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1 day ago
Naturalize hits very few things game 1, so put it in the sideboard
Cinder Glade have no reason to not be in the deck
Beastmaster Ascension is just win more, once it is online you have probabel already won or lost.
Blood Moon as a one-of fells weird go 3,4 or 0
2 days ago
Just a couple initial thoughts. Cartouche of Zeal doesn't seem very good. I don't usually have extra mana on the same turn as casting uril and the other ability just doesn't seem worth a card slot.
It seems you play against a lot of blue decks with choke, pyroblast, and carpet of flowers.
I'd like to know how Razia's Purification works out. You have a lot of permanents that would be affected.
What is the purpose of those planeswalkers? They don't seem like they would help you win much.
The mana base has too many ETB tapped lands. Under almost all cases a Forest would be better than Khalni Garden. Cinder Glade and Canopy Vista can not enter the battlefield untapped without at least one more basic in the deck. Dual lands are a lot of money, but Naya colors are the cheapest if you ever want to make that investment. Flamekin Village could be cut too.
2 days ago
I've done a swap of the number of Glorybringer and Verdurous Gearhulk. 4x Glorybringer gives me better odds to draw it and get it into play turn four or five. I've also increased the number of Mountain to 3x cutting 1x Forest to make room. Glorybringer is double red so having another red source that doesn't come into play tapped really helps.
The difference between the Dragon and Gearhulk is the Dragon's haste. Creature removal is good right now and I get more value faster out of the Dragon than Gearhulk. I've also found the Dragon to be much better than Gearhulk in both Mardu Vehicles and Zombie matchups, especially Mardu as a great way to deal with Gideon, Ally of Zendikar. Gearhulk is also an artifact, the Dragon isn't, which is relevant.
I was sideboarding a third Glorybringer, but I don't need to do that anymore, I cut it for a third Manglehorn. I like Manglehorn in both Marvel and Mardu Vehicles matchups, especially Mardu because it can kill Heart of Kiran and slow down Scrapheap Scrounger.
Small Summary, Sideboard Cards for Matchups (Look for a more in depth guide in the Sideboard Card Choices section soon):
- Marvel: 4x Negate, 2x Manglehorn and 2x Tireless Tracker. Negate is the best card in the matchup because it can counter Marvel as well as both Chandras. I need all four Negates because I want to at least have one turn four. Tracker comes in as a way to get some card advantage if I can disrupt Marvel. This deck has no way to stop Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger.
- Zombies: 3x Radiant Flames, 1x Magma Spray. Flames and Spray are the best cards in the matchup. Spray because it can exile either Dread Wanderer, Relentless Dead or Scrapheap Scrounger. A heavy removal suite of 4x Spray, 4x Harnessed Lightning and 3x Flames is very potent and needed. Harnessed is important because it can kill Lord of the Accursed and/or large Diregraf Colossus, double Lord can make Zombies more than 3 power which gets around Flames. Sometimes I need to kill a Lord before I can sweep the board. Metallic Mimic is also a problem in this matchup it's best to kill it because it can make Zombies more than 3 power.
- Mardu Vehicles: 3x Manglehorn and 1x Magma Spray. This matchup is all about killing or delaying Heart of Kiran. Spray can exile Scrapheap Scrounger as well as kill a turn one Toolcraft Exemplar. Glorybringer although not a sideboard card is one of the best cards for the matchup because it can help me to stabilize being a terrific counter play to Gideon, Ally of Zendikar.
- Izzet Control: 4x Negate, 3x Tireless Tracker and 1x Manglehorn. Negate is to stop Glimmer of Genius, Sweltering Suns and protect Tracker. Glimmer is the card that puts Control very far ahead. Suns is the Control players sweeper of choice and it can wreck me if it resolves. Tracker is the card I want to see in this matchup because if I can protect it, it can out card advantage Control. Censor is something I have to look out for always be aware of needing an extra mana for my spells.
- Golgari Energy: 3x Tireless Tracker and 1x Rhonas the Indomitable some versions are playing Heart of Kiran if so 3x Manglehorn also. Fatal Push is the removal spell of choice from my opponent making 3 drops much better than 2 drops in this matchup. Tracker comes in as a way to gain card advantage and Rhonas can be a both an attacker and blocker, mostly a great blocker. Storing energy for Harnessed Lightning is very important because my opponent's creatures can get big.
4 days ago
I like the concept, keep us posted on how it plays once you have some time to test it more.
The first thing that I noticed was the mana base, and with running three colors you wont always be able to ensure you have the color you need when you need it. There is no way to tutor up a specific land. I also try to have basics enough to cover devotion cost, so in your case two Island, two Forest, and two Plains. That is just a personal preference though. I used to have a couple of people with severe land hate where I played.
I like the Mechanized Production idea as an alt wincon, and it ties into what you are trying to do pretty well.
Good luck with the deck, and let us know how it goes.
4 days ago
I think that 3-4 Glorybringer is the best amount. It is very good in most game 1's and is almost always a live draw. It does kind of compete with chandra as a two red mana spell that when resolved demands an answer. I might try 3/2, or 4/1You probably should also have 3-4 Bristling Hydra if control decks are prevalent.
Your plan is to be agressive, but not Lathnu Hellion and Voltaic Brawler agressive. I think 2-4 Channeler Initiate is a good spot to be in,as it is pretty sweet at ramping and getting deep-fiends out.
