Raging Ravine enters the battlefield tapped.
: Gain or .
: Until end of turn, Raging Ravine becomes a 3/3 red and green Elemental creature with "Whenever this creature attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on it." It's still a land.
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Raging Ravine Discussion
6 days ago
I have given some thought to what Zendikar Rising provides!
Personally, I do not feel enamored with Turntimber Symbiosis at the moment. That feeling may change, but this card seems like it will hurt big-time if it whiffs. Of course, the odds are against that happening, but this is Magic the Gathering and those kinds of shenanigans happen. In comparison, Summoning Trap, at instant-speed, can absorb a potential whiff more easily when cast at the end of an opponent's turn than watching helplessly as went up in smoke during our main phase. On the other side of the card, we have a Forest that enters the battlefield tapped unless we pay three life. Paying three life is not inordinately burdensome in our format, but for just ? Spidey senses are tingling all over the place, and I sense this card may be more harmful than beneficial in the deck. Let me know how Turntimber Symbiosis functions for you.
Bala Ged Recovery: I don't feel excited about this card. If the land entered the battlefield untapped it would receive more praise, naturally. This is a slightly over-costed Regrowth with the option of putting a land into play tapped. Honestly, I feel "meh" about this card. I don't plan on play-testing it or adding it at the moment. I prefer lands that don't enter the battlefield tapped, and printing a more expensive Regrowth on the other side of this card is not alluring enough for me to consider including it in the deck.
Of the cards you mentioned, I believe Moraug, Fury of Akoum provides the greatest power and synergy with our deck. This minotaur's inclusion seems inevitable for a Xenagos, God of Revels deck and motivates me to include Fabled Passage, Prismatic Vista and Wooded Foothills in order to increase the potential number of accrued combat phases in a turn. I envision having a biggun or two under our control, casting Moraug, Fury of Akoum and then playing a land. Perhaps it is one of the aforementioned lands, granting us with TWO additional combat phases. In this scenario and with Xenagos, God of Revels under our control, our creatures can REALLY get out of hand if we can drop a land or two. Although it currently is not in the deck, I am tempted to imagine how a Genesis Waved Moraug, Fury of Akoum develops. At worst, Moraug, Fury of Akoum is a monster that can whittle away opponents' creatures through combat. I definitely want to test this card!
Here are some cards I am either interested in testing or their inclusion is inevitable:
INEVITABLE: Cragcrown Pathway. Once a copy of this land becomes available, it will find its way into this deck and most likely replace a basic land.
INTERESTED: Inscription of Abundance is intriguing. At just , the options of gaining life equal to the power of one of our creatures OR having one of our creatures enter Fight Club are really versatile. Additionally, kicking this spell for just seems very reasonably costed, and we can choose both of the previously discussed options and put two +1 +1 counters on a creature. The entirety of those modes seem more valuable than . I also enjoy the potential political motivation of this card, as the +1 +1 counters and the life gain, respectively, denote "target creature" and "target player," not "target creature you control" and "you." I'll be taking a long look at Inscription of Abundance. It seems too good not to.
D'OH! If only Cragplate Baloth had trample!!
INTERESTED: I think Shatterskull Charger may be worth a look. Not kicking this creature brings it back to our hand at the beginning of our end step. With Xenagos, God of Revels under our control, paying and attacking with an 8/7 hasty trampler that is safe from sorcery removal seems strong. This reminds me of the dash mechanic. I think it is worth play-testing.
INEVITABLE: Lithoform Engine is an absolute powerhouse. I'm still in awe that this card was created. Seriously. I think consideration should be given to including this card in every EDH/Commander deck, right after Sol Ring. I do not exaggerate. Not only is Lithoform Engine the most powerful card in Zendikar Rising, it will be the next most-desired staple of the format. This is over-powered. This is beyond over-powered:
, Tap Lithoform Engine: Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy. This is a personalized version of Reverberate or Twincast, and only costs . Think: Selvala's Stampede, Chandra's Ignition, Return of the Wildspeaker, Savage Beating, Summoning Trap, Skyshroud Claim.
, Tap Lithoform Engine: Copy target permanent spell you control. SERIOIUSLY!??
