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At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player puts the top X cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard, where X is the number of cards in his or her hand.
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Dreamborn Muse Discussion
1 week ago
Move Nezahal, Primal Tide to Draw. The draw makes him good more than anything... Like another Sphinx.
Glacial Chasm Count it as a land and take a land out. Downsides: Requires Muldrotha in play; Pricey Fog that requires players to run MLD or recurring land removal to answer; Probably not fun/healthy. Idk... I would play it competively, but you might regret having it in casuals.
Yavimaya Elder I bet you the is going to be annoying and he's 5 mana to run. Muldrotha is going to be under a lot of pressure to get things out when she's alive so he's by himself, really, and blue has good draw... so more baubles imo.
World Shaper If the gimmick isn't fun, out with him.
Ramunap Excavator I think Muldrotha covers both of these and only good if you hit the dinosaur or oracle.
- Perpetual Timepiece > Dreamborn Muse > Frantic Search. I would pick one. Probably the one that is worth and easy to cast with Muldrotha.
- Sultai Charm Versatile, but also conditional. I think we just wheel/loot into the removal we need.
So... we have enough cards that are good when Muldrotha is in play. Lets pretend she's dead (indefinitely)...
- Compulsive Research "Draw 2"
- Dark Bargain "Draw 2, lose 2 life"
- Birthing Pod < Sidisi, Undead Vizier < Final Parting cut two of these. Pod needs you to be creature based and to be built around... I think it interferes too much with the plan and is better with Elves and tokens. The latter two are close. Both want Muldrotha in play, but I think fetching Mimeoplasm or Ooze (or Dark Depths/Hexmage!) with Parting is stronger and less conditional. I love Sidisi though ;(
- Swan Song and/or Pact of Negation Negation is better if you have lots of counterspells or have to storm. If someone can tap your lands, gg. Sub in Voidmage Prodigy (same thing but reusable).
- Vedalken Orrery I don't think its worth when it doesn't interact with Muldrotha. You're running ramp and, again, not a lot of counterspells so you can just leave the mana open and spend it elsewhere instead of dumping into Orrery.
Also consider subbing more enchantment removal just to even the slots.
1 week ago
Deadbridge Chant is one of my favorite cards and I had it in here when I first built the deck but it never stuck around for more than the turn I cast it. I might find a spot for it but at the moment I don't think there are any cards in here that are less useful.
Dreamborn Muse is great and I put in Forgotten Creation which is similar but I ended up taking it out because in my playgroup if the card doesn't do something the turn it is cast or has an ability that can be activated at instant speed then it is very likely it will get removed before you get any use from it. Also muse can potentially help my opponents or make them hate me and target me more than usual.
I really appreciate you input on what to remove since that is always the hardest thing to decide when I get great suggestions.
Nyx Weaver is a card that is on the fence. I have him in currently because he is basically a draw 2 additional cards each turn but the main reason is that I can count him as an enchantment or creature for Muldrotha's ability.
Body Snatcher is part of the Hulk chain so he has to stay.
Aid from the Cowl is something I just added in but have not yet got to try it out. It seems promising since it will trigger at the end of the turn I cast it so I'm excited to see it play out and it costs less than Deadbridge Chant and doesn't rely on my graveyard. In my playgroup my yard usually gets exiled a few times each game so Cowl can still be an advantage without my yard.
Overeager Apprentice is an all star in a few of my other decks and I recently added him in here to see if he works out. I might remove him after some testing.
Other cards that I'm not 100% sure on are Spellskite and Mishra's Bauble. I may remove one to add in Tezzeret the Seeker since he can tutor any of the artifacts in the deck the turn he is cast (with the exception of Mindslaver).
Thanks for the comment! Don't for get to +1 if you like the deck!
1 week ago
Ancestral Knowledge powerful ability when you don't have to keep playing upkeep. Set library up for self-mill, help dig to what you need.
Deadbridge Chant - Self Mills 10 AKA Draws 10 and give you back stuff for free
Dreamborn Muse - Might as well read "at beginning of upkeep double your hand size"
I would remove: Nyx Weaver, Body Snatcher, Aid from the Cowl, or Overeager Apprentice
3 weeks ago
If you're aiming for this to be truly competitive, here are some suggestions.
Avenger of Zendikar, Kokusho, the Evening Star, Razaketh, the Foulblooded, and Verdant Force can all go for more immediate reanimation targets. If they weren't in here for reanimation, I'd take them out altogether. Some replacements could be Palinchron, Consecrated Sphinx, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Tidespout Tyrant, and Nullstone Gargoyle. These all have an immediate presence, and basically read "Your opponents can't win the game until I'm dealt with." These slots can be flexed based on meta and shit tho so take your pick. Avenger, Koko, and Verdant Force really don't do much until your next turn, so they can be either easily dealt with or at least prepared for before they come in swinging or start getting sac-ed for value. Razaketh is a more expensive Rune-Scarred Demon that requires another creature, as you're usually only going to need one tutor to win the game. Palinchron is a super good combo piece, sphinx will draw you at the very least two cards before sorcery speed removal is online, vorinclex will tap down at the very least 2-3 lands for targeted removal, and more for wipes. Tidespout can wipe out an entire color from someone's manabase if you play it right, and can do that the second after it hits the field, even in response to an immediate removal spell. Gargoyle is iffy, but can shut down some decks. This one's risky but amazing if you play around it correctly.
Hell's Caretaker and Zombify are sub-prime reanimation spells. Exhume is far and away a better replacement, despite not being a permanent and having a heavy downside. Necromancy is super good and you should definitely be running it. I'm not sure why Unearth is in here? It would be much better to devote this slot to ramp and use that ramp to then cast stuff from your graveyard with Muldrotha.
