Dimir Signet

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ulticam on Varina Zombos

20 hours ago

Here are some suggestions:

You would probably benefit the most from a better ramp-package. Since you don't want to bother buying expensive lands, I'd recommend signets (which are really good for fixing colors) and talismans: Orzhov Signet , Azorius Signet , Dimir Signet , Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Dominance , Talisman of Hierarchy , & Smothering Tithe has powerful potential as well.

Ponder and Preordain are extremely powerful in helping you fix colors in the early game. They allow you to dig for the right lands. They're also good at any point in a game. Gitaxian Probe is easy to cast (at basically no cost) since you gain life.

Speaking of life-gain, you have some good ways to gain but no payoffs for it. Alhammarret's Archive seems to combo well with your general. Other ones that come to mind are Graveborn Muse , Greed , and Necropotence

I'd cut Crush Dissent and No Escape for cheaper counterspells. Lower CMC instants give you more opportunities to use them. Swan Song is BROKEN. Counterspell is good. Dispel is amazing but only if you feel your meta is threatening you with counter magic of their own. Muddle the Mixture and Narset's Reversal are unreal. Sometimes you'll misplay them though - they require some experience.

I'd cut Spark Harvest for Swords to Plowshares . Exiling is better than killing (avoids indestructibility), and you can even use swords on yourself if you need life in a pinch.

Diabolic Tutor and Long-Term Plans are cheap to buy. Tutors are necessary in control if you want to effectively answer your opponent's threats.

Dig Through Time might be nice for you, but I can't say for sure. And since you told me you were concerned of decking yourself: Elixir of Immortality

Here are some more expensive cards if you ever wanted to upgrade: Rhystic Study , Phyrexian Arena , Watery Grave , Godless Shrine , & Hallowed Fountain

multimedia on U wont like that

3 weeks ago

Hey, nice budget Esper deck. Looks like you're not finished?

In Esper colors you can take more advantage of opponent disruption and you kind of need more of it if you want to consistently cast Chromium, who's seven mana. Control the game more by slowing down your opponents which can give you more time to prepare the game for when you drop Chromium. I think you should stick with Tocatli Honor Guard . In fact I'm suggesting to expand on it. Of course this means cutting most creatures who have an ETB ability.

Chromium doesn't have an ETB ability and there's not very many creatures here who do. In Commander many decks, much more than not, rely on ETB abilities from creatures to get value or even to win. Shutting this off can give you a big advantage. Creatures who exile other creatures or permanents when they ETB are risky because of board wipes. When these creatures die from a board wipe then the exiled card goes back to the opponent. Board wipes are more important for Control then these creatures.

In Commander 26 lands is very low for a Control deck. This is the amount of land you would play in a 60 card Control deck in Standard. In Commander there's a lot more than 60 cards therefore you need more lands because you want to make your land drops each turn. Mana rocks and other spells that can get you lands in your hand or on to the battlefield can help, but even with these cards you need more land. You really want both. There's only 91 cards here; my advice is start with adding 10 more lands and the three budget Signets: Azorius Signet , Dimir Signet , Orzhov Signet .

Budget lands to consider adding:

• Command Tower
• Exotic Orchard
• Caves of Koilos
• Ash Barrens
• Esper Panorama
• Sunken Hollow
• Prairie Stream
• Irrigated Farmland

Cards to consider cutting to add lands/Signets:

• Fleet Swallower
• Drowned Secrets
• Psychic Spiral
• Psychic Corrosion
• Thought Collapse

Consider cutting the opponent mill theme? Opponent mill is not very good in multiplayer Commander unless your dedicated to it. Graveyards are a huge resource for so many types of decks in Commander; mill will most likely help your opponents rather than hurt them. I wouldn't play mill unless it's the main strategy of your deck. Playing many wheel effects and having infinite mill combos as win conditions.

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Other budget cards to consider adding (some of these are in the maybeboard):

• Aven Mindcensor : disrupt opponents tutors including Fetch lands.
• Notion Thief : deny opponents from drawing a lot of cards.
• Blind Obedience : prevents haste and denies your opponents from using artifacts for mana when they first come onto the battlefield.
• Hushbringer : a supercharged Tocatli Honor Guard.
• Rule of Law : can prevent many combos in Commander and it slows the game down for you to better control.
• Narset, Parter of Veils : allows opponents to only draw one card during their turns.
• Day of Judgment
• Cleansing Nova
• Diabolic Tutor
• Fellwar Stone
• Counterspell
• Arcane Denial
• Brainstorm
• Ponder
• Impulse
• Detention Sphere
• Generous Gift

