Lotus Petal

Lotus Petal

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, Sacrifice Lotus Petal: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

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Set Rarity
Mystery Booster (MYS1) Common
Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions (MPS) Mythic Rare
Tempest Remastered (TPR) Uncommon
From the Vault: Exiled (V09) Mythic Rare
Tempest (TMP) Common

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Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Highlander Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Lotus Petal occurrence in decks from the last year

Legacy:

All decks: 1.3%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.07%

Red: 0.16%

Blue: 0.17%

Golgari: 0.14%

UBR (Grixis): 0.49%

Lotus Petal Discussion

I_Want_To_PlayAllTheDecks on 12/12 creature on turn 3

2 days ago

Stifle makes it a 12/12 on turn two or one, if you have Lotus Petals

MosiacMessenger on Winota Cedh

4 days ago

There are 2 cards I would consider adding or at least worth thinking about:

Sevinne's Reclamation - Sees some cEDH play already and with good reason.

Treasure Nabber - Bit of spicy tech here but can really ramp you with all the fast mana at a normal cEDH table. Also comes down before Winota and can trigger her ability (being a non-human creature).

Other considerations would be the normal cEDH fast mana. Namely:

Arcane Signet - Chrome Mox - Grim Monolith - Lotus Petal - Mox Diamond - Mox Opal

Keep up the good work!

Murphy77 on Brian Stacks' Brain Freeze C/U

5 days ago

I like the idea, High Tide seems a bit out of place as you will tend to play out your hand early. In it's place, something like Portal of Sanctuary could flicker your Venture Deeper into Merfolk Secretkeeper on each of your turns (multiples would also work).

I would want a bit of protection in the form of Turn Aside or Keep Safe. A fourth Snap would usually be stronger than one Lotus Petal.

DespairFaction on Combat as a Resource (Aurelia Warleader)

6 days ago

Hey its Commander Replay. I played about 7 games with the deck between your version and mine so ill share my analysis of everything. Ill start with the more general stuff, and then ill dig into card specifics.

First off the hate bear plan worked great against U/x combo decks. Had their combo lines covered early and easily. On the other hand I faced blood pod several times and that seems to be a pretty bad matchup. They have a ton of answers, and with Elesh Norn at the top end its just destroys this deck. It felt like they are doing the same thing but just way better cause of Gaea's cradle and green black tutors so that wasnt amazing. I had a chance to beat it in one game but missed some land drops and drew all the swords with the giant in play, and null rod down. Had i not drawn sinew and steel could have shot the null rod, reequipped jitte, and killed the kataki that followed. I also assume that any deck that is good against blood pod, will also be good against this list. Pyroclasm is real scary.

So the single biggest problem with this deck right now, and the single biggest opportunity for improvement is mana production. You are running very little fast mana and the land count was super low. This list was running 29 and your updated on moxfield was running 30. Both conceptually and in practice, this deck isn't going to win the game on 4 mana...its not flash hulk or consultation. So i think its begging for more lands. I was able to get my list to 31 lands but honestly I think 33 or 34 or would better. Again, this list isn't winning with 3 lands.

Following the land problem there is also not enough fast mana, and things to do with 1 mana. I noticed I was getting log jammed with 2 and 3 drops and was giving away a lot of precious time. And this sort of plays into mana curve issues as well, definitely need to trim back on the 4 drops. I was able to get down to 10, and as I mentioned Id still like to go lower.

So in short the curve was high, and the deck is mana hungry.

Two other smaller problems that I didn't elect to fix since they are matchup specific, but can be solved with a few card changes. Not a lot of removal for creatures. Again, soft to blood pod. Also no main deck pyroblast, REB and Angel's grace type stuff to prevent losing on the spot. Would like to see some answers main deck.

So here are the changes I made. I won't go through all the cuts, but ill mention the big ones. A few things were cut simply for deck space so I won't worry about those.

