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Land — Swamp Mountain
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Smoldering Marsh enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or more basic lands.
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Smoldering Marsh Discussion
1 day ago
Lands and Mana
First off, I don't recommend going above 37. Your curve is currently under 3.0, so you could go as low as 35, but start with 37.
Second, basics are always a great alternative. using the top right pie chart, mapping 37 basics to the color distribution of your nonlands isn't terrible. If I advocate cutting something but you don't like/can't get what I recommend, I'd say basics are better.
- Bottomless Pit
- Dwarven Hold
- Sunscorched Desert
- Sand Silos
- Mountain Valley (can only fetch a mountain, so worse than a basic Mountain
- Irrigated farmland (lol)
I like basics more than the above. They either slow, don't do enough, etc.
Look to add:
- Friendly Lands: Dragonskull Summit, Drowned Catacomb, and Sulfur Falls. When running a lot of basics and duals, these always come into play untapped.
- Tango Lands: Sunken Hollow and Smoldering Marsh. These also should come into play untapped, and have basic land types, which are useful over time.
- Amonkhet cyclers: Canyon Slough and Fetid Pools. Cycling is great when you have enough mana and topdeck this, but all color-producing cycling lands come into play tapped. These are dual color and have basic lands types, so they're better than stuff like Polluted Mire, but it might be good to run the mono-color stuff, too.
- Storage Lands: Dreadship Reef and Molten Slagheap. These are categorically better than what you run, and are decent when you're out of use for open mana.
- Higher budget things, like fetches and shocklands: Steam Vents, Blood Crypt, and Watery Grave. On-color fetches are the most important, then off color and shocks are equally important. Once you get fetches, stuff like the Tango lands and cycling lands with basic lands types are a lot better.
Get all artifacts that product colored mana that cost 2 to cast. Signets, talismans, diamonds, etc., are great way to get out of the gate faster and let you run a lower land count. 37 land and Sol Ring is good, 37 lands and 6 mana stones is far better. In your colors, you'll be able to discard them off for better things in the late game.
There's always more, but I'd start here.
1 week ago
Thank you for taking the time to write down all those suggestions.
I did have a lot of Basic lands, I replaced eight of them with Dimir Guildgate, Temple of Deceit, Sunken Hollow, Smoldering Marsh, Temple of Malice, Crumbling Necropolis, Vivid Marsh and Barren Moor. I also cut Mycosynth Wellspring < Gem of Becoming and Manalith < Fellwar Stone which I think are superior.
I followed your advice and replaced a few removals and less good board wipes. Sudden Death < Doom Blade, Consuming Vapors < Dreadbore, Grasp of Darkness < Cemetery Recruitment, Extinguish All Hope < Victimize and In Garruk's Wake < Syphon Flesh.
Still tweaking a few things left and right, let me know what you think. Thanks !
1 week ago
Hey, great budget deck.
I suggest more draw: Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Painful Truths and Read the Bones. Consider cutting some of the less good high casting cost board wipes: Extinguish All Hope, In Garruk's Wake and Hex. You don't really need 6x high casting cost board wipes. Another option is to cut some of the less good six drop Zombies: Geralf's Mindcrusher and Maalfeld Twins.
Victimize is a great reanimation spell. Consider cutting Unhallowed Pact for it?
Slave of Bolas is a nice gain control of a creature/kill spell. Letting you attack one of your opponents with one of their own creatures and then that creature dies end of turn. Consider cutting Rescue from the Underworld for it?
You're playing a lot of Basic lands making Sunken Hollow and Smoldering Marsh nice dual lands. Swamps are your primary Basic lands which is good with the Tainted lands: Tainted Peak and Tainted Isle. Exotic Orchard is a good budget rainbow land. Evolving Wilds is another Expanse. Crumbling Necropolis is the Grixis Tri-land. I recommend adding all these lands to help the manabase.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
I feel like you may have gone a little overboard on the self-recurring creatures. Maybe in place of the worse ones you could include a few more graveyard tutors like Buried Alive or Entomb. That way you won't get stuck with a hand full of cards that do nothing on their own.
There are a few really strong draw engines that fit into a deck like this. Deathreap Ritual lets you draw tons of cards off of all the death triggers you generate, while Phyrexian Arena just gives you an additional card each turn. Humble Defector is a nice draw effect on a creature, that can either curry favor with the table or just be sacrificed in response to his ability to keep the card draw to yourself.
Finally, I think your land base could use some work. I'm really not a fan of the tri-filter lands, Savage Lands would be much better. With the fetches you are running, it would be a good idea to include some dual lands with basic land types. Some good ones are Cinder Glade, Smoldering Marsh, Canyon Slough, and Sheltered Thicket. In addition, I really like the new Path of Ancestry . Even if you only get to scry once off of casting your commander, it's still a tri-land with upside.
1 month ago
Where to begin. First off, we are going to pretend everything you have here doesn't exsist and start from scratch. You need 4 each of Dragonspeaker Shaman and Dragonlord's Servant. Using this as a starting point we see that red will be the primary colorwe are using splashing black for some poweful dragons and spells. Knowing this we should make sure that most of the dragons you use are only 1 black mana in the cost if possible. Depending on budget, shock and fetch lands would be ideal, but things like Foreboding Ruins Dragonskull Summit Smoldering Marsh and Canyon Slough can all be used to great effect. Some quality dragons to include you don't have in the list we discarded include Dragonlord Kolaghan Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury Mirrorwing Dragon Malfegor Archwing Dragon Thunderbreak Regent and Stormbreath Dragon. Now lets move to some on theme cards you could use to help get you to the later game. Foul-Tongue Invocation Draconic Roar Dragon Tempest Crux of Fate Crucible of Fire Sarkhan the Mad and Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker. Finally these are a few quality rakdos color cards that are all very good in any rakdos deck. Read the Bones Blighting Terminate Dreadbore Slaughter Games. Just some helpful info. If you play casually, then just have fun and play as you wish, the above suggestions are for a semi competitive modern deck. Modern isnt a very cheap format so expect to spend some cash to get what you need. Get lands first, then cost reduction guys, then removal/enabler spells and finally round out the dragons. Also aside from the 8 cost reducers only run 2 max of any legend, and no more than 3 of anything that costs 5. If it is more than 5 only run 2 as you will likely have a hard time casting it. Good luck
1 month ago
I'd be happy to help with the mana base!
For budget you can add more of some of the cycle you already have included like the scry lands of Theros block and the bounce lands of Ravnica block. Temple of Abandon, Temple of Malady, Gruul Turf, Rakdos Carnarium.
I don't consider any cycle that doesn't untap on your untap step or refers to storage counters to be very good, so at worst you could go with the "enters tapped" and life gain cycle, Foul Orchard, Bloodfell Caves, Jungle Hollow, Kazandu Refuge etc...
Usually in commander, and in a three color deck especially, you want all the color fixing you can get so I'm not really suggesting some of these over the others. I would recommend simply getting your hands on any of them that you can. TO BE CONTINUED WITH NON BUDGET.....