|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Zendikar Expeditions (EXP)||Mythic Rare|
|Battle for Zendikar (BFZ)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||None|
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Land — Mountain Forest
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Cinder Glade enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or more basic lands.
Cinder Glade Discussion
1 day ago
6 days ago
First and foremost, here are some suggestions for improving your manabase: Rootbound Crag , Blighted Woodland , Kazandu Refuge , Haven of the Spirit Dragon , Gruul Guildgate , Rugged Highlands , Command Tower , Temple of Abandon , Sheltered Thicket , Cinder Glade , Game Trail , and Kessig Wolf Run . I know that's a lot of cards just dedicated to mana, but I think the Haven and Kessig will pull both surely pull their weight.
Rishkar's Expertise generates great card advantage while you control a big dragon. Harmonize is another strong draw spell in green. Cultivate and Kodama's Reach are cards just like Nissa's Pilgrimage , and they help you accelerate your game.
Finally, Dragonstorm is a fun card that allows you to find whatever dragon you might want/need. It's nowhere near as good as Tooth and Nail , but it is a fun and more budget-friendly option for the time being.
1 week ago
Hey, this is a good start and much better than the precon, good job, but I think you can take this much further even on a budget especially the manabase and creature base. There's honestly a lot of cards that I can suggest be added and cut, but instead of doing that I'll give you some suggestions of good cards to add that are included in the precon, but you're not playing them. My other suggestions are to make two of the best cards here even better. Very nice Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre , Dark Depths and Sword of Feast and Famine :)
Good cards in the precon that you aren't playing to consider adding:
- Sol Ring
- Avenger of Zendikar
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Acidic Slime
- Turntimber Sower
- Jund Panorama
- Bojuka Bog
- Khalni Heart Expedition
Depths has very good interaction with Windgrace's -3 ability to reanimate lands, but you still have to be able to removal all the ice counters from Depths before you get Marit without having to pay each time to remove a counter. Consider adding Thespian's Stage ? Stage can copy Depths and the copy doesn't get ice counters thus once you copy it you can sac Stage which is now Depths and get Marit. Stage is a land with Windgrace's -3 ability you can reanimate both Depths and Stage at the same time and that's powerful. Consider Sylvan Scrying ? It's a low mana cost budget way to tutor for Depths or Stage.
Ulamog is 11 mana to cast and you want to cast him because of his powerful cast trigger. Ulamog requires a lot of ramp and cards that can search for him when you are set-up with enough mana to cast him. Cards to consider adding:
- Fierce Empath
- Signal the Clans
- Rampant Growth
- Kodama's Reach : another Cultivate.
- Nissa's Pilgrimage : another Cultivate.
- Splendid Reclamation or World Shaper : after discarding lots of lands for Windgrace reanimate them all.
- Anger : can be discarded by Windgrace and then if you control a Mountain all creatures you control get haste. Giving Ulamog or any other win condition creature such as Rampaging Baloths and the Beasts it creates haste is very good. With haste Ulamog can trigger annihilator 4 the turn you play him which is busted.
These cards are not just good with Ulamog, but many other cards, they're all just good budget cards.
Commander of Landfall is my budget causal Windgrace deck. Maybe it can give you some ideas, feel free to use it as inspiration. Some differences between my deck and yours are first the manabase. I'm playing a lot more lands for landfall and I've made it a priority to play as many budget dual lands that can that ETB (enter the battlefield) untapped. I'm playing many budget duals that interact well with basic lands because the manabase has 18-20 basic lands. I've made dual lands that are two different types of lands such as Cinder Glade a priority to take advantage of Farseek , Nature's Lore and Wood Elves . These three are excellent cards for ramp because can search for and put a dual land onto the battlefield.
Green is the most important color with the most sources in the manabase to take advantage of green's ramp, more specifically one drop mana dorks. Red and black are only splashes mostly for Windgrace. Good landfall creatures or creatures who interact in some way with lands are the priority for the creature base. There's creatures that let me play an additional land per turn or can put a land from my hand right onto the battlefield; these cards are the reason for 44 lands. I've reduced the high mana cost win condition creatures to just four, who all have great interaction with lands.
I'm playing other draw sources than just Windgrace because I can't rely on him staying alive. Budget tutors are in my deck, they help me search for a specific creature. There's recursion for other cards (any card or permanents), not just lands. This lets me safely discard a card that's not a land when I use Windgrace's +2 ability because I can get the card back if I need to.
If you have any questions I offer more advice.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Nature's Lore , Farseek and Skyshroud Claim can grab Smoldering Marsh , Cinder Glade , Canyon Slough and Scattered Groves . I would recommend swapping out Painted Bluffs , Memorial to War , Warped Landscape , Zhalfirin Void for those four lands. Llanowar Wastes and Dakmor Salvage are also great.
2 weeks ago
Some lands you might consider: Krosan Verge can grab Cinder Glade , Canopy Vista , Sheltered Thicket and Scattered Groves . Battlefield Forge , Sungrass Prairie , Exotic Orchard and Blighted Woodland are cheap ones to include. You may try Nature's Lore , Farseek , Skyshroud Claim , Kodama's Reach and Circuitous Route . The first three can grab nonbasic lands, while the last one can search for Gruul Guildgate , Selesnya Guildgate and Boros Guildgate . Mosswort Bridge is great with big creatures. Rogue's Passage can make Gishath go through. Boros Charm protects your board.
