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Visara the Dreadful
Legendary Creature — Gorgon
: Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated.
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Visara the Dreadful Discussion
2 weeks ago
Braids, Cabal Minion would be great since you have token fodder to play with.
Erebos, God of the Dead can helm a Zombie Token / Aristrocrats deck where you apply pressure to life totals without a means of recovery
God-Eternal Bontu as a serious draw engine, though she would be better in the +99
Lim-Dul the Necromancer because Lim-Dûl the Necromancer
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is a solid Lord, but doesn't help tokens
Razaketh, the Foulblooded if you want nearly unlimited tutors
Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon means you have two wincons: CD via a horde of zombies and infect in the air
Visara the Dreadful as literally a silver bullet
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician because he is solid and a nice balance between light removal and draw
1 month ago
"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .
One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?
Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors
Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance
Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace
Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification
Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite
1 month ago
Hey, good start, but with Liliana as Commander consider expanding on the sacrifice theme? Sacrifice strategies with aristocrats can be good and powerful, but you need to commit to them with many sac outlets to make the payoffs for sacing creatures worth it. Cards such as Liliana herself, Pawn of Ulamog , Sifter of Skulls , Grim Haruspex , etc. are payoffs for sacing creatures, but they're lackluster without sac support.
Cards that are within your deck's budget to consider adding for sacrifice strategy:
- Viscera Seer
- Yahenni, Undying Partisan
- Carrion Feeder
- Ashnod's Altar or Altar of Dementia : Dementia is better than Ashnods for the strategies here because it's a repeatable enabler to get creatures into your graveyard, but it's also more expensive price.
- Blood Artist
Reanimation is a fine secondary strategy to use consider also expanding on it:
- Cryptbreaker : repeatable way to discard cards and get value in return.
- Stinkweed Imp : dredge is a fast and repeatable way to get creatures into your graveyard.
- Golgari Thug
- Putrid Imp
- Liliana, Death's Majesty : enabler to get cards into your graveyard and reanimation.
- Living Death : mass reanimation and mass sacrifice.
- Command the Dreadhorde : mass reanimation using life which you have a lot of in Commander.
Other cards to consider adding:
- Crypt Ghast : mono black staple.
- Necropotence : mono black staple, less good when you have to discard unless you have a tons of cards in hand.
- Mutilate : powerful board wipe when playing lots of Swamps.
- Bubbling Muck
- Sign in Blood
- Gray Merchant of Asphodel : great payoff for playing mono black.
- Bloodgift Demon
- Reliquary Tower
- Hero's Downfall
Cards to consider cutting (no order):
- Raise Dead
- Sword-Point Diplomacy
- Dark Dabbling
- Bone Harvest
- Dead Reckoning
- Death Denied
- Liliana's Spoils
- Swarm of Bloodflies
- Drana, Liberator of Malakir
- Barrier of Bones : can be upgraded.
- Cadaver Imp : can be upgraded.
- Spellbook : can be upgraded.
- Indulgent Tormentor : can be upgraded.
- Mindwrack Demon : can be upgraded.
- Puppeteer Clique : can be upgraded.
- Wailing Ghoul : can be upgraded.
- Ever After : can be upgraded.
- Ulamog's Crusher : eight drop.
- Visara the Dreadful : seven drop.
- Butcher of Malakir : seven drop.
- Necromantic Selection : seven drop redundancy that you don't need.
- Harvester of Souls : six drop redundancy that you don't need.
- Sifter of Skulls : redundancy that you don't need.
1 month ago
DaringApprentice, thanks for the look! Glad you think it's cool. I haven't done much playtesting but all the pieces that are "supposed to" be in a deck are here so it should at the very least function. My Saskia deck certainly functioned but it had synergy and gas issues (and was a fair aggro deck anyway, putting it's power ceiling lower than I might like), which I think will be alleviated somewhat with Sisay.
If you have any cool suggestions I'd love to hear them but my list at the moment feels like the direction I want to go. I always take your suggestions to heart. Feels low on utility but I'm trying to have a bit of a toolbox-style deck like my (and most) Yisan, the Wanderer Bard deck (Fochlucan Lyrist -- (Yisan Elves)) so hopefully the effects on bodies keeps me in games. Not a lot of removal-legends except for like.. Visara the Dreadful , but it's all good. Maybe just make myself the threat and try to rebuild? Glad Sisay is 3 CMC and I'm ramping for fixing anyway. Balancing removal versus boardstate-growing is always tricky! Especially in five colors. Between all the card draw and reanimation stuff I have I hope I can grind out versus heavy removal. Sisay can always find OG Sisay who can find Urza's Blast and Yaegmoth's Offering which may be enough.
I wanted to run a shitload of 5-7-drop legends because they rock but I have a feeling curving out will be important. I also blew my budget so any expensive upgrades are many moons away :( We'll see if the deck needs beef at the top end or if all the synergy and buffs do the trick.
