Forest

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Vintage Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Modern Legal
Frontier Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Standard Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
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Basic Land — Forest

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argenmendon on RG Slivers [Modern]

1 day ago

Naturalize hits very few things game 1, so put it in the sideboard

Cinder Glade have no reason to not be in the deck

Rampant Growth ramps you from 2 to 4, and you have few 4 drops, so it is very inefficient, go for Birds of Paradise insead and a bit fewer 2 drops and a few more 3 drops.

Beastmaster Ascension is just win more, once it is online you have probabel already won or lost.

Blood Moon as a one-of fells weird go 3,4 or 0

think 10-6 Forest-Mountain is better (8-4 if you go for Cinder Glade)

beeplus on Uril-ly Need to Stop Hitting Yourself

2 days ago

hello again.

Just a couple initial thoughts. Cartouche of Zeal doesn't seem very good. I don't usually have extra mana on the same turn as casting uril and the other ability just doesn't seem worth a card slot.

It seems you play against a lot of blue decks with choke, pyroblast, and carpet of flowers.

I'd like to know how Razia's Purification works out. You have a lot of permanents that would be affected.

What is the purpose of those planeswalkers? They don't seem like they would help you win much.

The mana base has too many ETB tapped lands. Under almost all cases a Forest would be better than Khalni Garden. Cinder Glade and Canopy Vista can not enter the battlefield untapped without at least one more basic in the deck. Dual lands are a lot of money, but Naya colors are the cheapest if you ever want to make that investment. Flamekin Village could be cut too.

Some suggestions of cards I have found very useful: Qasali Pridemage, Nature's Lore, Enlightened Tutor, Sol Ring

multimedia on Energy Elves

2 days ago

I've done a swap of the number of Glorybringer and Verdurous Gearhulk. 4x Glorybringer gives me better odds to draw it and get it into play turn four or five. I've also increased the number of Mountain to 3x cutting 1x Forest to make room. Glorybringer is double red so having another red source that doesn't come into play tapped really helps.

The difference between the Dragon and Gearhulk is the Dragon's haste. Creature removal is good right now and I get more value faster out of the Dragon than Gearhulk. I've also found the Dragon to be much better than Gearhulk in both Mardu Vehicles and Zombie matchups, especially Mardu as a great way to deal with Gideon, Ally of Zendikar. Gearhulk is also an artifact, the Dragon isn't, which is relevant.

I was sideboarding a third Glorybringer, but I don't need to do that anymore, I cut it for a third Manglehorn. I like Manglehorn in both Marvel and Mardu Vehicles matchups, especially Mardu because it can kill Heart of Kiran and slow down Scrapheap Scrounger.


Small Summary, Sideboard Cards for Matchups (Look for a more in depth guide in the Sideboard Card Choices section soon):


WuzzyAF on Vitu-Splicey

4 days ago

I like the concept, keep us posted on how it plays once you have some time to test it more.

The first thing that I noticed was the mana base, and with running three colors you wont always be able to ensure you have the color you need when you need it. There is no way to tutor up a specific land. I also try to have basics enough to cover devotion cost, so in your case two Island, two Forest, and two Plains. That is just a personal preference though. I used to have a couple of people with severe land hate where I played.

I like the Mechanized Production idea as an alt wincon, and it ties into what you are trying to do pretty well.

Good luck with the deck, and let us know how it goes.

Guardians on Need sideboard help for this ...

4 days ago

I think that 3-4 Glorybringer is the best amount. It is very good in most game 1's and is almost always a live draw. It does kind of compete with chandra as a two red mana spell that when resolved demands an answer. I might try 3/2, or 4/1You probably should also have 3-4 Bristling Hydra if control decks are prevalent.

Your plan is to be agressive, but not Lathnu Hellion and Voltaic Brawler agressive. I think 2-4 Channeler Initiate is a good spot to be in,as it is pretty sweet at ramping and getting deep-fiends out.

