Basic Snow Land — Forest
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|Want (2)||Deathholme , RylexandertheFriendlyGOth|
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Snow-Covered Forest Discussion
2 weeks ago
Hey there! Elves are indeed a super fun creature type, I've whipped up a few decks for them in the past, thus I may have some suggestions that may be of use for you! First off, Twilight Mire would make a great addition to this deck, and I can say from experience that they help you quite a bit. There is also Blooming Marsh, which may not be your thing, but works very well for me in some of my decks. Strip Mine/Wasteland can definitely up the power-level of your deck, as almost nothing works better than destroying your opponent's lands, especially since the ability is hard to stop. Ancient Tomb is also an amazing card, and based on the card costs in your deck, I think you could use this quite a lot to your advantage in the deck, especially because you're gaining life. Last but not least, I would possibly recommend Mana Confluence, City of Brass, and Reflecting Pool, if you think your mana base needs it, though I think it looks pretty fine without it. You may also want to replace all your basics with Snow-Covered Swamps and Snow-Covered Forest, as they are cheap, and function the exact same as basics, meaning they are still considered basic lands, etc, except they can be very good if you are facing a snow deck. While this isn't likely, it is always something to consider. Speaking of the mana base, there are some notable cards missing here, and I would consider the following for ramp: Birds of Paradise, Sylvan Caryatid, Nature's Lore/Three Visits, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Exploration, Burgeoning, Explore, Emerald Medallion, Sol Ring, and of course Arcane Signet. I understand a couple of your elves can ramp, but its good to at least have 7-10 ramp spells in the deck, and some of the above might be very helpful in that regard. Now enough about the manabase, how about we look into your elves! Here are a list of a bunch of elves you way want to consider: Abomination of Llanowar, Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Marwyn, the Nurturer, Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen, Fauna Shaman, Allosaurus Shepherd, Shaman of the Pack, Elvish Champion, Heritage Druid, Yeva, Nature's Herald, Joraga Treespeaker, Wirewood Symbiote, and many more! You also may want to consider some tribal cards, like Coat of Arms, Vanquisher's Banner, Door of Destinies, Herald's Horn, Urza's Incubator, etc. Last but not least, you may want to include Umbral Mantle, Sword of the Paruns, and Staff of Domination, because if you have Elvish Archdruid, Priest of Titania, or something that gives 3+ mana, you can get INFINITE mana with these cards, making them quite good! Anyways, these card suggestions may not be your sort of thing, or they may give you something to think about, but either way feel free to check out some of my decks, like Double Trouble EDH ⫸PRIMER⫷, and give them some support if this helped! Now I hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a wonderful day! Happy tapping!
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
with Field of the Dead I would recommend to reduce the number of duplicate basic lands in your list. A very easy way to do so would be to replace 4x Forest and 4x Plains with 2x Forest, 2x Plains, 2x Snow-Covered Forest, 2x Snow-Covered Plains
1 month ago
Sorry for the delay with this post, and the pending update. My wife and I just welcomed a new addition to our home, so needless to say things have been a bit busy. I will also be moving to a new house next week so It might be a week or two before I get to the update. For now I will at least give you my thought on the comments, as well as the deck changes that I have landed on!
I think I will start with the changes that you will see in the update because that is the core of the conversation right now.
Force of Vigor OUT FOR Ancient Greenwarden - Although removing Force is going to upset some people, I have been generally underwhelmed by the card. Sure, free removal sounds great but I generally play this deck in a turbo aggressive way. Sure, Force might be a better card, but doesn't really follow the way I have constructed the deck.
Return of the Wildspeaker OUT FOR Valakut Exploration - This appears to be a clean card-draw upgrade to me. Although this new inclusion might not be the great card draw in the deck, I do think I will feel right at home here.
Steely Resolve OUT FOR Nahiri's Lithoforming - With this update the deck will now have 17 total creatures, and 4 different cards to tutor them out. With that being said, Steely Resolve has turned into a dead card next to Sylvan Safekeeper, who can be tutored out very easily. Adding in Nahiri's Lithoforming was a no-brainer to me. Sure, it is a "bad" Scapeshift, that still makes is a really good card.
Ranger's Path OUT FOR Three Visits - I know, about time! The only complaint I expect to hear is why I didn't cut Migration Path instead. The simple answer is because I think the added cycle is better then being able to find my non-basics. Shoot me lol.
Myriad Landscape OUT FOR Field of the Dead - Another overdue change. The value behind a hoard of "free" expendable tokens is just nuts. Whoever at Wizards though it would be ok to put this kind of value on a land has my thanks!
Mountain OUT FOR Snow-Covered Mountain - Goes along with adding Field of the Dead. I don't see the need to split the count of basics in half, all that Field cares about is have different names, and this deck ramps out basics enough that finding the snows will never be a problem.
