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Sol Ring Discussion
1 hour ago
Hey I'm probably going to buy this deck and have some of your listed upgrades. Do you have suggestions on cards to sub out for your listed upgrades? The cards I have are Abrupt Decay , Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , Sol Ring , Solemn Simulacrum , Grave Titan , Demonic Tutor , Lightning Greaves , and Deathrite Shaman
4 hours ago
Even when not as a commander, Neheb, the Eternal would be excellent ramp for you, considering Red's lack of it.
5 hours ago
Tbh I don't think Paradox Engine should be banned, I do think we should have a conversation about how to deal with powerful artifacts since a) most decks that can abuse them will and b) pretty much every game they come up.
I've seen this conversation about Sol Ring and Helm of the Host too, and I can definitely say this: although some artifacts can literally break a game, there is no better reason to run multi-permanent destruction or prevention. These artifacts aren't going to be banned. In addition, part of the fun in edh is the combos and giant plays that are ultimately unusable in standard or modern due to cost restrictions and pace of the game. Edh, while fast paced at times, would honestly be kind of ruined if we could pull of combos like that.
Also, the other part of it is the fact that most artifacts aren't game warping. It doesn't immediately become a race to who can most quickly steal, destroy or copy the artifact, unlike Prophet of Kruphix .
There is only one artifact that deserves to be banned, at the moment, is Celestial Prism . Just cause it's so bad and I have actually seen people use it.
1 day ago
In the event you run into anyone exileing graveyard ruleing is "903.12. If a commander would be put into the exile zone from anywhere, its owner may put it into the command zone instead." ive had this come up before in a game where someone refused to accept me putting commander from graveyard to command zone
Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
I really like this tho have you played it yet?
2 days ago
I’ve also played Brago and there are 2 very good budget things you can do with this deck. 1, ramp. 2, draw. Brago basically doubles your mana from mana rocks, so if you have a lot of mana and a lot of draw, that is powerful. That’s why Rhystic Study and Smothering Tithe cost so much.
Let’s start with ramp. He can blink mana rocks so your mana rocks need to enter untapped. No Fieldmist Borderpost effects. Instead, you have Mana Geode , Darksteel Ingot , Prismatic Lens , Hedron Archive , Basalt Monolith , Peregrine Drake (he’s fun), and anything else you have. Sol Ring and what not.
Now draw. Mystic Remora is definitely worth the price. It’ll draw you a ton of cards and Brago will keep the upkeep cost to . Other good draw is Trial of Knowledge , Sea Gate Oracle , Unquestioned Authority , Traveler's Cloak , Pentarch Ward , Curator's Ward (you draw cards and can trenchant your commander!) Heliod's Pilgrim , and more. There are always permanents that help you draw.
Shoutout to Cloudform and Lightform for cheating everything into play. Should you want to keep your manifested a creature a 2/2 instead of blinking it (for example, it’s an instant) you only need to blink the ~~~~form enchantment. Also, Reality Acid and Nevermaker do great.
Also, planeswalkers. Add them if you’ve got them. Like Narset, Parter of Veils . She’s good.
Those are my suggestions anyway. Now if you’re to take any cards out, I’d start with Serra's Blessing . Your commander can blink itself and all your creatures so they have pseudo-vigilance. I’d also remove instants and sorcerers from your deck that can be easily replaced with a blinkable permanent with the same effect ( Unsummon —> Nevermaker ).
3 days ago
Right off the bat, you should strongly consider Smothering Tithe to run alongside your Stasis . Each turn cycle, all three of your opponents have to pay to cut you off one blue, meaning Stasis is very likely to stay put.
Second, instead of running Bident of Thassa , you should consider running a Green Sun's Zenith to fetch your Edric, Spymaster of Trest . This gives you the redundancy that two of the 'hit OP draw' effect while allowing you to fetch other things with GSZ, including a Dryad Arbor turn 1, if you choose to run that, or Reclamation Sage to take out a pesky artifact/enchantment.
Similarly, I always feel weird running signets or Commander's Sphere in a green deck. If you have access to green, you have access to dorks (which are way better than signets). Avacyn's Pilgrim , Fyndhorn Elves , Birds of Paradise and Noble Hierarch are all REALLY powerful. Priest of Titania and Bloom Tender are both two-drops that make enough mana to be busted as well. Similarly, I don't think Solemn Simulacrum is ideal in this deck. If you cut the artifact ramp for dork ramp, you can run Kataki, War's Wage or Energy Flux to great effect. Also, Stony Silence becomes just... real good.