You probably should run Whirler Virtuoso over Electrostatic Pummeler, you have no Blossoming Defense and no way to make it huge unless you get huge amounts of energy.

Oath of Nissa also probably isn't worth it, you could run Channeler Initiate over it

I'm not sure if you are really attached to Fling, i might cut it if you aren't too attached

My suggestions for the mainboard

+1 Glorybringer (take out a chandra if you want 4)

+1 Bristling Hydra

+2 Whirler Virtuoso

+1 Lumbering Falls

+4 Channeler Initiate

+2 Blossoming Defense/Magma Spray depending on how prevelant control, zombies, mardu, or aetherworks re in your meta

+2 Game Trail

+1 Forest

+1 Manglehorn (it's great at stopping vehicles, Aetherworks Marvel, and other random stuff like clues with its etb)/+1 Whirler Virtuoso

-3 Oath of Nissa

-2 Spirebluff Canal

-1 Cinder Glade

-3 Electrostatic Pummeler

-3 Voltaic Brawler

-3 Fling

Sideboard comments:

Kozilek's Return vs Sweltering Suns/Radiant Flames: Return is only really good against really good against super-aggro decks. Zombies has Transgress the Mind to get rid of cards like Elder Deep-Fiend so return won't be flashed back. It is true, however that Sweltering Suns kills your stuff, so maybe find something else. Chandra, Flamecaller could be good. Or a different card that is good against zombies. Skysovereign is one of those cards, especially good on t4 with a mana dork. I also don't know how prevalent zombies is in your area.

On the topic of control hosers: Bristling Hydra is very good against most control decks, Glorybringer is good against planeswalker control decks, Prowling Serpopard is great against UR, UW, and other blue decks, and Tireless Tracker is good in general. i'd stick with 2-3 of the cat snake for right now, and maybe 1 tracker. You already have it in the main right now so...

+1 Bristling Hydra (very hard for tower, UR control, and sometimes mardu to beat)

+2 Manglehorn/Release the Gremlins (Over Appetite for the Unnatural Manglehorn is especially good as a pre-Deep-Fiend play) You could stick with appetite though.

+2 Sweltering Suns/Radiant Flames/Chandra, Flamecaller

+1 Tireless Tracker

+1 Skysovereign, Consul Flagship

+1 Negate?

-3 Whirler Virtuoso (cuz it's going in the main)

-2 Kozilek's Return

-1 Baral's Expertise

-2 Appetite for the Unnatural

Side note: If you want to keep Fling and stuff, it's your choice. I'm only giving advice. If so:

MB changes:

+1 Voltaic Brawler

+2 Blossoming Defense

+1 Bristling Hydra

+1 Lumbering Falls

+2 Game Trail

+1 Forest

+1 Anything

-3 Electrostatic Pummeler

-3 Oath of Nissa

-2 Spirebluff Canal

-1 Cinder Glade

Side Side Note: Lumbering Falls is great against control! (and in general) Throw em in!

Changes I definitely advocate for:

CUT Electrostatic Pummeler

Add some hexproof stuff like Bristling Hydra, Lumbering Falls, and Blossoming Defense

Skysovereign, Consul Flagship in the side

Kozilek's Return out for Flamecaller, Sweltering Suns, or Radiant Flames

Keep calm and brew on

Olivvyia on Mono Green

5 days ago

It's a good start. Removal in green is very hard to find so I like the small touches.

However, something about commander is you always want to have some sort of interaction with your general. It's certainly not necessary but with Multani, I think it's more fun. If you get some card draw in your deck, it would work really well with him.

Try Howling Mine, Font of Mythos, Collective Unconscious, Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Glimpse of Nature, Heartwood Storyteller, Fecundity, Primordial Sage, Regal Force, Rites of Flourishing, Shamanic Revelation, Soul of the Harvest, Triumph of Ferocity or Zendikar Resurgent.