I'm not sure if you are really attached to Fling, i might cut it if you aren't too attached
My suggestions for the mainboard
+1 Glorybringer (take out a chandra if you want 4)
+2 Game Trail
-1 Cinder Glade
Kozilek's Return vs Sweltering Suns/Radiant Flames: Return is only really good against really good against super-aggro decks. Zombies has Transgress the Mind to get rid of cards like Elder Deep-Fiend so return won't be flashed back. It is true, however that Sweltering Suns kills your stuff, so maybe find something else. Chandra, Flamecaller could be good. Or a different card that is good against zombies. Skysovereign is one of those cards, especially good on t4 with a mana dork. I also don't know how prevalent zombies is in your area.
On the topic of control hosers: Bristling Hydra is very good against most control decks, Glorybringer is good against planeswalker control decks, Prowling Serpopard is great against UR, UW, and other blue decks, and Tireless Tracker is good in general. i'd stick with 2-3 of the cat snake for right now, and maybe 1 tracker. You already have it in the main right now so...
+1 Bristling Hydra (very hard for tower, UR control, and sometimes mardu to beat)
-3 Whirler Virtuoso (cuz it's going in the main)
Side note: If you want to keep Fling and stuff, it's your choice. I'm only giving advice. If so:
+2 Game Trail
-1 Cinder Glade
Side Side Note: Lumbering Falls is great against control! (and in general) Throw em in!
Changes I definitely advocate for:
Skysovereign, Consul Flagship in the side
Keep calm and brew on
5 days ago
It's a good start. Removal in green is very hard to find so I like the small touches.
However, something about commander is you always want to have some sort of interaction with your general. It's certainly not necessary but with Multani, I think it's more fun. If you get some card draw in your deck, it would work really well with him.
Try Howling Mine, Font of Mythos, Collective Unconscious, Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Glimpse of Nature, Heartwood Storyteller, Fecundity, Primordial Sage, Regal Force, Rites of Flourishing, Shamanic Revelation, Soul of the Harvest, Triumph of Ferocity or Zendikar Resurgent.
Another important thing in commander is a solid mana base. Running 38 Forests is not all bad but you want some more interaction with your deck. Oran-Rief, the Vastwood and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx would go really well in your deck. You might also want to consider a Sol Ring and Gilded Lotus because those are commander staples.
Now, what to cut.
Let's start with creatures. One thing you have to think about when casting any kind of spell in a commander game is, "Is this spell worth the mana cost?" and "Does this spell have any kind of interaction in my deck?".
In my opinion, these are the creatures you need to cut. To the right of each, I will put some substitutes:
Shoe Tree ... This is illegal in commander.
A lot of the creatures you have just don't have much synergy in your deck. Cut them and try out the other recommendations I've given you thus far.
Other cards to cut with recommendations:
Call of the Herd ... Not really worth it unless you're running a token deck which you are not.
TL;DR I like your deck. It's a good first time commander deck. Try to cut some of the creatures out that don't have any synergy with it. Card draw would go well with your deck. Mono green always has ramp.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask! Welcome to the format.
6 days ago
Yea I did. I've got this deck in paper and Fervent Energy online and have noticed whenever the Hydra comes down with some energy onboard (Fabriction + whatever) it's pretty nuts. The mana here feels rough so I've bumped to 4 Attune with Aether which, combined with Aether Hub means there's usually a little extra energy left over. Voltaic Brawler can help there, but even a single activation can be backbreaking because of the counter and blanking removal.
Samut, Voice of Dissent I'm not sold on because of the 5 cost. Running 22 lands and 4 Attune may change that, but I've been having trouble hitting all my colors of late so my primary focus is smoothing out the mana and then I can consider Samut with some sort of idea of consistency. The Hydra helps here because it pushes the deck more with the extra Forests helping the turn 1 Attune.
1 week ago
Hey Randsome, thanks for your feedback.
Rishkar, Peema Renegade and Aethersphere Harvester work together because both their abilities use the stack. Rishkar's ETB trigger and Harvester's crew activated ability both go on the stack. Crew is an activated ability. Once both abilities are on the stack I can choose what order they resolve. When a creature enters the battlefield it can be tapped to use another activated ability that requires a creature to be tapped such as crew. When Rishkar ETB before I resolve his trigger I can tap him to crew Harvester, the crew ability then also goes on the stack. Once both Rishkar's trigger and the crew of Harvester are on the stack I can order them to happen in any way I choose. Choosing to resolve the crew of Harvester on the stack first makes Harvester a creature. I can then resolve Rishkar's trigger second which lets me put a counter on Harvester since Harvester is now a creature.
The same thing happens with the stack when another Rishkar ETB when one is already on the battlefield. Both the legendary rule and Rishkar's ETB trigger go on the stack. I can choose which order I want them to happen. Choosing Rishkar's trigger first lets me put counters on other creatures even one of the Rishkars. Second I resolve the legendary rule which then kills one of my choice of Rishkar.
An updated Sultai Energy Elves list:
- 4x Servant of the Conduit
- 4x Sylvan Advocate
- 4x Skyrider Elf
- 4x Winding Constrictor
- 4x Rishkar, Peema Renegade
- 4x Verdurous Gearhulk
- 2x Walking Ballista
- 4x Attune with Aether
- 4x Fatal Push
- 3x Grasp of Darkness
- 2x Aethersphere Harvester
- 4x Aether Hub
- 4x Blooming Marsh
- 3x Botanical Sanctum
- 4x Forest
- 3x Swamp
- 1x Island
- 1x Hissing Quagmire
- 1x Lumbering Falls