Playing lock pieces, you're going to draw a lot of counter magic. I advise Dispel as an efficient piece of counter-counter magic, as well as Flusterstorm if possible. In the vein of counter magic, I don't think Hinder is very good. If you're afraid of an opponent just getting value out of the spell in the graveyard, Void Shatter ensures that your opponent doesn't just tutor it back later.
I think Supreme Verdict is better than Wrath of God , if only because it dodges counter magic. You probably don't want to run two wrath effects (because you're a go-wide creature deck), so I advise just replacing wrath with the verdict.
Tutor-wise, Mystical Tutor and Enlightened Tutor would be great for this deck. Mystical can get any instant or sorcery you need, be it wrath or ramp, while enlightened can find you lock pieces fast. I highly suggest them both.
Brainstorm , Ponder and Preordain are all excellent cards that make a borderline hand into a good hand. I think all blue decks should run these Xerox pieces, as they find lands and/or important spells at a very low cost.
Depending on how prevalent blue is in your meta, consider Carpet of Flowers . It is a REALLY good card.
I'd replace Cultivate and Kodama's Reach with Nature's Lore and Farseek , and Explosive Vegetation with Skyshroud Claim . The suggested cards to not require the 'Basic' supertype, meaning they can grab your duals without a problem. Also, Nature's Lore and Skyshroud Claim allow for your lands to enter untapped, reducing their net mana cost.
I advise running Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth . With Derevi triggers targeting the enchanted land, these produce extra mana. Also, if you run Arbor Elf , they make it tap for extra mana as well. Notably, the sprawl can only target a forest. This isn't really a problem, as I think you should try to make your land base lean green anyways. Early in a game, you want to ramp first, which requires green and then enables you to find your other colors.
I think people tend to underestimate the power of soft-counters in EDH games. In the late game, when players have ramped their entire decks out, they do tend to be somewhat useless. However, early interaction is invaluable. I recommend at least trying Spell Pierce in a few games, as this can counter an early Sol Ring and make all the difference.
Speaking of odd EDH counterspells, Mental Misstep is another tremendously undervalued card. If your meta is fast, it can be a complete game changer; if your meta is slow, it is indeed useless. That's a meta call, but I put it out there because I've had great success with it.
Mystic Remora is a good way to draw cards if it comes down turn 2 or 3. You should consider running it.
I would suggest running Sower of Temptation over Keiga, the Tide Star . It is vulnerable to removal, but gaining control of a creature and impacting the board right away is worth it, at least in my opinion. Similarly, if you want to lay down some real cash, Gilded Drake is a good option.
You should at least consider running Thalia, Guardian of Thraben . With dorks and the untap abilities from your general, you're likely to have more mana than your opponents, making her ability more and more one-sided.
I think Reflecting Pool is probably better than Meteor Crater . You might also consider running City of Brass and Mana Confluence , as I've had good success with these in 3-color decks. Exotic Orchard and Forbidden Orchard are also considerations for mana fixing.
I feel that Mulldrifter is included because it can be flickered with Roon of the Hidden Realm and Brago, King Eternal . Seeing as the blink effects aren't in the command zone, I think just running Fact or Fiction and/or Dig Through Time would be better, as they are instants and let you leave up counter magic. Treasure Cruise is good too, although this is a sorcery. Chart a Course , Slate of Ancestry and Shamanic Revelation are also good cards for this deck.
You may wish to consider Howling Mine . It will always draw you a card on your draw step, as the untap step comes first. However, if you tap it down with your general's ability, the effect becomes asymmetric.
Good luck with deck building!
3 days ago
So my first thought is that you should run a LOT of instants, rather than just 2. Vial smasher can trigger on ANY turn, not just one, so running something like Dig Through Time would be... really good. Generally, you'll want these instants to draw you more cards, so Fact or Fiction and Glimmer of Genius are also fine choices. Cards with alternate casting costs also tend to have high CMCs: for example, Force of Will is a Lava Axe in this deck, as well as a counter spell. While Force may be a pricey card, other cards from the same cycle aren't. Contagion is well under a dollar, and can potentially also 2-for-1 with opposing creatures, while Pyrokinesis is even stronger. Misdirection and Commandeer also come to mind. If you want to get REAL spicy, Mind's Dilation is another good way to cast spell on your opponents' turns, but bear in mind this card tends to be killed pretty fast.