2 weeks ago
OK so the deck glitched out and it didn't work out the way I wanted it to so I will just put in a comment of what I would do/suggestions. 1. You have too many lands. 30-35 lands is what you would look for in a deck. So I would cut down to 35 lands and use those 5 that you cut out to get ramp. I would put in Sol Ring , Kodama's Reach , Zendikar Resurgent , Commander's Sphere , and Urza's Incubator . 2. I would also get rid of the things that are giving you non-dragon creatures. So I would take out Goblinslide , Devils' Playground , Dragon Fodder , Dance with Devils . This is so that you can use cards like Vanquisher's Banner and Door of Destinies so that you can pump up your dragons and do more damage! 3. You have some creatures that are there just to be there. I would replace all non-dragon creatures other than Dragonmaster Outcast . Dragons that you can use to replace are; Lathliss, Dragon Queen , Savage Ventmaw , Utvara Hellkite , Scourge of Valkas , Hellkite Tyrant , Moonveil Dragon , and Thundermaw Hellkite . 4. Although your dragons can remove creatures you need to be able to deal with enchantment, artifacts, and you also have to protect your dragons as well! So I would remove Draconic Roar , Echoing Courage , Sarkhan's Rage , Savage Alliance , Stonefury , Bathe in Dragonfire , Devour in Flames , Make Mischief , Reduce to Ashes , Sarkhan's Dragonfire , Atarka Monument , Staff of the Flame Magus , Outpost Siege , and Retreat to Kazandu . You already have dragons doing damage when they Enter The Battlefield so I would take out instants or sorceries that are doing that. Plus I recommended taking out some of the ramp that you already had because there is better ramp. For removal I would suggest Beast Within , Naturalize , Decimate , Hull Breach , and Vandalblast . Now to protect your creatures I would add Heroic Intervention and Asceticism . 5. Last but CERTAINLY not least, MANA! Ok so I know I mentioned going down to 35 but even if you just take away 5 basic lands there are non-basics that I would take out that might fix you down to 35 and then I will give some recommended lands that might help. I would take out Crumbling Vestige , Gruul Turf , Looming Spires , Pinecrest Ridge , Quicksand , and Vivid Crag . I would put in Command Tower , Cinder Glade , Rootbound Crag , Mosswort Bridge , Spinerock Knoll , and Spire Garden . Ok so I know that is a LOT to take in but please take note that I am in no way a professional helper. This is all in my opinion and don't let me influence your playstyle. I am happy to answer questions if I can and I am here to help!
3 weeks ago
You might consider some cheap replacements: Vivid Creek , Vivid Marsh , Vivid Crag and Vivid Grove instead of Dismal Backwater , Jungle Hollow , Rugged Highlands and Swiftwater Cliffs for extra mana-fixing (which is needed in a 4-color deck). Also: Llanowar Wastes , Yavimaya Coast and Shivan Reef are cheap untapped lands. // You might consider Farseek , Sakura-Tribe Elder , Explosive Vegetation and Circuitous Route for further ramp. Farseek can grab Sunken Hollow , Smoldering Marsh or Cinder Glade , while Circuitous Route can search for Simic Guildgate , Izzet Guildgate and Golgari Guildgate . // You might run Fact or Fiction , Steam Augury and Ancient Excavation for early card draw and graveyard filler for delve cards, like Murderous Cut , Dig Through Time and Tasigur, the Golden Fang (they all got reprinted). Brainstorm and Painful Truths are also great draw spells. // Izzet Charm , Crosis's Charm and Sultai Charm are really versatile removing threats. They could replace Scour from Existence . // Zendikar Resurgent is a mana-doubler, which can fuel big Comet Storm , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Exsanguinate and Curse of the Swine . // Since you are playing expensive spells, Deep-Sea Kraken , Combustible Gearhulk , Avatar of Fury , Avatar of Woe , Primeval Protector , Sunbird's Invocation , Metallurgic Summonings are great ways to deal a lot of damage.
1 month ago
I think, with my limited knowledge of how it all plays, even with Scapeshift in the deck, I'd run a few more Forest s so you know you can pull off a turn 1 Search for Tomorrow . Besides, the scapeshift takes 2 green, so it seems like you'd want more forests even more with that spell, no?
Worth a try anyways :). Maybe 4 Forests and 5 Mountains? The way I see it with these is that if all our land searches are early drop and in green, and we have enough of them, we usually want more green basics than other colours, cause we can use those search to get other colours, but we can't play all those searches right away without the greens... and farseek won't find us another forest. I know this deck is more red heavy, but there's going to be those starting hands where you could be playing a couple ramps in a turn if the forests are there, but not having efficient early turns if they are not...
Most of all though, I'd say for the sake of the consistent turn 1 Search for Tomorrow , you'd likely be an easy 2-3 turns ahead by turn 3, in many cases playing a 6 cost creature.
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