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Vessel of Nascency
, Sacrifice Vessel of Nascency: Reveal the top four cards of your library. You may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, land, or planeswalker card from among them into your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard.
Vessel of Nascency Discussion
1 month ago
Deck link? I assume you mean Ooze Jund though?
I actually have an Ooze-centred deck (Classic Jund-er!) and while it's not super competitive I've got a few thoughts based on my own experiences. First, I'd drop Cryptbreaker : you've got no cards that benefit from being discarded, and only two that utilise the cards once they're in the graveyard. Playing on the counters theme are Corpsejack Menace and Winding Constrictor . The latter is the perfect follow-up to Bloodhall Ooze as they give it four counters a turn regardless of anything else on the field while the former is really just a win-more that will see your counters getting out of control very quickly. Neither play well with Devoted Druid but I'm not convinced you need him anyway as your mana base is pretty strong, if lacking Raging Ravine and perhaps a basic Forest or two. Speaking of, if you think you can handle the triple green you might want to think about Predator Ooze as a one or two-of. Next, are Doom Whisperer or Morselhoarder contributing meaningfully to your game plan? Considering the the theme, I would suggest replacing the higher-end gribblies with a more synergistic payoff such as Biogenic Ooze as well as including a fourth Walking Ballista . Acidic Slime is very versatile as well but probably not worth the main board, perhaps it could replace Wickerbough Elder ?
Other than its creatures, Jund's main strengths are all about being interactive. First is hand disruption, so including some discard spells is practically obligatory. Whether you want to go with any of the first turn options ( Duress et al) or the retro Blightning is up to you, but the former is probably of more value for this deck and gives it a strong opener that sets back your opponent while giving you information. On the removal front I would cut Font of Agonies because you simply don't have enough ways to repeatably pay life consistently early on and is a dead draw later. The fact that it is also an enchantment that your opponent knows you have and can play around or simply destroy once you get to three counters really puts the nail in its coffin. The truth is that Jund is spoiled for choice when it comes to destroying anything, even on a limited budget you've got access to Lightning Bolt , Putrefy and Terminate . Then if you want to upgrade you can look into Fatal Push , Abrupt Decay / Assassin's Trophy , Maelstrom Pulse and Kolaghan's Command . Vessel of Nascency also feels very sub-par and is rather mana hungry: Jund in all its flavours is about that Dat Walue and three mana for one card doesn't feel like a good deal. Especially when, again, you've no Tarmogoyf s or other things that want a graveyard stacked with different card types. Both oozes looking in that direction prefer a creature-based diet, so focus on attacking, making aggressive trades and simply blowing up any creatures your opponent brings out.
Sideboard I'll avoid commenting on unless you have a specific question because it's pretty meta-dependant, though four Pithing Needle s seems like a lot. Any card in particular giving you trouble? Anyway hope that helps, or at least gives you something to think about.
3 months ago
Hey, several good cards here especially in the manabase. Consider expanding on the value you can get from Muldrotha?
Budget cards to consider adding:
- Command Tower : one of the best lands for multicolored Commander decks.
- Mystic Remora : one of the best repeatable no mana cost sources of draw in multiplayer Commander. Don't pay the upkeep cost on your turn and play it from your graveyard with Muldrotha to potentially draw cards during each of your opponents turns. Play it early game and it can give you a big advantage.
- Animate Dead : powerful reanimation enchantment that can target any creature in any graveyard including your opponents.
- Pernicious Deed : versatile repeatable nonland permanent board wipe because you have some control over what's destroyed. Pay five mana to destroy nonland 5 CMC or less cards which doesn't destroy Muldrotha.
- Commander's Sphere : ramp, sac it to draw a card.
- Mind Stone : ramp, sac it to draw a card.
- Coiling Oracle : two drop, mana efficient creature to get value with Muldrotha.
- Buried Alive : tutor for three different creatures and put them into your graveyard to then play them from your graveyard with Muldrotha.
- Vessel of Nascency : repeatable way to search top of library for certain cards, the cards you don't choose go to the graveyard which fuels Muldrotha.
- Wood Elves or Farhaven Elf : ramp, Wood can search for a dual land: Overgrown or Breeding. Farhaven can search for a basic land and both of these puts the land you searched for onto the battlefield.
- Seal of Primordium
Cards to consider cutting:
- Ipnu Rivulet
- Leechridden Swamp
- Quest for the Gravelord
- Font of Fertility
- Seal of Removal
- Unhallowed Pact
- Burnished Hart
- Golgari Cluestone
- Slum Reaper
4 months ago
The Oaths are good as a budget options with Planeswalkers: Oath of Nissa , Oath of Liliana and Oath of Jace . Oath of Nissa can help to color fix for Planeswalkers, good with a budget Sultai manabase. Grateful Apparition can be another repeatable source of no mana cost proliferate. Pir, Imaginative Rascal is a less expensive price Doubling Season effect.
Pernicious Deed is powerful because it destroys all nonland permanents except Planeswalkers equal or less than the amount of X you pay. Spore Frog can be a repeatable Fog which is good to protect Planeswalkers. Vessel of Nascency is a budget way to repeatedly try to find a Planeswalker and put it into your hand while also filling your graveyard for Muldrotha. Kaya's Ghostform can reanimate when the enchanted Planeswalker/creature dies or is exiled. Interplanar Beacon is more budget color fixing for Planeswalkers.
4 months ago
Your manabase seems pretty good, I don't think 6 taplands is too little, plus you have Ash Barrens to find the basics you need.
I think your deck could utilize the new Answered Prayers from Modern Horizons pretty well - you have a decent number of creatures and plenty of ways to recur it.
The Bogardan Dragonheart - Kaya's Ghostform - Ironclad Slayer / Monk Idealist package seems kind of interesting; I'm interested to see how that works out in practice, but initally it seems clunky/slow to me.
I think if you were to make room to add TortEx/Grave Scrabbler it would indeed dilute too much away from your initial strategy. Your deck currently lacks ways to fuel cards into the graveyard like typical TortEx builds like Commune with the Gods and Vessel of Nascency , which are outside of your deck's colors. Maybe if you switched to Abzan instead of Mardu it could work, but as of now it just seems kinda unrealistic.
6 months ago
Unnatural Predation is way too underpowered for this deck. Vessel of Nascency is also too slow. Woodweaver's Puzzleknot is too slow. I would recommend Giant Growth for pumping speed, Servant of the Conduit for energy, and Blossoming Defense for protection.
7 months ago
7 months ago
7 months ago
@SP3CTR3_chelts yeah I actually kind of missed playing him. I ran this sultai deck (with a red splash) when he was legal in standard. It was so much fun. It Prized Amalgam , Haunted Dead , and some graveyard enablers like Vessel of Nascency , Grapple with the Past , and Noose Constrictor .
It was pretty consistent at getting a Haunted Dead into the graveyard early, then pitching a Prized Amalgam or two to bring it back during my opponents upkeep, then in response to the ETB trigger on Haunted Dead sac it to Elder Deep-Fiend to tap all their lands down (triggering Sanctum of Ugin and Kozilek's Return when needed) leaving me with amalgams, a spirit, and elder deep-fiend and then repeating the process. Essentially time walking my opponent from turn 4 and on. I'll have to see if I can remember the deck list so I can show it to ya some time. It really was a blast to play.
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