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Raging Ravine enters the battlefield tapped.
: Gain or .
: Until end of turn, Raging Ravine becomes a 3/3 red and green Elemental creature with "Whenever this creature attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on it." It's still a land.
Raging Ravine Discussion
1 month ago
Fauna Shaman Hydra Broodmaster Flametongue Kavu Skyshroud Poacher Tireless Tracker Scavenging Ooze Manglehorn Harbinger of the Hunt Wolfbriar Elemental Huntmaster of the Fells Flip Yisan, the Wanderer Bard Gruul Spellbreaker Budoka Gardener Scryb Ranger Ulvenwald Tracker Quirion Ranger Ruric Thar, the Unbowed Buried Ruin Gruul Turf Kazandu Refuge Rugged Highlands Mountain Valley 2x Mountain 2x Forest
Dualcaster Mage Llanowar Empath Genesis Hydra Yeva, Nature's Herald Decimator of the Provinces Siege Behemoth Magus of the Library Brutalizer Exarch Duplicant Greenwarden of Murasa Loaming Shaman Golden Guardian Flip Burnished Hart Wood Elves Gaea's Herald Frontier Guide Diligent Farmhand Contested Cliffs Endless Sands Ghost Quarter Mystifying Maze Fungal Reaches Sheltered Thicket Raging Ravine Game Trail Memorial to Unity
My first update is focused on fine-tuning the deck a bit and getting rid of some of the obvious misfits with some needed staples and just new cards I thought would work. I decided to go all-in on the quick beatdown plan, so I added in some low-curve mana producers like Wood Elves, Magus of the Library, Frontier Guide, and Burnished Hart along with some heavy beaters and game-enders like Decimator of the Provinces and Siege Behemoth. I also added a bit more tutoring power with cards like Genesis Hydra and Brutalizer Exarch. I removed a bit of the Elf tribal suite because while it may be good in the early game, it won’t matter much if you get something like Skyshroud Poacher later in the game. I added Yeva, Nature’s Herald because having flash is crucial for a deck like this to really succeed—surprise allows you to dodge removal and play conservatively instead of walking into spot removal and board wipes. Speaking of flash, I can’t believe I didn’t consider Dualcaster Mage before—you may not be able to cast your own instants and sorceries, but Nikya doesn’t say anything about not letting you take other people’s! Golden Guardian I think is an excellent card in this deck—not only does it die easily to most of your powerful creatures, including your commander, but it transforms instantly into a land to boost your mana AND that pumps out Golems every turn with the extra mana you have left over. Finally, I also beefed up the land suite a bit to include some more utility lands—one thing I’ve realized is that the lands in this deck will have to carry some of the extra weight of you not playing spells. Contested Cliffs gives you access to extra removal, as many of this deck’s most powerful creatures are Beasts. Fungal Reaches lets you store extra Nikya mana for a big burst later on. Endless Sands is more insurance against removal and board wipes. And Mystifying Maze provides the deck with some much-needed defensive capability, once again helped by all that extra mana.
Something I’m struggling with is how much to focus on my beatdown plan versus an anti-control or combo plan. As it stands, this deck is well tuned for the beats but is weak against non-interactive strategies like storm or blink decks. Cards like Ruric Thar, Immolation Shaman, and Harsh Mentor would definitely put a crimp in their plans and stop them from going off, but they don’t really help toward Nikya’s goals much. Other cards like Runic Armasaur that are designed for the long game don’t seem at home in this specific version of the deck—I could see an alternate build though designed more with control in mind than beatdown. You’ll notice I’ve added a large Maybeboard of cards I want to include, but just can’t find space for.
