Basic Snow Land — Forest
: Gain .
Combos Browse all
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Latest Decks as Commander
Snow-Covered Forest Discussion
1 month ago
I've had my eye on possibly running Glacial Crevasses in my EDH decks for quite some time now as I feel it makes an excellent combat deterrent. By having this card on the field the whole table knows I can completely negate an attack thrown at me even when tapped out which can help keep combat-oriented decks from wanting to waste their combat step on me.
The problem is this card only works if I have Snow-Covered Mountains. If I have none Glacial Crevasses means nothing to my opponent, if I have one Snow-Covered Mountain my opponents might try to fish me into sacking it and if I have three Snow-Covered Mountains my opponents will likely not bother with me until the game reaches a 1-versus-1 state.
This card is easier to run in mono-red decks, but I want to put it in 3-color decks which means I don't want to flood my entire manabase with Snow-Covered Mountains especially if I'm not going to draw into Glacial Crevasses certain games.
Additionally would you count fetch-lands towards your Snow-Covered Mountain count, such as Arid Mesa , Ash Barrens , Bloodstained Mire , Prismatic Vista , Scalding Tarn and Wooded Foothills? (My 3-color red decks usually run all 6 of these fetches just to color fix with Ravnica shock lands if needed.)
Also how good would you evaluate Unstable Frontier as a utility land? If I'm running Snow-Covered Forests, Snow-Covered Islands, Snow-Covered Plains or Snow-Covered Swamps, I can use Unstable Frontier to turn any of them into a Snow-Covered Mountain and as a color fixing source if I have too many Snow-Covered Mountains, but I don't know if it would be better to just use another Snow-Covered Mountain over it instead.
Lastly, should I run cards like Alpine Meadow, Highland Forest, Sulfurous Mire and Volatile Fjord? I already run all the Modern fetch-lands that could tutor for lands such as these, so I could hit them very consistently, but I don't like the fact they're tap-lands. Given I run only three colored decks I can only ever fit any of two of them at a time. Would they be worth an inclusion?
Thank you for your insight.
1 month ago
3 months ago
Some possible How Abouts: Abomination of Llanowar , Boreal Outrider (you might want some Snow-Covered Forest and Snow-Covered Swamp if you go this route), Elf Replica , Elvish Warmaster , Eyeblight's Ending , Gilt-Leaf Ambush , Harald, King of Skemfar , Jaspera Sentinel , Nadier's Nightblade , Numa, Joraga Chieftain , Path of Ancestry , Pendelhaven Elder , Prowess of the Fair , Quest for Renewal , Quirion Ranger , Reclamation Sage .
4 months ago
I like the this deck concept I have several similar(I'll list one with the simplest concept I use) I love Witherbloom!
My suggestions come in your Lands, ie. instead of 2xCrawling Barrens, I'd run 4x Faceless Haven I'd also suggest running 26 lands if you are going to run with "Manlands". I would use 4x Darkbore Pathway Flip. No "jungle hollows" nor "Campus" they are too slow for Witherbloom. 9x Snow-Covered Forest and 9x Snow-Covered Swamp . One because the are considered "Basic" Land and two it only takes 3 Snow-Covered Lands to activate Faceless Haven instead of 4 for crawling barrens.
Here is the deck I had mentioned sharing with you earlier.
These are all just my suggestions, take them with a grain of salt. Ultimately what matters is designing and playing a deck you like/love.
plakjekaas on None
4 months ago
If you equip your Abominable Treefolk with a Paradise Mantle it will still produce snow mana. Add a Leyline of Abundance and the additional is not snow mana, because it's created by the enchantment, not the snow creature.
So snow is indeed a deeper Magic embedded in the supertype, that can be referred to in rules text ( Frost Bite ) and has inherent effect on the mana produced by snow permanents, which costs of cards and/or abilities may specifically ask for ( Arcum's Astrolabe & Ascendant Spirit ).
I don't know the exact reason Wizards decided to not go the same route with Desert, but I do know that a desert is not just hot and sandy and the opposite of snow. The south pole is considered a desert, due to its low amount of yearly precipitation. I'm glad that, if we ever see it on a card, it will be a 'Snow Land - Desert' instead of a 'Basic Snow Desert Land - Swamp'; whatever that would look like. Ecologically speaking, swamps and deserts are very different and hard to unite, though I'm not sure that would stop Wizards from trying '^^
Kaldheim probably wouldn't have been snow-themed if the snow supertype didn't exist already, but the fan backlash over a Nordic themed set without the already existing snow cards is something Wizards probably didn't want to deal with. Let's just be happy Snow Basics are very cheap again :)
5 months ago
Cool. Have you played it much? How does it fare against mono blue control, stax control, and pillow fort?
I wonder if there is a better alternative to Exploration, considering you are running light on lands and do not have particularly great card draw. I run it in a few cEDH decks but am Usually disappointed in the outcome.
Maybe something along the lines of One with Nature if you can get a creature through. Even something like Manabond may be better considering that it ramps harder earlier and you will be relying on your commander to tutor cards anyways.
Also, how do you expect to achieve the massive acceleration afforded by Cradle and Nykthos with Damping Sphere in play?
You may consider abandoning that entirely.
Since you run GSZ, you should run Dryad Arbor for a competitive edge.
Since you run Top and Mirri’s Guile, why not run at least a couple fetch lands if for nothing else but an occasional shuffle. I understand that Yisan should shuffle your library, but I can imagine many scenarios in which that won’t be an option and you will still need to search for answers.
I’m not worried about Veil of Summer—-I’d just hit it with another free counter or Dispel.
I think without proper protection, this deck would have a big problem with any mono-blue control (even on a $75 budget!)
Not trying to be harsh—-I really like the deck—-just trying to give you some insight about the weaknesses I perceive and how I’d exploit them if I were your opponent.
I hope this helps.
5 months ago
Also forgot 3 Snow-Covered Forest
6 months ago
Made a number of updates - 20 cards changed in total including commander (Roon removed in favor of Chulane):
Removed Roon of the Hidden Realm , 3x Island , 2x Forest , 2x Plains , Selesnya Signet , Simic Signet , Telling Time , Brainstorm , Ponder , Preordain , Foresee , Time Reversal , Terminus , Kiora, the Crashing Wave , Tamiyo, Field Researcher , Darksteel Ingot , and Terastodon
Added: Chulane, Teller of Tales , 2x Snow-Covered Island , 2x Snow-Covered Plains , 2x Snow-Covered Forest , Flooded Grove , Arcane Signet , Teferi's Ageless Insight , Tatyova, Benthic Druid , Ice-Fang Coatl , Reveillark , Prime Speaker Zannifar, Brago, King Eternal , Vesperlark , Glen Elendra Archmage , Seedborn Muse , Soulherder , Beast Whisperer , and Commander's Sphere