At the time of this reply, Lithoform Engine is, justifiably, the most expensive card in Zendikar Rising (aside from Box Toppers) and I predict it will be THE CHASE CARD of Zendikar Rising. I also believe that this set will be printed/opened into absolute oblivion due to the presence of the aforementioned Box Toppers and its tenure in Standard for the next two years. As a result, I plan to watch for potential price variations in Lithoform Engine and then accumulate as many as possible. This card is too good.
INTERESTED: There may be some mid- to late-game benefits to including Crawling Barrens in the land base. It seems like a decent mana-sink at instant-speed. Actually, I am surprised that this card did not include the dreaded "only at any time you can cast a sorcery" text. As an added value, we choose when to make Crawling Barrens a creature. As another benefit, it's only a creature until the end of the turn. This versatility is valuable to us and maddening to our opponents. All of these benefits reside ON A LAND. If Raging Ravine occupies a slot in the land base, I think there may be a place for Crawling Barrens as well.
At the moment, those are the cards that promote the greatest amount of fancy-tickling for me. I'm looking forward to Zendikar Rising and can't wait to crack them packs and feast on the goodies inside!
1 month ago
If you're going to go into wet jund with four colors, I think you should probably add some more blue cards than just Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, like Snapcaster Mage or Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip. The manabase still looks a little iffy, cutting Raging Ravine and a few of the fast lands for more shocks would def help consistency, although either way you're screwed if they land a Blood Moon.
1 month ago
I also run a Xenagos deck! Lol, what are the chances! I will try to keep cards under $15 per your suggestion....
Greater Good - BEST card you will ever add, if you listen to ANYTHING I say, this is it. Period.
Lurking Predators - With 1/3rd of your deck as creatures, this is like a sunbirds invocation that does something even if you pass the turn! Highly recomended!
Rancor - Nice to have, makes a 1/1 into a 6/4 trample with Xenagos. Providing trample cheaply and repeatedly is nice
The Great Henge - A bit over budget, but nice to have. Card draw, lifegain and ramp all in 1, usually for .
Gruul Signet - Nothing flashy, but another 2 mana ramp to help bring Xenagos out T3-4
Lifecrafter's Bestiary - Scry and card draw, not bad, definitely worth considering to help maintain gas
Decimate - 4 cards for 1? yes please! Can also target Xenagos if no other enchantments since he's indestructible.
Hull Breach - Mini decimate, still good!
Life's Legacy - Very useful, sometimes it sucks sacrificing a beater, but its sometimes very very needed, especially if you know they are holding up removal, they cant cast it in response since saccing is additional cost to cast
Nature's Lore - Ramp on T2 that can search up duals and brings the land untapped
Rishkar's Expertise - I rarely advise for risky cards, but the positive far outweighs the negative. Your biggest issue in this deck is getting 2 for 1ed, when you cast a draw/enchantment spell on your creature, they can remove it in response so you lose 2 cards to their one. But the potential of drawing 8 plus cards and casting a spell for free helps with this deck lack of tempo and card draw. I think it fits quite well
Skyshroud Claim - Nature's lore x2. While not necessary, can be helpful in keeping some tempo and ramp is crucial in a big beaters deck.
Berserk - A better unleash fury that can on occasionally kill opposing creatures when needed
Momentous Fall - Used in response to removal, removal can't be used in response to cast on the same creature
Return of the Wildspeaker - Used in response to removal
Lands...Obviously none of these are needed, but they make the deck slightly better are relatively cheap. Worth the investment, IMO. You have lots of room in your landbase given you are playing green and already run an ok amount of ramp. Adding even more ramp will really make your utility lands shine.
Dread Statuary - Manlands are helpful as they can be used for draw spells (see above instants/sorcerries) and can be equipped with rancor to deal damage unexpectedly.