Out:

  • Helm of the host - deck isn't producing enough mana to get anywhere close to equipping this. Plus a huge blow out to instant speed interaction.
  • Stonehewer looks like the only possible path to victory with this.
  • Ruination - a worse armageddon. switch to static orb. its more abuseable.
  • Decree of Annhilation - high cost. but i think it could return due its hard to counter nature. went with static orb in place. the orb effects are more abusable IMO.
  • Elspeth - not enough impact at 4
  • Karn - bad card draw, slow. would rather just pay 1 to get some extra lands.
  • Aurelia Exemplar - I cut this one, but it might be worth brining back. I may have cut too much damage from the deck.
  • Angel of Jubilition - lot of good abilities, cut for deck slots. might return.
  • coalition relic - turn this into fast mana.
  • thrill of possibility - we can better than this.
  • faithless looting - I'm not a huge fan, but i know people like it.
  • glorybringer - this one may need to come back with better mana production. more damage and creature removal.

Must Adds: Ok here are the cards that I think are must adds for the deck to compete in the competitive space. - Land Tax - find your lands. card advantage.

  • Tithe - find your lands. card advantage

  • Springleaf Drum - this is fast mana in a deck like this.

  • Chrome Mox fast mana, but card advantage problem. be sure to balance with draw.

  • Curse of Opulence - more turn 1 plays and fast mana.

  • Feast and Famine - bring this in from the Sb, its the best sword by a large margin. it also opens up combos with aggravated assault, and neheb.

  • Mox Diamond - if you have the $$, MTGO, or proxies legal.

  • Sword of the Animist - the ramp is very good, and the +1/+1 is relevant.

  • Smothering Tithe - broken cards are broken.

Other fast mana worth considering:

Card advantage tricks:

I still need to do some work in this area. Tectonic Giant needs more testing, but could consider Prophetic Flamespeaker instead. Its great with swords and you get both cards as opposed to always exiling one. no damage mode tho.

Win Conditions and Lock outs:

So this is where my deck was maybe a little thin, and Ill need to test a bit.

  • As mentioned I took Helm out because I just don't think its ever going to happen on the current mana production (but maybe if we figure out some mana tricks) so instead I went for Neheb, the Eternal Sword of Feast and Famine and Aggravated Assault. This is a favorite of mine, all 3 pieces are great on their own and game winning when together.

  • Winota, Joiner of Forces ridiculous with aurelia. Free creatures.

  • Winter Orb and Static Orb with Blinkmoth Well ghirapur aethergrid Sword of Feast and Famine and either Neheb. One sided mana production. Use Goblin Engineer to find any of the artifact pieces of the this combo, as well as sword recursion or shenanigans with the orbs.

  • Planar Chaos this is pet lock piece that I've been testing out. Haven't resolved it yet, but i can't imagine anyone is going to cast much into it.

  • Ive been strongly considering Possibility Storm with all of the rule of law type effects as an additional source of lock. You can still cast your commander, and generally that should win the game.

  • Helm of Possession is a fun trick I've used in some decks. good against decks where they really need their commander.

Miscellaneous Thoughts:

Given the absurd mana hunger of this deck I realized a massive difference in games with dockside extortionist and games without. That led me to thinking about more ways to get dockside extortionist. There are the 2 main recruiters, but I think goblin recruiter is worth looking at because you can put dockside on top, then kiki-jiki right beneath and copy it the following turn or anything else that might make sense (plus aurelia's untap)

testing out Crovax, Ascendant Hero this is to hose blood pod and green mana dorks. basically a second elesh norn. If the deck gets good at locking stuff or producing crazy mana, could look at Thalia's Lancers into Elesh Norn.

All of the 4 drops in my list require significant testing, feel free to cut any of them.

You should add Mikokoro to the main deck. Its solid.

Adriana, Captain of the Guard warrants testing. again for blood pod and other green decks...makes your team huge.

If mana production is good enough to warrant the return of Helm, also add Godo, Bandit Warlord for the additional tutoring and redundancy. Hammer of Nazahn is also pretty real. Could also consider cloud shift and ephemerate as protection and blink to further this combo.