Some of my decks are built using almost entirely cards on hand and bulk-rares and some of my decks I make a big investment early. This deck is both! So excited. Bummed to see the foil price on Sisay, Weatherlight Captain but it's gotta be done! Preorder price this close to release for a foil commander probably won't drop from here. We'll see though--I'd pay $20 but I'm hoping to find cheaper.
5 months ago
Hey, so it looks like you have stuffed the deck with ways to tap down your commander, but you're only untapping during your untap step for the most part, you should look into more untap affects. You have Saddlebags, which works, but I would look to add a few more; Staff of Domination , Umbral Mantle , Thornbite Staff , Thousand-Year Elixir , Paradox Engine , also there's Maze of Ith and Thaumatic Compass Flip. Additionally, if you're going to be tapping and untapping creatures, creatures like Avatar of Woe and Visara the Dreadful , to get more value out of those untap affects. Also, take a look at some of the Crew costs. You are low on creatures, high on Vehicles. You'll always have access to King Macar, the Gold-Cursed , but there's no guarantee you'll have creatures with Power > 2 on the battlefield on in your hand so; Aradara Express , Ballista Charger , Bomat Bazaar Barge , Conqueror's Galleon Flip, Consulate Dreadnought , Demolition Stomper , Fell Flagship , Heart of Kiran , Irontread Crusher , Skysovereign, Consul Flagship , and Weatherlight , all are likely dead cards on the battlefield, unable to be crewed. Also, Magus of the Coffers will be high value as well, generating mass amounts of mana while also being able to untapped by untappers. You also might want to look into adding some more card draw, you have Greed , but perhaps Bloodgift Demon , Pain Seer , and Dark Tutelage are solid options. I know some of my suggestions are expensive, but I'm just trying to help optimize, and efficient untappers are going to be expensive because they're rarer.
9 months ago
Please forgive me if I'm being stupid, but I don't understand: Why is Progenitus at tier 3 and Karona, False God at tier 5? The way I see it, the best build of each deck is a combo deck that makes use of the commander's color identity and never plans to actually cast the commander. (Maybe there's some way to actually cast Progenitus with Dream Halls or something, but I'm really not seeing it.) In addition, I'm inclined to believe that merely having the 5-color identity probably means that the deck should be of a higher tier than say Visara the Dreadful, if the metric is 'best deck possible with that commander'. If you disqualify Karona's combo build from getting its tier because Scion of the Ur-Dragon does that job better, then I'd like to point out the sample Kefnet deck. It's a nice high tide deck, and Kefnet is legitimately used as a card draw outlet, but Jace VP just does that job better. Where do you draw the line?
9 months ago
This looks like fun! We have some suggestions on how to improve this deck, but we're not entirely sure what your budget is, so we'll keep ourselves to some low-budget suggestions for now (let us know if you'd like us to elaborate on more expensive stuff too):
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury seems like a really nice card considering your overall strategy; especially if you can find ways to reuse his ETB trigger.
- Harvester of Souls is an exceptionally strong draw engine in a deck like yours.
- Royal Assassin is an exceptional engine of death; makes everyone think twice about tapping their creatures.
- Avatar of Woe/Visara the Dreadful are both very strong, assassin-like creatures, that would do well in your deck, though they are expensive to cast (in some cases).
We were a bit surprised to see you're playing a mono-black kill/sac deck, but without any of the incredible instant-kill power on offer for such a deck. Some examples we would definitely add would be:
And as a side note, we would also recommend Dark Ritual, because it's just awesome ramp.
- Mutilate and Black Sun's Zenith are absolutely awesome kill spells. Now imagine you cast these while you have Grave Betrayal on the field; everything you kill instantly becomes yours :)
- Buried Alive is by far the best tutor you could wish for in this deck; especially with Sheoldred on the field.
- Victimize is wonderful, considering whatever you sacrificed can be retrieved with Sheoldred.
- Rise from the Grave is awesome considering your overall strategy.
- Animate Dead/Dance of the Dead are great cards, cheap to cast, and can target whatever graveyard you wish to get some creatures from.
- Black Market makes a lot of sense in a deck that focuses on killing the way this deck does.
- Underworld Connections is a card we always recommend when it comes to mono-black, because draw is important.
Well that's it for now. We hope these suggestions are of use to you. Please let us know if they're not. Good luck with the deck.
With kind regards,
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
10 months ago
Linthia of the Hypnotic Gaze
Legendary Creature - Gorgon 3/7
Creatures you control gain deathtouch.
Whenever a Gorgon creature or a Vraska Planeswalker you control destroys a permanent an opponent controls, return it to the battlefield under your control at the beginning of the next end step.
Her glare stays with you forever, even beyond the grave.
Of the 14 Gordon's in Magic, 9 of them have Deathtouch (or pseudo-deathtouch, like Infernal Medusa). Then there's also Visara the Dreadful, so I think Linthia works well with other gorgons. And if you don't have any others then it's just like Archetype of Finality+.
Anyway, my challenge is to make a pair of planeswalkers with partner that could be commanders, like the Kenriths.
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