2 months ago
<table> <caption><h4>Stock List</h4></caption> <tr> <td width="200" align=“left”><font color=#EDD9B4>Land (24)</font></td> <td width="200" align=“left”><font color=#EDD9B4>Removal (10)</font></td> <td width="200" align=“left”><font color=#EDD9B4>Sideboard (15)</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td>4x [[card:Blackcleave Cliffs]]</td><td>3x [[card:Assassins trophy]]</td><td>2x [[card:Ancient Grudge]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Blood Crypt (RTR)]]</td><td>2x [[card:Fatal Push]]</td><td>1x [[card:collective brutality]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3x [[card:Bloodstained Mire (KTK)]]</td><td>2x [[card:Kolaghan's Command (DTK)]]</td><td>1x [[card:damnation]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2x [[card:Forest]]</td><td>4x [[card:Lightning Bolt]]</td><td>1x [[card:engineered explosives (MMA)]] </td> </tr> <tr> <td>2x [[card:Overgrown Tomb (RTR)]]</td><td><font color=#EDD9B4>Creatures (15)</font></td><td>3x [[card:fulminator mage]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3x [[card:Raging Ravine]]</td><td>4x [[card:bloodbraid elf]]</td><td>1x [[card:grafdiggers cage]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Stomping Ground (GTC)]]</td><td>3x [[card:Dark confidant]]</td><td>1x [[card:grim lavamancer]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2x [[card:Swamp]]</td><td>3x [[card:scavenging ooze]]</td><td>1x [[card:kitchen finks]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Twilight Mire (A25)]]</td><td>4x [[card:tarmogoyf]]</td><td>1x [[card:liliana the last hope]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4x [[card:Verdant Catacombs (MM3)]] </td><td><font color=#EDD9B4>Disruption (10)</font></td><td>2x [[card:nihil spellbomb]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Wooded Foothills (KTK)]]</td><td>4x [[card:Inquisition of Kozilek]]</td><td>1x [[card:thoughtseize]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td><td>4x [[card:Liliana of the veil]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td><td>2x [[card:Thoughtseize]]</td> </tr> </table>
2 months ago
Ok--So here are a couple suggestions on lands--staples--if you will, that I include with this style deck/commander etc that I mentioned briefly above.
Fetchlands are great with Omnath and all of your creatures with Landfall like Avenger of Zendikar More the merrier. Some of the fetches have been reprinted, some haven't. So depending on the one you want, there could be a wide range in price. There are Budget equivalents like Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse and Mountain Valley there's a couple others too. These traditionally aren't as good because they only get Basic lands and they come into play tapped. However, they get the job done on Landfall triggers should you need an option while you're waiting to upgrade to that Wooded Foothills this one, luckily, has been reprinted in Khans block I believe. It wouldn't be a bad idea to look at a few others while we were at it though. Windswept Heath might be good Blighted Woodland and Naya Panorama better or cheaper options for sure.
Color Balance: Nothing sucks more than drawing a bunch of one color mana--so lets even it out some with lands that tap for either color.
Rootbound Crag , Stomping Ground , Reflecting Pool , Command Tower , Raging Ravine Utility Lands: Maximize your land. Make it work for you.
Kessig Wolf Run , Rogue's Passage , Thespian's Stage , Miren, the Moaning Well , Temple of the False God , Skarrg, the Rage Pits
There are others--Tribal specific that are good-- Contested Cliffs for example would be good if you had more beasts or Primal Beyond if you had more Elementals.
Now-- I had thought about it some more since I commented earlier today and I have a few more suggestions. I'm just going to suggest the cards, I won't offer cuts at this time, because I'm not looking to change your deck completely, just give you some thoughts if you were wanting to tap into your Commander more or just be cool fun R/G beats deck etc. I'll leave that up to you. Happy to help in any way though.
Synergy: There are a few other cards that would work well with Omnath and I'll list here.
Solemn Simulacrum The Lonely Robot draws a card and gets you a land = Landfall trigger/ramp.
Scapeshift Cast this when you have Omnath and it could be awesome. Cast it with Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle in play, and thats a lot of damage. Prismatic Omen Doesn't care what land you get--just saying.
Craterhoof Behemoth takes all those shiney new Elementals and/or Plant tokens from Avenger of Zendikar and makes them Big stompy.
Warstorm Surge I'll just leave this here.
Skyshroud Claim Yeah, in play.
About this one particular card:
Burst Lightning Ok, I do think you should probably swap this card with something that straight kills something gives you a little more versatility. Perhaps something like Atarka's Command or Decimate or Skullcrack or Beast Within or Banefire
Other EDH Staples and Protection:
Chord of Calling
Some other cards to save towards I guess.
I hope this helps. I rambled.
2 months ago
Here's something I've been toying with for a while:
1x Hazoret the Fervent
1x Nylea, God of the Hunt
1x Purphoros, God of the Forge
1x Rhonas the Indomitable
4x Ripjaw Raptor
4x Sakura-Tribe Elder
4x Snapping Sailback
1x Xenagos, God of Revels
3 months ago
Some cards of possible interest that shouldn't break the bank:
Fungal Plots Dead bodies can spawn you new bodies to keep attacking and generating more mana.