Dreamborn Muse and Traumatize. I know this will sound weird, but this scale of mill is simply not worth it. First off, they're both very expensively costed, and will most likely take up your turn. Second, drawing half your deck and tutoring for a combo piece basically have the same effect: you find your wincon; except that these mill spells don't guarantee it, and are clunky, inefficient, and expensive. Thirdly, even if you really feel the need to "draw" like thirty cards, you'll really only be able to play a couple of them before the game ends, so again its redundant and over the top. A better option would be something like intuition, which will mill only the cards you want, without being over the top. Sultai Ascendancy is decent, and I have no qualms with putting it in, but Search for Azcanta Flip is much much better, and even something like Monastery Siege has the same type of filtering effects but with more flexibility and less mana requirement. Overall, I like to stick to cards like Careful Study and Winds of Rebuke over just straight up milling effects, as they prioritize giving you options and flexibility over shear milling quantity.
Disciple of Bolas. There are better sac outlets.
River Kelpie is kind of on the same path as Traumatize: its just too much. Yeah, if you're super greedy you can devote a turn to playing this and maybe draw a shit ton of cards from it over the next few turns, but it really is just a win more spell. The whole point of this deck is to have the stuff you're re casting be good enough that it can win you the game right away, without the need to draw extra cards. If this is in here to find those good cards, there are better filtering and tutor options.
Gitrog is juicy, but not competitive. It's expensive, and doesn't really provide that much immediate value. It's really sick tho.
Worldly Tutor is much worse than Mystical Tutor or Vampiric Tutor here. Searching for a Tooth and Nail and then winning is much better than searching for a part of your combo. It's a really good card tho so keep it in if you find a good slot.
Sylvan Awakening I'm guessing is part of some combo I don't quite understand, but otherwise isn't really that great. Even if you had like 10 lands on the battlefield, it still wouldn't make a dent in your opponents' collective life total.
World Shaper and Ramunap/Crucible are good, don't get me wrong. However, they add, as I've said before, lots of redundancy. With your current deck, will you winning the game really depend on if you play 3 strip mines in one turn versus 2? Crack 3 fetches instead of 2? Again don't get me wrong, these are good cards, and if you make the deck almost completely devoted to a "lands matter" archetype, they are staples, but if you're aiming to get your commander out during most games, they'll just get in the way and provide you with unnecessary, excessive land drops. Now, World Shaper does ramp you and mill you, so it is flexible, but it is slow and expensive, and could still probably be replaced by something better.
Kodama's Reach, Cultivate, Awakening Zone, and Chromatic Lantern are great for fixing/ramp, but are just too damn slow. What you really need for ramping is Mana Crypt, signets or dorks(your choice, but i'd select either artifacts or creatures and role with it), Mind Stone, Mox Diamond, Lion's Eye Diamond, Lotus Petal, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, azusa, Grim Monolith, and Deathrite Shaman. These are all great options, take your pick.
Just some things I think you should consider: Protean Hulk and Defense of the Heart are good combo enablers, Pernicious Deed is a recurrable boardwipe, shriekmaw is cheap recurrable removal, Mystic Remora is really cheap card draw that becomes even better w/ muldrotha on the field, Greater Good draws you some cards but more importantly fills your graveyard, Contamination can shut down your opponents and is easy to keep up w/ muldrotha on board, and Command Beacon is a must have with a six mana commander, not to mention you can replay it when muldrotha is out.
Overall you really just need to make your ramp package better. Also, if you want to make this deck more combo-y, just take out everything that produces long term value and replace it with counters and removal.
1 month ago
Thanks JuQ for your ideas. Definitetly gonna include some of your suggestions (b.c. they are all "budget"), but i am not quite sure what i should cut for those! I was thinking about cutting Champion of Stray Souls due to too high cmc, Dreamborn Muse because she will trigger Sidisi just once (only if Undead Alchemist is in play but he is good enough on his own). Next cut could be Filth cause Swampwalk is not as effective as other abilities. Maybe Kheru Lich Lord as well (high cmc and rng). Ramunap Excavator for The Gitrog Monster. I could cut Tasigur, the Golden Fang, he is just not as good as i thought he would be. If you have any thoughts about whatelse i could cut here let me know :)
3 months ago
I think the deck is missfocused, some of your cards cards that want you to have a big graveyard, and other cards that eat your graveyard away, those two mechanics don't work well together, on the other hand your commander want's to keep your graveyard small so your oppnent have fewer options to choose a bad card.
You can consider changing your commander to someone who benefits more from dredging (or at least is not hindered by dredging) like Meren of Clan Nel Toth, Karador, Ghost Chieftain, The Gitrog Monster, The Mimeoplasm or some other, or change the strategy of the deck to use your graveyard as an spendable resource (Delve, Unearth, Scavenge, Flashback, Aftermath, Embalm, Eternalize...).
Maybe instead of so much Dredge you can use some global milling because some of your cards also care about your opponents graveyards some good options are Shared Trauma, Dread Summons, Mesmeric Orb, Dreamborn Muse or Consuming Aberration. If you go this way dont forget to include some graveyard hate (like Scavenging Ooze, Necrogenesis, Night Soil, Bojuka Bog or Nihil Spellbomb) because it's likely some oponent is using the graveyard and you will eventually cast your Living Death.
jjp16 on Phenax Mill
3 months ago
Increasing Confusion can be a nice choice sometimes with the flashback
You could also try putting in a reanimator package and have some nice targets to access if you mill yourself.
3 months ago
Mind Funeral could also be a good option