Castle Garenbrig - Need that extra mana for that creature? I got you covered
Bonders' Enclave - Decent card draw
Blighted Woodland - Ramp
Myriad Landscape - See above
Raging Ravine - Manland
Sheltered Thicket - Least important of all lands, but nice to draw late game and can be fetched with nature's lore, farseek, skyshroud (although it will come in tapped)
Kessig Wolf Run - Has helped me win here and there. Shouldn't be overlooked, nice to have like the rest of these
Atarka, World Render - 12/12 double strike trample flying w/ Xenagos! Too good to pass up
Balefire Dragon - Deals with token decks and can clear a board while dealing heavy damage
Carnage Tyrant - HEXPROOF. I cannot tell you how many times hexproof has saved me in this deck. They cant use their removal they've been holding up, they can't counter it, and it has trample. Stats leave something to be desired a bit, but can pack a punch with Xenagos and is safe to use Rishkar's expertise on
Elder Gargaroth - New card which fuels card draw and has vigilance too!
Fierce Empath - Nice to find the beater you need
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma - Ramp and provide trample!
Eternal Witness - Nice recursion of a beater or draw spell
Ilharg, the Raze-Boar - A beater that returns itself eventually and helps bring in other beaters (note: ETB triggers and the creature can attack a different opponent). Like a mini sneak attack
Inferno Titan - ETB and attack trigger. Not bad, I find it useful although you might not despite it being better than a lot of your other cards.
Kogla, the Titan Ape - ETB and attack trigger. Can be nice to bounce an eternal witness to give it indestructible.
Lifeblood Hydra - Even if they kill it, you get to draw something. I've found it useful, especially with berserk.
Nylea, Keen-Eyed - Helps make your creatures easier to cast, hard to remove, and helps you maintain gas. I'm still not convinced with it, testing it in my own build TBH. But thought it worthwhile to mention.
Pathbreaker Ibex - A beater that provides trample to other beaters. Puts in some decent work, especially with a rancor!
Reclamation Sage - Cheap artifact/enchantment removal on a creature (ex: lurking predators)
Sakura-Tribe Elder - Another cheap 2CMC ramp spell to ensure Xenagos T3-4
Savage Ventmaw - HUGE TEMPO! Attack and cast Rishkar's expertise or the Great Henge and then return of the wildspeaker/momentous fall/life's legacy or anything else is huge. Getting the attack and tempo in is VERY helpful as our deck struggles with tempo putting all the mana into a big creature.
Shaman of Forgotten Ways - Ramp and an alternate wincon should you need it
Siege Behemoth > Thorn Elemental
OVERALL: The deck is ok. I'm surprised how it has such a low CMC, but given your X spells. Once you replace those with 5+ CMC creatures, it will increase your AVG CMC to "normal". You want your AVG CMC to be around 4. Xenagos works as a sniper, you cast one big creature, give it haste and hope it doesnt eat removal. Given you spent all that mana on the creature, you don't do much else for the turn and then people usually swing at you because they are afraid of you casting another big creature out of nowhere.
As a result, having protection for them is crucial. In the form of heroic intervention, or another card out of budget such as Deflecting swat (which is SO powerful, counter counterspells, redirect targetted removal, targetted draw, targetted extra turns and more FOR FREE, so you can BLUFF INTERACTION). One more idea I'm thinking of is to replace Giant growth with Vines of Vastwood, similar function but provides protection as well. Also see Blossoming Defense for a similar function should removal/interaction is an issue in your meta as much as mine. Given you play against combo, they probably have interaction prior to them assembling their combo.
I got lots of ideas for cuts, so be sure to lmk what you think of each suggestion!
1 month ago
Blue is the key interaction color, black is good too, but green is effectively a mandated color. Loam is the best grindy value engine, and effectively says "permanents" instead of lands in this format. On it's own that is op, dredge makes it beyond busted. Scapeshift is a strong wincon too, but manlands, Field of the Dead, and Dark Depths/Thespian Stage all work.
Remember unlike legacy where that's a 1 hit win, in this format it does take two hits. I enjoy Awakening of Vitu-Ghazi, but I enjoy it because it can hit hard on end-steps and just has the haste value. Against Field of Ruin you can toss it on a basic, but putting it on a Lumbering Falls or Raging Ravine, maybe even a Celestial Colonnade, so if you activate them they get really buff.
Secure the Wastes, Sylvan Awakening, Finale of Glory, etc. Can win as well, trust that a lot of decks have numerous wincons they can run, and while when entering the game without creatures it seems hard, its certainly not impossible. The goal is to build around the card advantage of the game.
