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Dimir Signet Discussion
1 week ago
Before actually playing the deck I was very focused on setting up a nice graveyard for Lazav using a bunch of wheel effects and looters. I also had a lot of evasive creatures included to ensure that Lazav would connect.
After playing the deck I think it works a lot better to just play the cards out without focusing to much about the setup for Lazav. As a result I cut down to just 2 wheel effects (I think) and no looters unless they are evasive creatures. I only run evasive creatures that I would not mind playing without thinking about Lazav (I still think Invisible Stalker is to good to not be included though).
The creatures that can protect Lazav are so much better then I ever thought they would be. It comes up every single game (multiple times) and it can really be a blow out when you are left with your (sometimes lethal) commander after people put in an effort to remove it, did some collateral damage and payed a price themselves. Cavern Harpy dodges everything (besides Take Possession which I have never seen played) but have the drawback of resulting in Lazav gaining summoning sickness when I replay him. I had a game where I played Lazav, someone tried to remove him (sometimes by killing the board) I would turn Lazav into Cavern Harpy to dodge. Then replay Lazav, new removal, harpy again, repeat for like 4-5 turns. Summoning sickness is a real draw back from Cavern Harpy but is non the less a really strong protection piece. Erebos, God of the Dead (and Thassa, God of the Sea when I manage to get one) can dodge a lot of removal without the issue of summoning sickness.
I've also found that this deck can do some really fast kills fairly easy when a little lucky. Simply playing Lazav on turn 2, Buried Alive on turn 3 to get Vector Asp, Phyrexian Dreadnought (and maybe Dimir Infiltrator) sets up for a kill on turn 4 on players who simply cannot block, and turn 5 with any evasion creature in the mix.
But in most games where we simply dont draw Buried Alive, just playing the deck more like a control deck is really fun and work well.
1 week ago
Your deck looks pretty good already! You could try Minion Reflector to copy creatures after blinking them. Noxious Gearhulk and Phyrexian Ingester are also good for removal. Massacre Wurm should be great to wipe out smaller creatures, or even bigger creatures if you can blink it multiple times. Sunblast Angel could work well as a boardwipe and discourages attacking and tapping.
I think Infinite Reflection is a bit risky because any removal on the enchanted creature removes both cards.
1 week ago
I really like the concept of the deck, however I think that you have a lot of cards which don't add much value to the strategy.
For cards you could easily cut:
Iona, Shield of Emeria, Cloudshift, Essence Flux, Graceful Adept, Sen Triplets, Greed, Leyline of Anticipation, Near-Death Experience, Paradox Haze, Bond of Agony, Enduring Ideal, Sanguimancy, Temporal Extortion, Conjurer's Closet, Phyrexian Processor, Spellbook, Vedalken Orrery and Carrion Howler. You also have too many lands, you could easily go down to 36 and be fine.
As for cards I would add to the deck:
Unspeakable Symbol is an amazing card, it provides the deck with instant speed life loss, but also provides you a win condition in the form of commander damage from Zur. On top of this it can be tutored by him.
Spirit Mantle lets Zur connect, allowing you those sweet tutors.
Soul Channeling is another effect that lets you pay life that is tutorable by Zur. It's not great but it's still ebtter than some of the life loss effect you're running.
Counterspells! the best way to protect your stuff (since you have to go a round once you've tutored your combo), you need much more in the way of counterspells to protect your pieces. Counterspell, Swan Song, Mana Drain (if it's in your price range), Delay, Negate, Arcane Denial, Pact of Negation, these are all good examples of counterspells you should be running. On top of this you should run removal, especially stuff like Swords to Plowshares, Anguished Unmaking, Disenchant, etc. as well as Grasp of Fate and Detention Sphere. There's also Seal of Cleansing and Aura of Silence.
Ramp! You don't have very much in the way of ramp/fixing. I would recommend finding space for Dimir Signet, Talisman of Dominance, Azorius Signet, Talisman of Progress, Orzhov Signet, and depending on your budget, Mana Crypt and Mox Diamond. Dark Ritual is another good burst of mana as well.
Savor the Moment is a card you could use to get to your next turn (to jumpstart your combo) if you wanted to.