Another important thing in commander is a solid mana base. Running 38 Forests is not all bad but you want some more interaction with your deck. Oran-Rief, the Vastwood and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx would go really well in your deck. You might also want to consider a Sol Ring and Gilded Lotus because those are commander staples.

Now, what to cut.

Let's start with creatures. One thing you have to think about when casting any kind of spell in a commander game is, "Is this spell worth the mana cost?" and "Does this spell have any kind of interaction in my deck?".

In my opinion, these are the creatures you need to cut. To the right of each, I will put some substitutes:

Ancient Ooze

Ancient Silverback

Awakener Druid

Bloodbriar

Crocodile of the Crossing

Duskdale Wurm ... Pelakka Wurm

Emperor Crocodile

Nessian Asp

Pathbreaker Wurm ... Nylea, God of the Hunt or Brawn or Thunderfoot Baloth or even Primal Rage

Plated Crusher

Prized Unicorn

Pouncing Cheetah

Quilled Slagwurm

Ridgescale Tusker

Scaled Behemoth

Shoe Tree ... This is illegal in commander.

Skysnare Spider

Woodborn Behemoth

Yavimaya Ancients

Yew Spirit

A lot of the creatures you have just don't have much synergy in your deck. Cut them and try out the other recommendations I've given you thus far.

Other cards to cut with recommendations:

Call of the Herd ... Not really worth it unless you're running a token deck which you are not.

Prey Upon ... It's just not very good in commander. Try Ulvenwald Tracker

Might of Old Krosa ... Meh. Try Giant Growth

Shed Weakness ... Unnecessary. Again. Giant Growth

Genju of the Cedars

Gift of Paradise

Living Terrain

Sheltered Aerie

Trial of Strength

Zendikar's Roil

TL;DR I like your deck. It's a good first time commander deck. Try to cut some of the creatures out that don't have any synergy with it. Card draw would go well with your deck. Mono green always has ramp.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask! Welcome to the format.

alulien on

6 days ago

Yea I did. I've got this deck in paper and Fervent Energy online and have noticed whenever the Hydra comes down with some energy onboard (Fabriction + whatever) it's pretty nuts. The mana here feels rough so I've bumped to 4 Attune with Aether which, combined with Aether Hub means there's usually a little extra energy left over. Voltaic Brawler can help there, but even a single activation can be backbreaking because of the counter and blanking removal.

Samut, Voice of Dissent I'm not sold on because of the 5 cost. Running 22 lands and 4 Attune may change that, but I've been having trouble hitting all my colors of late so my primary focus is smoothing out the mana and then I can consider Samut with some sort of idea of consistency. The Hydra helps here because it pushes the deck more with the extra Forests helping the turn 1 Attune.

multimedia on Energy Elves

1 week ago

Hey Randsome, thanks for your feedback.

Rishkar, Peema Renegade and Aethersphere Harvester work together because both their abilities use the stack. Rishkar's ETB trigger and Harvester's crew activated ability both go on the stack. Crew is an activated ability. Once both abilities are on the stack I can choose what order they resolve. When a creature enters the battlefield it can be tapped to use another activated ability that requires a creature to be tapped such as crew. When Rishkar ETB before I resolve his trigger I can tap him to crew Harvester, the crew ability then also goes on the stack. Once both Rishkar's trigger and the crew of Harvester are on the stack I can order them to happen in any way I choose. Choosing to resolve the crew of Harvester on the stack first makes Harvester a creature. I can then resolve Rishkar's trigger second which lets me put a counter on Harvester since Harvester is now a creature.

The same thing happens with the stack when another Rishkar ETB when one is already on the battlefield. Both the legendary rule and Rishkar's ETB trigger go on the stack. I can choose which order I want them to happen. Choosing Rishkar's trigger first lets me put counters on other creatures even one of the Rishkars. Second I resolve the legendary rule which then kills one of my choice of Rishkar.

An updated Sultai Energy Elves list:


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