Cards to consider cutting:

• Final Payment
• Drown in Sorrow
• Absorb
• Deputy of Detention
• Hostage Taker
• Conclave Tribunal
• Shell of the Last Kappa
• Tome of the Guildpact
• Dire Fleet Ravager
• Sphinx's Insight
• Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted
• Nightveil Predators
• Basilica Bell-Haunt
• Dimir Guildmage
• The Haunt of Hightower
• Rise from the Tides

multimedia on jodah

1 month ago

Hey, looks good for your first Commander deck. You haven't finished the manabase? Nice Ugin, the Spirit Dragon :)

What's the max budget for your deck? I ask because you haven't allocated yet for lands in the manabase. 35x basic lands is not going to work when you want to pay for spells. When playing five colors the manabase and the amount of color fixing you have in your deck is very important. If you don't make these things priority to focus on getting right then your deck will have a difficult time functioning when playing so many colors.

You have a good start by including the budget land ramp spells ( Cultivate , Sakura-Tribe Elder ), but you're going to want a lot more than just these spells for both ramp and more importantly for color fixing. You can build a five color manabase on a budget with basic lands using some dual lands that have interaction with basic lands, Tri lands and other budget lands.

Here's an example:

• Command Tower
• Exotic Orchard
• Cascading Cataracts
• Ash Barrens
• Evolving Wilds
• Mystic Monastery
• Opulent Palace
• Frontier Bivouac
• Sandsteppe Citadel
• Seaside Citadel
• Nomad Outpost
• Prairie Stream
• Cinder Glade
• Sunken Hollow
• Woodland Cemetery
• Sunpetal Grove
• Dragonskull Summit
• Yavimaya Coast
• Battlefield Forge
• Caves of Koilos
• Llanowar Wastes
• 8x Forest
• 2x Island
• 2x Plains
• 2x Mountain
• 2x Swamp

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This example manabase is not ideal by any means, but it's low budget and a starting point for future upgrades. Sunken, Glade or Stream are dual lands that Farseek can search for since they're two different land types. Being able to land ramp with a dual land with Farseek makes Farseek better and helps with color fixing.

A budget manabase like this example can use color fixing from other nonland sources. Signets and other budget mana rocks that can make colored mana and ramp are options.

• Izzet Signet
• Selesnya Signet
• Dimir Signet
• Boros Signet
• Golgari Signet
• Fellwar Stone or Arcane Signet
• Commander's Sphere or Chromatic Lantern

With Signets you can pay for the colorless mana cost with mana from any source such as a land. That mana then turns into two different colors of mana. For example if you have two Signets on the battlefield and two lands then that mana can be four different colors of mana. In this manabase example there's more green sources than others that's because green is the enabler color to help to get all the other colors with land ramp and mana dorks. There's more green than the rest because you consistently want to have green mana in the early game.

• Joiner Adept or Chromatic Lantern
• Paradise Druid or Birds of Paradise
• Faeburrow Elder
• Fertile Ground

Joiner Adept lets you tap lands for any color of mana which is great color fixing when playing five colors. Chromatic Lantern is a more expensive price card that does the same thing and it's better because it also ramps. Faeburrow Elder and Paradise Druid are called mana dorks and either one can tap to make different colors of mana. Faeburrow by itself can tap to make two mana . With Jodah, Archmage Eternal on the battlefield it can make four mana . If you have Jodah and have a permanent on the battlefield that's black then Faeburrow can tap to make all five colors of mana.

Fertile Ground is an example of another source of color fixing/ramp that's different than the rest. It's an aura that enchants a land you control. When the enchanted land is tapped it makes two colors of mana; one mana that the land could produce and another mana of any color you choose.

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Color fixing sources that also ramp are better than ones that don't. If you can as the saying goes "kill two birds with one stone" then it can help your deck. Including most cards that can do two different things you want are better than cards that can only do one thing you want. For example Cultivate ramps and color fixes since it can find two different basic lands. Izzet Signet taps to ramp and color fix two different colors of mana. Renegade Map only color fixes, it doesn't ramp because it only puts the land you search for into your hand not onto the battlefield and it can't tap to make mana.

Sylvan Scrying is one exception since it can tutor (search your library) for any one land and put it into your hand. That's powerful and helpful to have when you can get a land that can make any color of mana such as Command Tower or better yet Cascading Cataracts which can tap along with five other sources of mana of any colors to make all five different colors of mana. This land makes it easy to be able to make five different colors to cast spells with Jodah. Cataracts is good with ramp from mana rocks.