Perilous Forays OUT FOR Moraug, Fury of Akoum/Valakut Awakening Flip - Easily the biggest controversy right now. I think I can fairly say that no card in this deck has more of a conflicting argument on both sides of cutting and keeping a card in the deck then Perilous Forays. Some people wonder why it has lasted in my list so long, while others are baffled by the fact that I am removing it. That being said, I will give you my opinion this "iconic" Om_rath card. First, it is a sac outlet in a color combo that has few. Although this argument has merit, that is not why the card was in the deck. The reason the card stayed so long was the "feel good" of being able to sac Om_rath tokens over and over again while netting more and more tapped basic lands. The christmas land is when either Lotus Cobra or Amulet of Vigor were in play! Although I pulled this off a few times, it rarely won me a game. Second, the spell cost 5 cmc. This is the biggest draw back for me, it is a 5cmc spell that does nothing for me until I have 2-4 other cards in play. Third, paying 1 mana for the sac ability nerfs that card considerably. Yes, it would be broken if it was free, but there are plenty of free sac outlets that cost less mana. All of this being said, Perilous Forays is sitting the bench and is being slotted in as my playtesting spot. Essentially I like the look of both Moraug, Fury of Akoum and Valakut Awakening Flip, but I am not in love with either on the surface. And before anyone else say it, no I do not think I can take out a land for Valakut Awakening Flip, mainly because it cannot be fetched out. Moraug, Fury of Akoum seems amazing on the surface, but the deck has mainly stepped away from winning through combat. Ill let you know how testing turns out!
With all of this being said, Zendikar Rising has been an amazing set for us! The main problem is that the deck list is insanely tight now! Making cuts in the future is going to be a real headache! Also, the creature count is reaching a record number for us! If Wizards gives us a couple more creatures it might be worth considering different cards. Also, many of you likely noticed that I decided not to cut Genesis Wave, it has won me far to many games, and you guys talked me out of it haha.
Now for some of the comments that I didn't already address with my deck changes.
BenWin: I have to be honest, the Sekki, Seasons' Guide combo does not interest me at all. I don't like combos that include dead cards when you draw into them. I also am not a big fan of infinite combos, and my meta isn't either. Nevertheless, I definitely this the combo is powerful and you should add it to your list if it is your thing!
I think Skullclamp thrives more in decks that make small creatures that die on equipping. Having to rely on another card makes it much weaker.
Sylvan Scrying likely won't be coming back. Sure, is is nice to find Cradle, but I don't need it to win the game, or any other land for that matter. I have almost considered removing more non-basics to increase to total basic land in the deck. I haven't gotten to that point get though.
This might cause an uproar, but Sensei's Divining Top is overrated in my opinion. It is amazing in the right deck, but way to many people play it as the greatest draw card ever (maybe it is for Red and White decks). I have taken mine out of most of my decks and been trading them away at their overpriced $50 price tag little by little lol.
Daedalus19876: The Ashaya, Soul of the Wild combo falls under the same concept as the Sekki, Seasons' Guide combo for me. I think you could easily turn this deck into the Tooth and Nail and I win deck, but that is not what I am really aiming for here. If you build that type of deck fill free to post it here and share! I would definitely like to see how that looks!
_Arra_: I think Lithoform Engine is a good card an all, but not at all what this deck wants. This deck thrives off of the mass amount of triggers and activations we get, and doubling a single one will really not do much for us. All we need to do instead is pay an additional land.
TraceT: I actually do think Scute Swarm is right at home in this deck, but is unfortunately under the power threshold to even be considered for this build. I say play it if you think it would be fun and let us know how it goes! the same kind of goes for Impact Tremors, the right deck, but not quite powerful enough.
I think I got to everyone's comments! I will make sure to post the update ASAP. I start packing for the move tomorrow and should be all settled by next Sunday. Until then please let me know what you think about the upcoming changes, and I am grateful for all the support!
2 months ago
2 months ago
I'm going to parrot something that was said before (and this obviously isn't about Zendikar which we're all looking at closely but OP hasn't made the change yet and really should) and say this deck needs to add Field of the Dead. Drop Reliquary Tower, put in Field and split half your basics over to snow covered (7 Forest basics, 7 Snow-Covered Forest and 3 Mountain basics, 3 Snow-Covered Mountain). I have this deck in paper (and basically this exact list minus a couple lands like Cradle and Taiga) and it's far too easy to start pumping out zombies on top of everything else. It synergizes extremely well with what the deck (token doublers, ramp, etb damage effects, draw card effects, sac outlets, etc etc etc) is doing and takes nothing away from the deck. It's an absolute upgrade and OP should make the change.
2 months ago
Fetchlands should be replaced by more Snow-Covered Forests, no? Anti-synergy with Root Maze seems way more detrimental than occasionally wanting to fetch Dryad Arbor. Unless there is some other reason for their inclusion I am not seeing?
2 months ago
Full and extensive write-up for the last update is coming before the end of the week, but the changes that are for sure coming and already in the list are:
Cloudstone Curio out for Hyrax Tower Scout.
As of now, our girl has a 35% winrate on a sample size of 17 games that are being recorded thanks our wonderful discord community and of course, many, MANY thanks to SynergyBuild.