Reanimation is needed. Could be a lot of things. Reveillark, Sword of Light and Shadow that one ajani, and Sevinne's Reclamation all come to mind.

Tylord2894 on How does Underworld Breach and ...

1 week ago

Reading the next sentence in that rule should answer your question. The excerpt that you pointed out is saying that you may begin casting the spell, so you can proceed through the first handful of steps of casting Lotus Petal. However, once you get to the spell-casting step where you need to pay costs, you'll be trying to pay something that is unpayable. At that point, the game has to rewind back to when you began casting the spell because you are trying to do the impossible (pay the unpayable).

In short, it is a legal action start casting a spell with an unpayable cost, but you will quickly run into issues.

sageh90 on Have: masterwork kaladesh edh/judge promo ...

1 week ago

hello im looking to trade a couple of masterwork edh staples for a bazaar of baghdad.

HAVE: MASTERWORK KALADESH Lotus Petal, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Scroll Rack and Aether Vial. Judge promo: Enlightened Tutor, Sol Ring, Land Tax

WANT: Bazaar of Baghdad. i wouldnt mind it being HP i just need it playable and eligible. if its in good condition im willing to discuss adding extra to the trade.

Enral on ⟳ Deckcycle | Gavi Primer

2 weeks ago

Notherwizard: Hi, you can replace drake with Agent of Treachery and crypt with Lotus Petal.

Brogan54 on Oloro, Ageless Ascetic

2 weeks ago

My recommendations :

I think most people will tell you that Oloro offers little competitive advantage to you compared to other esper commander like Zur (who can fetch Necropotence into play) or even Aminatou (who is a combo piece in the command zone). I think upsides for Oloro would be that he can do larger ad nauseam and possibly can even run Humility which few decks can win while it is on the board.

LOW IMPACT:

Teferi's Protection

Rhox Faithmender

Debt to the Deathless

Despark

MANA COST TOO HIGH

Merciless Eviction

Anguished Unmaking

Disallow

Thran Dynamo

TOO SLOW

Mox Tantalite

Phyrexian Arena

Twilight Prophet

Crypt Ghast

Winds of Abandon

Vindicate

Search for Azcanta  Flip

I would first add better ramp, better draw, potential Stax, tutors and then other win cons.

RAMP

Dark Ritual

Fellwar Stone

Mox Diamond

Talisman of Hierarchy

Talisman of Progress

Copy Artifact

Mox Opal

Cabal Ritual

Grim Monolith

Lotus Petal

Dramatic Reversal

DRAW

Ad Nauseam

Night's Whisper

Windfall

Timetwister

Whispering Madness

Brainstorm

Ponder

Preordain

Verity Circle (good against dorks)

Plunge into Darkness (a good Impulse)

Mindblade Render

Sygg, River Cutthroat

STAX

Drannith Magistrate

Aven Mindcensor

Cursed Totem

Notion Thief

Humility

Blind Obedience

Rest in Peace

Torpor Orb

BETTER COUNTERSPELLS

Mental Misstep

Dispel

Flusterstorm

Delay

Spell Pierce

Spell Snare

Negate

Tale's End

BETTER REMOVAL

Chain of Vapor

Gilded Drake

Yahenni's Expertise

Into the Roil

Blink of an Eye

TUTORS

Vampiric Tutor

Imperial Seal

Transmute Artifact

Intuition

Whir of Invention

Praetor's Grasp

Spellseeker

Academy Rector

OTHER COMBOS

CONSULT COMBO Demonic Consultation

Tainted Pact

Jace, Wielder of Mysteries

Laboratory Maniac

AD NAUSEAM COMBO Angel's Grace

Ad Nauseam (draw whole deck, can Windfall and make everyone die while AG means you can't lose

Helm of Obedience

Rest in Peace / Leyline of the Void

Heliod Walking Ballista

Approach of the Second Sun

Dramatic Scepter

Isochron Scepter

Rocks that produce at least three mana total (outlet is extort with blind obedience or crypt ghast) If have pristine Talisman gain infinite life, which is infinite draw with commander

Didn't look at landbase

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