I have suggested a lot of cards which means if you want to include them then you'll have to make many cuts. I'm not going to give you suggestions of cuts now, but if you're interested in any of these suggestions then I offer to help to make cuts. This is the nature of building budget many colored decks in Commander; have to allocate a lot of deck spots to cards to help the manabase and to make sure your deck can function, so you can reliably cast cards. Good luck with your deck.

Franck8666 on Haïti chérie

2 months ago

dingusdingo I've modified my Angel's Grace / Ad Nauseam to include your line too ! Thanks for that.

As for removal, Swords to Plowshares is in the list, so is Disenchant for hurtful stax effect on my side of the board. I'll also include Blast Zone as last resort removal.

Mox Opal missing was indeed intentional, since I wasn't sure if I had the artefact density to run it. I will test it instead of Dimir Signet .

I've run the miracle package in my early run with Aminatou, but here with Ad nauseam, it bring my CMC too high to run.

The anti- search creatures are great and I will include them into the sideboard, but Ashiok, Dream Render might be better since he can be reset with Aminatou and he exile graveyard too.

Humility is a great card, I'll try to find it a place.

I didn't went the full stax road, since there's another stax Aminatou list in the primer (it's the only list) and I wanted a different build.

Why no Zur ? It's easy, Zur already had ton of builds, primers and he is known as the strongest Esper commander. This primer is to shine a light on this little Voodoo girl Aminatou, the Fateshifter and her capabilities. She will never be as strong as Zur, but that's fine, because nobody else is.

SideBae on Alela, control-aggro

2 months ago

I'm glad you found my comment helpful. That's a good point about Divine Visitation -- it may be a win-more card anyway, and Kindred Discovery seems like a good reason to keep it out.

I do think that you should at least switch the Dimir Signet and Azorius Signet for their talisman counterparts. I say this because casting a talisman when you only have two mana up means you have one available when it resolves, whereas the signets require a mana to activate. (In general, I think the talismans are better than signets.)

My only other advice right now concerns Tainted Pact . You can turn this into a tutor-proper/ Laboratory Maniac win condition if you make your landbase truly singleton. (Since the only way it gets stopped is if you hit two of the same-name basic in a row.) Since you run 17 basics, this would mean changing 14 of them. A good way to start is by making 3 of the 14 into snow-covered versions of themselves; Tainted Pact only cares about names, so Snow-Covered Island and Island are totally different cards as far as it is concerned. (Note that if you want to keep the basic count high, switching half of each basic type to snow-covered will make the Tainted Pact less likely to fail, even with doubles in the deck.) That'd leave 11 lands to be replaced, though I don't think that'd be too difficult if you're willing to invest in your landbase a little. For instance, putting in the fetches you don't currently have would take care of 6 of those slots; more options include Forbidden Orchard , City of Brass , Mystic Gate , Sunken Ruins , etc. Remember that even if you don't go fully singleton, running fewer basics with the same name will increase Tainted Pact 's power.

If you don't want to do that, I suggest cutting Tainted Pact for Back to Basics .

GhostChieftain on The river boogeyman

2 months ago

To be more effective, you will want less lands and more mana rocks. Fellwar Stone , Dimir Signet , Talisman of Dominance , Arcane Signet , Mind Stone are all pretty cheap and very effective and I would suggest all but mind stone even for a budgetless version of this.

Also, take out dash hopes. You are in blue and have so many better coumterspell options. With dash hopes, your opponent gets to choose whichever hurts them the least and in a 40 life format that is usually the 5 life.

For an alt win, you can add in Laboratory Maniac / Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and Demonic Consultation / Tainted Pact .

Lord_Grimm on Famine edh

2 months ago

In 3 colors you need far more fixing/ramp. This is what I would swap to balance out your build: Divination < Dimir Signet , Mass Manipulation < Rakdos Signet , Slave of Bolas < Izzet Signet , Victimize < Hedron Archive or Mind Stone , Hazoret's Favor < Commander's Sphere , Warstorm Surge < Fellwar Stone

SideBae on Alela, aristocrat trickster *HELP PLEASE*

2 months ago

Ponder and Preordain are good.

Painful Truths is three mana and card-positive... I love it in any three-or-more color deck.

Entomb goes well with your Animate Dead and friends.

You need artifact ramp aside from Sol Ring . Consider Talisman of Dominance , Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Hierarchy , Dimir Signet , Orzhov Signet , Azorius Signet , Fellwar Stone ...