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Vessel of Nascency
, Sacrifice Vessel of Nascency: Reveal the top four cards of your library. You may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card from among them into your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard.
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Vessel of Nascency Discussion
3 weeks ago
Would love to see a deck built around Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar with The Mending of Dominaria and with a delirium theme with black and green containing cards such as Vessel of Nascency and The Gitrog Monster.
The budget is around $50 - It does not have to be competetive! Casual is fine.
Would appreciate to see your take on this :)
1 month ago
I need Rites!
1 month ago
What about Jace's Erasure which let you draw 2 Cards each turn... it's a Rhystic Study with less CMC and much cheaper in price. Additionally I would recommend Hedron Archive for early Ramp and Carddraw in the lategame when you have enough mana to spare. Deranged Assistant and Millikin let you "draw" cards and ramp you early to get Muldrotha way earlier.
I would in fact think about playing no instants or sorceries at all to get more value out of your commander and nearly every instant or sorcery effect is now available on a permanent type - maybe sometimes not that good but good enough to want to abuse it.
Another card i would change would be Shriekmaw... Cards like Ravenous Chupacabra or Noxious Gearhulk dont have any restrictions and Gearhulk also gives you life and can hit enemies hard due to Menace. In commander, usually played as multiplayer, I think it is more important to be able to hit as many threats as possible. And I live and play EDH in the sense of "think BIG"... so I would pay 2 CMC more every day for the chance to hit that nasty Sheoldred or Grave Titan.
And one of the most underrated card-draw cards for Muldrotha imo is Jace's Archivist. It gives you alot of value and also cripples our enemies by letting them discard their precious cards they just tutored or drew...In my opinion much better and usefull in that deck than Fact or Fiction or Vessel of Nascency
1 month ago
Hm. My initial response to AS was 'yes!', seeing as the deck doesn't start playing Magic until turn 2 or 3. A turn one play would be nice... and I do have a handful of green sources already...
But alas, the cards I usually need in order to not die by turn 4 or 5, are white. The deck often wins or loses by Ghostly Prison, & sometimes also Magus. Everything else can take its sweet time to come out, truthfully (unless I'm playing Rock/BGx, wherein I'm needing to race the inevitable Abrupt Decay topdeck). So my second response is a 'no'...
But then... what if I were to replace Prisons with Ensnaring Bridges? Bridge has synergy with Colossus... but with so many 4 & 5 drops, my hand doesn't empty overly quickly. Bridges with Bottled Cloister, maybe?
Thanks for the suggestion, BlazingAbsol. Some testing is in order, I think. Shame there isn't a 1 CMC-to-cast/use version of Vessel of Nascency.
1 month ago
You are more than welcome and Im happy to be helping out as much as I can!
For the land count, Im not going to lie, it stresses me out sometimes as well haha. I can say that 4/10 times your hand is pretty well structured, while the rest 6/10 you'd need to mulligan into something playable and rampable. But I find that since permanents can be used an reused, a combination between Wood Elves, Expedition Map, and Regal Behemoth like cards helps me curve out while building early advantage. Note however that I haven't really playtested my deck with my group all that much yet, so this is all theory and testing so far. But you can try it out yourself, and the best thing is that you get to play more sweet permanents (#allthevalue)
Windfall seems a bit awkward to me, but I presume it is to renew your hand and fill your grave. You already have Forgotten Creation for that purpose as far as I understand. So I would say either Credit Voucher, which selectively refills your hands and makes T1 with 2 lands/high cmc cards playable. Or if its about the graveyard filling id say you're covered with Dredge and Perpetual Timepiece. You could also swap it out for Sultai Ascendancy to have redundancy on dumping your top to the grave (with even more control cause you choose what to send there)
Grim Return could also be replaced for some ramp, with the idea of bringing your commander out sooner and reanimating with him (well recasting technically). Plus makes the overall engine a little bit faster, since ramp is always good! Id say maybe for something like Sylvan Caryatid
Now tutors. I see importantly Demonic and Burried Alive as a pseudo creature tutor. Id replace any of them for Sidisi, Undead Vizier and maybe Rune-Scarred Demon. The demon is a bit high CMC so not necessary, but I definitely recommend Sidisi in a creature strategy. Reusable with Mul, and cloneable for value! Speaking of clones, you could double up any creature effect with Phantasmal Image, creature or artifact with Phyrexian Metamorph and any permanent-ANY permanent- with Clever Impersonator.
Well thats it for now.
2 months ago
Thanks a lot for the suggestions, Imm3nse! I like the idea of protection for Muldrotha, the Gravetide, but I like hexproof better than shroud so I went with Swiftfoot Boots and Canopy Cover instead of Lightning Greaves. Nevinyrral's Disk and Oblivion Stone seem nice, mass destruction effects are definitely a bonus.
Squirrel_of_War I originally had Font of Fertility in here, and it is a great fit! Unfortunately I just cut it to make room for the cards mentioned above. I think I have enough repeatable ramp, and Font of Fertility seemed like the one that had the smallest impact. The other option was Vessel of Nascency, but at least that mills and I can grab something other than a land if I don't need one. Thanks for the suggestion though!
2 months ago
One more toy I found recently: Vessel of Nascency. Low cost, self-sacrificed, and tutors literally for everything Muldrotha allows you to re-use.
2 months ago
I really like how the list is developing! Give us a few updates on playtesting if possible in the future. Im looking to do the same as soon as Muldrotha arrives!
Other than that. I really have to recommend Vessel of Nascency. Super low cost, self-sacrificed and filters 4 cards for literally what Muldrotha can reuse. Its been working great for me so far, so let me know what you think.