high CMC Dragons have been reduced to the best ones you have. Khorvath is also a high CMC Dragon who you want to cast. Worldgorger Dragon, Ancestor Dragon, Demanding Dragon, Eternal Dragon, Sunscorch Regent, Runehorn Hellkite, Skyline Despot are subpar compared to the other high CMC Dragons here thus you don't need them. In the place of one of these Dragons consider adding Sarkhan's Triumph? It's an instant tutor to search for any Dragon letting you choose the best Dragon at that point of the game.
Shall I continue in another comment about how to streamline other areas of your deck?
3 months ago
Hey bud. I'm a big dragon fan, and am trying play dragons in modern. However I run into a few issues mainly being Blue/black control, aggro control, and white blue control. I wish more people would try and run dragons. Some suggestions I have...
Thunderbreak Regent pretty taxing for your opponents to remove.
Rhythm of the Wild good sideboard piece in my opinion against white blue counter.
Draconic Roar great removal piece for that benefits off of the dragon tribe. Good way to grind down your opponent.
Haven of the Spirit Dragon Good land for dragon fixing, but often more useful for bringing dragons back from graveyard.
Looks like you have a couple ways to cheat your dragons out, but you might want more of a ramp to get to them. Mana dorks can be a good choice, but a lot of aggro decks will take them out quick. Theoretically I like to have my dragons ramped out by at least turn 4-5. Anyways great build man. Hope it works out. I'd love to see dragons make more of a return in modern!
3 months ago
wallisface Thanks, I really appreciate your insight. I thought about it, I'm gonna lower mana cost overall and keep only Demanding Dragon and add Primordial Hydra as a "maybe expensive, maybe not" card, Dragonlord's Servant is a card I will still buy since I do have a proper dragon deck which I want to further use, but I'll keep it in the Maybeboard for this one. As of now this is still going to be changed regularly I believe, since I'm also talking about this with friends and trying to see what they think about it. I'm trying to make it a bit more consistent all around, and round up the rough edges. Vexing Devil is a card I have seen before but I completely forgot about it, I think it has a good standing in this deck. I might also tweak the amount of red spells and add Shock or Lightning Strike for a bit more damage, as you recommended.
3 months ago
Hey, well done so far with your version of Klauth.
You have Old Gnawbone, by adding Hellkite Charger then you have an infinite attacks combo that with Klauth can be infinite mana of any colors. Charger could replace Demanding Dragon. I'm a big fan of including green's excellent recursion. Cards that can recur any one card from your graveyard are helpful.
Good luck with your deck.
3 months ago
wallisface, I originally had thought about putting 24 Lands onto it, which I modified right before Deckcycling, I might have to reconsider it or go with some of my red-green deck cards, which does have mana ramp. I might just lower the cost over-all of the cards and keep the 4x Demanding Dragon, take off 4x Dragonlord's Servant, and replace Hellkite Overlord and Charnelhoard Wurm for some other less costy creatures, since the whole point of this deck is to play around Extirpate and Dash Hopes mostly, and I'll probably add Terminate too.
3 months ago
@Coward_Token, Normally I'd agree that dragons are overused and I personally can not forgive them for what they did to Tarkir, but I got to make an exception for Innistrad dragons. Innistrad dragons just have this feel about them that really makes them fit on the plane. Take these ones for example based on their art:
Versus how core set dragons look:
Innistrad dragons feel like what dragons should be, incredibly rare and beyond comprehension. The dragons don't take away or compete with the zombies or vampires or werewolves or the other niche horrors that terrorize the humans. They exist not to hoard gold, break castles or burn crops, they exist just to be scary. Dragons in other sets are fat flying dinosaurs that act like fat flying dinosaurs, but Innistrad dragons act and feel like specters just by their art, its like they're trying to mimic the same feel you get when you look at the art for Hypnotic Specter or Whispering Specter . I like Innistrad's spin on Dragons and I hope we do see one, because they're usually worth it unlike anywhere else where they would be found.
Also why the heck is specter not a creature type on the Innistrad plane? If this is how Innistrad does dragons I'd love to see how Innistrad does specters.
4 months ago
Have you considered replacing the abrades with Lightning Bolt yourself?
Icefall Regent seems nice, neutralizing a creature and requiring the opponent to spend extra mana to get rid of it and get their creature back. Here are some other card suggestions I have:
Dragonlord's Servant : Pretty straightforward, helps ramp into all your dragons.
Demanding Dragon : I think this is a good contender for adult gold dragon's spot, since they both have immediate board impact but this one's a 5/5 instead of a 4/3. (adult gold dragon dies to Dragon's Rage Channeler ;-;)
Stormbreath Dragon : Maybe 1-2 in sb, hoses white decks
Thundermaw Hellkite : Classic dragon powerhouse. Might be better in the sideboard, but still great against any deck with flying creatures. Beats up fairies, good against spirits, and delver+drc+murktide decks.
Terror of the Peaks : A great card, but might not be as good here since it's pretty slow and has no immediate board impact. Overpriced as well.
Dragon Tempest : Also helps speed up your gameplan by making all your dragons hasty, and wipes the opponents board at the same time.