And if you're concerned about discarding to handsize, Reliquary Tower and Library of Leng between the two should be enough. But for the most part you don't really card, just sculpt your best 7 and go from there.
Hopefully this'll help streamline the deck.
2 weeks ago
So took a quick look through your list....
I would cut stuff like Reflector Mage, Champion, Vizier, Paradox Engine, As Foretold, Brave the Sands, Ghostly Prison, Migratory Route, Spitting Image, Approach and stuff like that. They don't really fit what you want to do.
Either way you definitely need more land and some better ramp for 4/C and remember have fun, keep tuning, and never be afraid to cut cards you love. Cheers!
1 month ago
Overall it looks more streamlined. I have one lingering recommendation of -Wound Reflection +Talisman of Dominance or Dimir Signet. Reflection is a cool win more when it happens but really bad when it doesn't and as a 6 mana enchantment it won't be helping you recover from being behind at all. Either of those rocks I mentioned will speed up your game plan and smooth your colors making more keepable hands. Ideally I would say run all three signets and the dimir talisman
1 month ago
I’m noticing a lot of single target removal, which is fine. Personally, I prefer more global effects (like Fleshbag Marauder) that scale better in a multiplayer game. Maybe cut Walk the Plank and other sourcery-speed answers for this kind of effect. The same can be said about Cabal Therapy type effects. They’re pretty good in 1v1 matches to pick out stuff you’d otherwise have trouble dealing with, but in multiplayer they don’t do enough.
Black has a ton of great sweepers that seem like they would fit into the deck. Damnation is the best, but Life's Finale, Decree of Pain, and Deadly Tempest are all great effects to have that won’t cost you as much, and will clear the board more effectively than Flaying Tendrils and Yahenni's Expertise.
The Disentomb effects seem kinda counterintuitive to the reanimation plan. With this kind of deck, your trying to cheat something big out early, not get something back to hand where it will either stay for multiple turns or cost a ton of mana to get back.
Hope this helps!
1 month ago
Oloro's so cool! I'd highly recommend the 2 mana signets, (Dimir Signet,Orzhov Signet, and Azorius Signet) to help fix and ramp, great to have quick mana for turn two. Helps get Oloro out and gives extra mana to dump into his card draw feature.
1 month ago
So I notice your group's ban list is focused on the "feel bad" cards like game warping fatties and land destruction. This means your land is relatively safe and a deck focused on drawing cards can easily function on 34 or 35. I would build it with 33 but I see you want to get to a few select top end cards. I would cut these lands in order: Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep, Rakdos Carnarium, Izzet Boilerworks, Crosis's Catacombs, and Dimir Aqueduct.
High cost cards can be fun but it's important to balance their impact with the fact that drawing too many of them can stunt your game play. Cruel Ultimatum immediately jumps out at me as a fun card but ultimately lacking in the impact. Targeting a single player and being super heavy both in cmc and color requirements makes the risk to reward ratio not in your favor.
Jaya and Nicol Bolas both fall in a similar camp of cost outweighing their impact. Of the two a greater argument can be made for Jaya pumping out spells and drawing cards but that triple red is rough. Keep in mind the big goal here is to force draw absurd amounts of cards, each high cost and color intense spell you hit is a speed bump in that card drawing engine.
Dominus of Fealty and Thraximundar are a pretty high cost to invest into things that are off strategy. Nezahal, Primal Tide is in a similar boat but if your play group creates a need for a 7/7 uncounterable then it’s a fine inclusion. Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker is strategy adjacent but the slot can probably be put to better use. I also don’t like Guiltfeeder but I recognize that is likely do to my meta shaping my opinion of it.
Cards I would look at adding
Anvil of Bogardan I am surprised isn't already in here.
Memory Jar is another great wheel.
Psychosis Crawler is too on strategy not to include.
Sunder is great in decks like this but your group would probably ban it in a heartbeat based on your current ban list.
You’re already fairly deep in artifacts so a mana rock ramp package would massively increase speed and consistency. Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, (maybe) Mana Vault, Rakdos Signet, Dimir Signet, Izzet Signet, Thought Vessel, Chrome Mox, and Mox Diamond.
Vandalblast if your playgroup uses a healthy amount of artifact ramp.