Hammer of Purphoros Haste is good and extra lands become attackers if needed.
Artifact Mutation Turn their artifacts into your attackers.
Fanning the Flames Something to do with all of that mana.
Overgrown Armasaur can produce more bodies to generate more attack mana. Thundering Spineback is a mana sink that makes more bodies and Forerunner of the Empire will fetch either or Ghalta plus ding the Armasaur to make a saproling. There may be other dinos that fit in here and most aren't expensive.
Inferno Titan has a firebreathing mana sink plus can help clear the way so all of your attackers actually connect more often. Warmonger Hellkite is even less expensive to buy and gives your whole team firebreathing. You have to attack every turn but you should be wanting to do that anyway.
Gruul Guildgate and Gruul Turf are dirt cheap. Sheltered Thicket is a budget dual that Wood Elves can go fetch. Cinder Glade does the same but might be just over what you're looking to spend. Raging Ravine might also be right at that budget line but produces both your colors early and attacks when you have the mana mid to late, getting bigger each attack. Myriad Landscape , Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse can fetch the appropriate color, thin your deck and create a shuffle effect if needed.
If you happen to have Heroic Intervention I would recommend adding it but it is definitely more than what you've indicated your budget per card is.
3 months ago
Rakdont thanks for the comment!
Raging Ravine is sort of a relic from Kiki-Chord, where it did good work for me. I disagree that this deck can't take advantage of the extra clock when the game stalls; the deck is loaded with small-medium creatures that are getting in chip damage over the course of the game (Noble helps a lot there), plus some legitimate attackers like Resto and Shalai. My theory was that it was close to a free-roll, having just 2 / 22 taplands in colors that could use the fixing anyways probably wouldn't hurt the mana much, but you definitely might be right that the cost isn't worth the benefit. Other stuff I was considering there were Fastlands or Filterlands ( Fire-Lit Thicket ), or possibly Horizon Canopy .
Dryad Arbor is really interesting, and having 1 summoning sick land wouldn't be a big issue if the payoff is there. The only issue is that the payoff currently isn't there; the deck doesn't really have anything good at CMC 1 to search for off of Arbor. I could definitely add a 1-drop for that, but I don't know what it would be. Any ideas?
5 months ago
Honestly, I'd run a single basic Mountain and another Stomping Ground and take out two Forests. More reliable red sources would be beneficial. Perhaps a Raging Ravine or two would be worth it, as it adds to the counter synergy. I realize this conflicts with Magus of the Moon a little bit, but I think it would be worth it overall.
5 months ago
Ok, so here's what I'm thinking for this deck. Option 1: Go for a typical burn deck. Red with a splash of white. This is a well-established deck in the metagame, and you can look up a decklist online. You would run Goblin Guide, Monastery Swiftspear, Lava Spike, Searing Blaze, etc. in addition to the burn spells you've already got here. Some people run Vexing Devil in place of Goblin Guide, which I personally think is a good move.
Option 2: Green-red aggro. More creature-oriented, this would be a little slower than burn but also more resilient and heavy-hitting. The idea one guy I played against had is that Pelt Collector is an excellent 1-drop that combos with a few key creatures. If you play turn 1 Pelt Collector then turn 2 Vexing Devil, and your opponent pays life to sacrifice the devil, then Pelt Collector winds up with 2 +1/+1 counters on it. Same with Ball Lightning and Groundbreaker. In addition, Bloodbraid Elf cascades into basically any of these, and you have the colors to run Atarka's Command which is a strictly better Skullcrack. The mana base can be a little shaky with 3 red for Ball Lightning and 3 green for Groundbreaker if you do both, so I'd run a minimum of 4 Stomping Ground and 4 Wooded Foothills, probably at least 2 Copperline Gorge, and then maybe 1 or 2 Raging Ravine. The guy I played against also ran Domri Rade, which could help when you run out of cards in hand. I ended up winning the match on the back of Vampire Hexmage in my mono-black midrange brew, so having a way to deal with first-strikers might be important since humans typically runs Thalia, Guardian of Thraben.
Option 3: Go for some form of midrange build, possibly in Naya colors. I'd have to do some research to figure out what this would look like, as I generally just haven't seen Naya colors played at all. Usually at this point people just play Jund colors since black tends to give then access to better cards than white. But it would be cool to see what white can do.
Raging Ravine occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.08%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%