Life from the Loam is overpowered because of this, and the fact countering it doesn't stop the engine. There aren't a ton of these type of card advantage engines without most permanent types, and that's why the few we have are valuable, and while Ponder, Brainstorm, Preordain give card selection, advantage is hugely in need, so when looking through what you want, here are the following pieces of card advantage:
Hymn to Tourach and Gerrard's Verdict both are cheap ways to grind out value by 2 for 1ing an opponent from cards, it's no engine, but it functions well to disrupt whatever your opponent has going on. Be scared of Misdirection or Divert as they can blowout this style of card advantage, and are highly valuable pieces of "anti-interaction", but even a Veil of Summer can be a seriously bad turn for this card.
Sorry, started writing this I need to follow up later, hope this gives a brief intro!
2 months ago
Cool deck! You might like these: Animist's Awakening, Kamahl's Druidic Vow, Traverse the Outlands, Squandered Resources, Lotus Cobra, Stone-Seeder Hierophant, Shared Summons, Alhammarret's Archive, Memorial to Unity, Memorial to Folly, Embodiment of Fury, Embodiment of Insight, Hissing Quagmire, Lavaclaw Reaches, Raging Ravine, Waker of the Wilds (strongly recommend this last one. once Om is out, you can pay to pop a land, dealing 3 damage and creating a bigger elemental)
3 months ago
Playing lands like Raging Ravine might benefit you. If it dies, it triggers Omnath. Then you can play it from the graveyard via your Ramunap Excavator or Crucible of Worlds. Wakeroot Elemental? Liege of the Tangle? War Elemental? Vastwood Zendikon? Koth of the Hammer looks interesting.
3 months ago
Your average converted mana cost is low enough to go to 33 or 34 if you had mana dorks.
- Holdout Settlement and Survivors' Encampment are just Springleaf Drum on lands. These are reasonable, depending on how hard your game plans need Kalamax or not.
- Rashmi, Eternities Crafter: Rashmi is incremental advantage. You and both know that you are going to play cards on other people’s turns, so why not get free stuff for doing so? Wavebreak Hippocamp does the same thing if you want more of this effect.
- Birds of Paradise, Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, Arbor Elf, Priest of Titania, Rattleclaw Mystic. I prefer creature-based ramp if I’m playing . Most of these cards will Pod into Corridor Monitor, Deceiver Exarch, and Pestermite.
- Spellseeker: Spellseeker grabs most of the instants and sorceries in your deck and more food for Prime Speaker
- Torrential Gearhulk: Snapcaster Mage #2 aka Fatcaster mage. The 5/6 body is nice for when games go longer than expected.
- Thing in the Ice
Flip: I noticed that you don’t have ways to protect yourself. If played earlier, you can flip Thing in the Ice and reset that battlefield. It was dumb in other formats, it’s dumb in EDH as well.
- Niv-Mizzet, Parun: End-game beater and a storm card. Not necessary but strong.
- Creature Tutors: Finale of Devastation, Eldritch Evolution, and Neoform. More tutors for consistency.
Instants and Sorceries
- Reality Shift and Rapid Hybridization: Good removal outside of and . Do you really care about a 3/3 beast or a 2/2 manifest token? I don’t……
- Manamorphose: Just a good cantrip in Temur.
- Swan Song: Another good counter spell, but you have that covered pretty well. Once again, no one cares about one 2/2 bird….no one…
- Reiterate: Goes infinite with Turnabout and Dramatic Reversal and or more mana. However, I think Isochron Scepter is just better if infinite mana is the goal.
- Nature's Lore: This is only and grabs any forest onto the battlefield. Most of the time, you are going to tutor for Forest, so why not grab Breeding Pool instead?
- Raging Ravine: Ok, it has your colors. Are you ever going to activate this man-land? Also, it comes in tapped. Gross….
- Arch of Orazca: I think Arch is better in decks that lack access to card draw. You’re in . Drawing cards, most of the time, is not going to be a problem for you.
- Frilled Mystic and Mystic Snake: I’ve fallen for this trap too. I don’t want to pay for a counterspell on a weak 2/2 body. Compare these two cards to other mana spells like Cryptic Command. This cards counters, protects, and draws cards. I prefer utility creatures with more flexibility.
4 months ago
Good call on the basics and on Raging Ravine. I'll be sure to toss 'em in.