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Creature — Sliver
Sliver creatures you control have "Tap: Add one mana of any colour to your mana pool."
Manaweft Sliver Discussion
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Good question cerobins5. I actually think green and red is where you want to be a for an aggro slivers deck. You could try to splash blue for Galerider Sliver and some better draw spells, but the mana base is going to get pricey. Gemhide Sliver or Manaweft Sliver can help out, but it's probably not worth it for an aggro deck.
3 weeks ago
Try Intruder Alarm . It's absolutely brutal once you have Gemhide Sliver / Manaweft Sliver on the table. Together with your CMDR, you will actually be able to go infinite and cast all slivers from your library.
We've found that Sliver armies tend to get wiped a lot, because people rightfully fear a lot creatures that are all able to boost one another. So we've included Teferi's Protection and Heroic Intervention . Also Yawgmoth's Will and Living Death , in order to recast creatures we lost earlier. None of this is cheap, but it's absolutely awesome in order to have us retain our army.
Last but not least, we like using Shared Animosity as the boost can kill opponents quickly.
Hope your deck works out for you. Happy brewing and playing!
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
1 month ago
Hi there, first thing that I would suggest is cut your Force of Will it's a powerfull card but in my opinion you have too few card's to pitch for it and most of them are too essential so Counterspell would be just better in this deck. Also some rampspell's could also help,because you have such a strong manabase you should prefer cards like Nature's Lore , Three Visits or Skyshroud Claim over Cultivate effects. Cryptolith Rite should also give your welcome redundance of the effect of Manaweft Sliver in enchantment form. Depending how much you still want want to spend Alluren is strong with this tribe and you would definetly get The most out of it on your table,if you want to add it you should look for more Big carddraw spells like Windfall cause your hand will be fast emptied.
1 month ago
CyborgAeon: Cheers for the response. I had looked at using Freed from the Real , however my biggest concern with it an Bloom Tender is that you end up producing WBRG each loop (assuming you have your commander out). This in turn is not enough to loop Sliver Overlord and then means I can't combo via it. That's why I went for Umbral Mantle instead - it lets me produce WUBRG from both Bloom Tender and Selvala, Heart of the Wilds . I was also thinking of adding Gaea's Cradle so that I could put Umbral Mantle on Kiora's Follower as well.
The reason I was looking at Nivix Guildmage was that as well as producing infinite mana, he can act as a draw engine for Timetwister and Noxious Revival without the extra card requirements. Though Izzet Guildmage seems good too, I had kind of forgotten about him. Talking to a mate about it, he was actually recommending Riftsweeper instead, which does go all in on the Acidic Sliver line but technically provides redundancy on every pieces.
I'm on the fence about Copy Artifact - it's not bad but I don't think I need it here.
As for Overlord himself, I get that he's basically a dedicated combo piece. But the benefit of him is that he provides access to all five colours, provides a tutor for the deck win condition and can help get there faster by tutoring 2 mana BoPs in the form of Manaweft Sliver and Gemhide Sliver . He's also naturally a 7/7, which is nothing to scoff at. I did think about Hivestone but decided not to run it as it's only good for mana fixing, which I can get with Cryptolith Rite . I was thinking about Arcane Adaptation which gives Overlord deck-wide tutor, but for now am under the opinion that it's too mana inefficient. I might change my mind on this though.
1 month ago
See, you say guaranteed, but I see two Predatory Sliver , two Manaweft Sliver , and two Shared Animosity , which means you have to have six cards in your entire deck that benefits from Hivestone . If you don't have one of those ready, Hivestone doesn't do anything.
In addition, your other Sliver cards have the same issue. They aren't good unless you draw multiples, which is not that likely.
On the other hand, you do need some early game, and you do need some ramp, so I guess the slivers are pretty playable. I mean they are better than the Aurochs, really, but Aurochs are cool AF, and if you want an actual Auroch deck, I suggest you make the build around as good as possible... However good that is.
2 months ago
APPLE01DOJ: there is 0 invalid arguments on my part. the number of noncreatures i have is irrelevant. i always have the colors i need. and even without my Manaweft Sliver , i still always have the colors i need. they do not nullify my statement. my sideboard regularly undergoes changes and often ends up full of noncreatures. i can run Terminate , Negate , and Deflecting Palm simultaneously without issue.
are we even looking at the same vampire deck? there is only a single noncreature in the entire deck that requires double red or double black. the Fiery Temper .
your hypothetical "ask yourself this" question is irrelevant. if you're stuck on 2 mana, you're losing due to not having enough TOTAL mana, not because of a lack of colored mana. when he gets that 3rd land, he'll be fine. the statistical chances of that 3rd land being another cavern are really low. by turn 3 (before the draw) you'll have seen 8 cards (7 opening plus 1 draw) if you're on the play. so we're left with 3 cards in 52 being a cavern before that 3rd turn draw. thats about a 1 in 17 chance it will be another cavern.
if you're being mana screwed by a single copy of nykthos, thats just bad deckbuilding or bad luck, especially if it happens "a lot". you either have too many cards costing triple black, or your permanents are being destroyed.
whether the use of counters are heavy or not doesn't really matter. better to have the cavern and not need it, than need it and not have it.
bottom line, hard numbers and math prove my point. you're confusing "possible" with "probable", and the 2 are not the same.
Manaweft Sliver occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%