Flash creatures like Torrential Gearhulk also seem like pretty good ideas.
I suggest replacing Vedalken Orrery with Leyline of Anticipation . It's (very) slightly harder to remove an enchantment than an artifact, but more importantly if Leyline is in your opening 7, you avoid having to pay its cost. I can see a world where you play both, though.
I see you're running a few mana rocks, but I advise more. Two mana rocks tend to be far superior to 3 mana rocks, so Dimir Signet and Rakdos Signet are likely better than Thought Vessel or Worn Powerstone . Talisman of Dominance and Talisman of Indulgence also come to mind. Being in green means you have access to a whole host of dorks, like Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Arbor Elf , and Elves of Deep Shadow . These 1-drops may not look like much, but being able to accelerate you into quickly casting your general and then the following high-cost cards is a good thing. Orcish Lumberjack is a personal favorite in any red-green deck. However, if you choose to go via artifact ramp and not dork-ramp, this opens you to using effects like Pyroclasm or Volcanic Fallout to keep opponents' creatures in check. Ancient Tomb tends to be REAL nice for powering out turn-one 2-drop rocks. Depending on how blue-heavy your meta is, Carpet of Flowers can range from good to a straight-up powerhouse. If you take this part of my advice, your curve will drop significantly and you will be able to run 32-ish lands with no real problem.
You'll also probably want a good card-draw package, if you're planning to cast a lot of spells. Azra Oddsmaker is a goldmine if you have an open opponent to attack, and black has access to enchantments like Phyrexian Arena . Night's Whisper and Ambition's Cost are also good, and work well with Kydele.
Delve spells will act sort of like X-cost spells, but be easier to cast late-game and harder early-game. Empty the Pits may be interesting, but you should also consider Logic Knot , Treasure Cruise and Tasigur, the Golden Fang . Tasigur will give you an out later in the game for excess mana, and will allow you a level of recursion. In order to make these cards powerful, you need cards in the graveyard. For that, I recommend Faithless Looting , Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip and Dack Fayden . While these last two are pricier cards, I think looting is the best here of the three, as you can cast it turn one to filter out a hand that may be too heavy in lands or spells. The flashback is also very significant. Jace is a powerful card in that he allows more card filtration on a permanent, and allows you to snap back a spell if you want. Dack Fayden is a boss in EDH, where stealing a Sol Ring is very common. So even if you don't need to filter your draws, stealing a rock should be an option about 98% of the time.
Speaking of card filtration, Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm are all potent cards in any blue deck. While they may not work particularly well with Vial Smasher, they all work rather well with Kydele while also giving you a cantrip to cast turn 1. A lot of times, these are the cards that make a boarderline-keep hand into a keep hand for me, as they are extremely good at finding lands and/or spells as need be.
With Kydele, cards like Windfall , Wheel of Fortune and Winds of Change all become rituals in addition to their usual effects. Running Notion Thief in conjunction with these 'everyone draws' spells is... good. Similarly, targeting an opponent with Dack Fayden 's +1 while Notion Thief is on the field is a pretty good way to tip the card-advantage scales in your favor.
I like Whip of Erebos . You should consider running some Entomb or Buried Alive effects with it, as that would allow you to get some one-shots in with powerful creatures when hitting an opponent or just when entering the battlefield. Nicol Bolas and Massacre Wurm comes to mind.
Good luck with deck building!
3 days ago
I agree with DrkNinja, you really need at least some ramp.
I like the deck though, looks fun!
Sol Ring occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 1.03%
G/U (Simic): 2.4%
U/B (Dimir): 3.97%
GW (Selesnya): 2.71%
W/B (Orzhov): 2.1%
W/U (Azorius): 3.76%
U/R (Izzet): 2.63%
RG (Gruul): 2.81%
RW (Boros): 5.76%
W/U/B (Esper): 2.33%
RUG (Temur): 3.93%
RBW (Mardu): 2.08%
RGW (Naya): 4.07%
BRG (Jund): 2.99%
U/B/R (Grixis): 2.42%
BGW (Abzan, Junk): 5.3%
GWU (Bant): 2.17%
RUW (Jeskai, America): 17.14%
BUG (Sultai): 2.29%